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Kevin B · #7851 Post by **Kevin B** » January 6th, 2021, 3:15 am

Got the text after my bedtime. Figured I'd wait until morning and see if it was still available. Got too much now that needs more time, and at my age that might not be a good thing!

#7852 Post by **John O'** » January 6th, 2021, 3:17 am

haven't bought in a while and missed this offer last night. My initial negative was that this was "only" a blending wine. After reading above, I would have gone for it and will if re-offered.

#7853 Post by **Mike R** » January 6th, 2021, 6:17 am

After swearing off any more private label wines I came dangerously close to buying this, but ultimately resisted. Dry January is getting to me and its only been 5 days!

#7854 Post by **Mike R** » January 6th, 2021, 7:34 am

Chr!s G|@rn3r wrote: ↑January 5th, 2021, 7:07 pm I think #107 lines up well with Goosecross's "Petit Petite". $95, 50% Petite Sirah, 50% Syrah, 100% New French Oak. Many of the tasting notes line up. The winery sits on State Lane road right by Kapscandy and Cliff Lede. The only thing that doesn't line up is Cam said this Petite comes from their estate vineyard, whereas the 2016 bottling shows that the petite sirah came from Nord Ridge which is in St. Helena, not Yountville. However, with the 2018 surplus, they may have used their own for this vintage only. Or it was a typo. Just a guess, and in for a case either at $15/btl. and don't care either way!

https://goosecross.com/shop/?view=produ ... t%20Petite

Ironically just got an email offer for Goosecross's cab at a fairly large discount... good guess I think:

https://www.vivino.com/goosecross-cella ... /w/7103850?

#7855 Post by **Nick F.** » January 6th, 2021, 9:12 am

whats the offer? Lnk doesnt pop in for me?

#7856 Post by **Mike R** » January 6th, 2021, 9:13 am

Nick F. wrote: ↑January 6th, 2021, 9:12 am whats the offer? Lnk doesnt pop in for me?

Their Cab is being offered for $49.99 rather than the "suggested" price of $95.00. If the link works, it should show the price.

#7857 Post by **Nick F.** » January 6th, 2021, 9:29 am

January 7th, 2021, 11:41 am

OG N.89 2018 Walla Walla Cabernet Sauvignon SHIPS LATE FEBRUARY
Price$120.00

https://www.denegoce.com/products/og-n- ... e-february

This is a stunning value, an estate-produced, no-expense-spared, top-of-the-line Walla Walla Reserve Cabernet Sauvignon that retails out of the tasting room for over $60/bottle. Its classically styled with pitch-perfect extraction and balance, deftly made by an excellent winemaker in a state-of-the-art facility. At $10/bottle, its an incredible offer.

Deep ruby in the glass. Beautifully aromatic already with meaty black cherry, dusty plum, dark earth, spice and leather leather notes. Entry is broad and supple leading to a mouthful of ripe cherry and plum notes warmly layered on juicy, mouthwatering tannins. The finish is long and smooth, redolent with fruit but never overbearing - fantastic mouthfeel. Like I said, this is deftly crafted stuff with excellent complexity. A total steal at $10/bottle, $120/case.

84% Cabernet, 11% Malbec, 5% Syrah, 100% Estate
34% new French oak
Bottling January 28th, 2020
14.7% alc.
500 cases available

#7859 Post by **MatthewT** » January 7th, 2021, 11:44 am

lol @ people being "heartbroken" for missing the Petit Syrah hahaha

dN89 sounds fantastic and a very good price point but I'm on buyers strike.

January 7th, 2021, 11:48 am

Any guesses who the producer is? Odd that there is a decently large production for a “reserve” cab but no critic scores?

#7861 Post by **Rodrigo B** » January 7th, 2021, 11:49 am

I'm pretty filled with dN wines now. Only thing that may attract me is if there is any OR wines

January 7th, 2021, 11:49 am

I pulled the trigger. Only discovered his offerings, thanks to this forum, in early December. Now patiently waiting for 3 different cases. Was trying to stay focused on BD but that hasn't happened...

#7863 Post by **tpetty** » January 7th, 2021, 11:53 am

I ordered a case too. It sounds like this is precisely the winery's non-modified, reserve estate cab. For $10 a bottle it's worth a shot. It can join my other dozen De Negoce cases of cab.

rsmithjr · #7864 Post by **rsmithjr** » January 7th, 2021, 12:12 pm

Bottling 2020 or 2021? I think 2021...

#7865 Post by **MatthewT** » January 7th, 2021, 12:24 pm

rsmithjr wrote: ↑January 7th, 2021, 12:12 pm Bottling 2020 or 2021? I think 2021...

Yes, just a typo I'd think. Says bottling not BOTTLED.

January 7th, 2021, 12:46 pm

So much for "de negoce fatigue". Sold through 500 cases in less than an hour.

#7867 Post by **Brandon R** » January 7th, 2021, 12:53 pm

I haven't bought in a long time and bought a case of this WW Cab. I drink mostly WA reds and, if this is even remotely better than what $10 otherwise buys me for a WA State Cab, I'm all about it.

Waterbrook, maybe? Although, no, I don't think they have an estate vineyard. Woodward Canyon does an Estate Reserve, but it's usually more than $70 I think. Hmm...

Kevin B · #7868 Post by **Kevin B** » January 7th, 2021, 4:25 pm

Well, I made it a week without buying wine I have no room for. I'm just afraid that the 5 or so cases of DN I have on order will all get here at the same time.

#7869 Post by **C. Heinsen** » January 7th, 2021, 4:29 pm

No 87 Petite Verdot drop

This is a small little winemaker project lot sourced from the same winery in Walla Walla as the N.89 Cabernet I just released.

From a single vineyard in Horse Heaven Hills (McKinley Springs Vineyard), this Petite Verdot was raised in 28% new French oak and was intended to be the the inaugural release of this "tasting room only" selection. Other Bordelais varieties from this particular vineyard and produced by this winery sell for $50/bottle out of the tasting room so that seems a fair price comparison (I should add virtually every wine is "tasting room only" for this producer). Only 275 cases available and priced at a ridiculous $9/bottle, $108/case.

Deep ruby, just a shade darker than the Walla Walla Cabernet Sauvignon. True to the Horse Heaven Hills appellation, its opens with red fruits and gains weight, accessing the darker fruit as it opens up. Cherry and raspberry add a layer of plum and graphite with pretty powdered flower aromas coming to the fore. Wonderfully supple and smooth on entry with ripe, juicy, energetic fruit well integrated with almost unnoticeable tannins. Plush? Yes. Nevertheless, the structure is there and carries a long, resounding finish with good length. A unique offering with excellent complexity (winemakers hallmark in my opinion - always striving for balance and complexity), this is also a great everyday drinker and cellar defender and will be very approachable once its through bottle shock. Bottled 12/15, this wine should be drinking nicely for March.

83% Petite Verdot, 17% Cabernet Sauvignon - 100% Horse Heaven Hills McKinley Vineyard
28% new French oak
14.9% alc.
Bottled December 15, 2020 (arriving this week, should ship out week of Jan. 25th)
275 cases available

Brian_K · #7870 Post by **Brian_K** » January 7th, 2021, 4:39 pm

C. Heinsen wrote: ↑January 7th, 2021, 4:29 pm No 87 Petite Verdot drop

This is a small little winemaker project lot sourced from the same winery in Walla Walla as the N.89 Cabernet I just released.

From a single vineyard in Horse Heaven Hills (McKinley Springs Vineyard), this Petite Verdot was raised in 28% new French oak and was intended to be the the inaugural release of this "tasting room only" selection. Other Bordelais varieties from this particular vineyard and produced by this winery sell for $50/bottle out of the tasting room so that seems a fair price comparison (I should add virtually every wine is "tasting room only" for this producer). Only 275 cases available and priced at a ridiculous $9/bottle, $108/case.

Deep ruby, just a shade darker than the Walla Walla Cabernet Sauvignon. True to the Horse Heaven Hills appellation, its opens with red fruits and gains weight, accessing the darker fruit as it opens up. Cherry and raspberry add a layer of plum and graphite with pretty powdered flower aromas coming to the fore. Wonderfully supple and smooth on entry with ripe, juicy, energetic fruit well integrated with almost unnoticeable tannins. Plush? Yes. Nevertheless, the structure is there and carries a long, resounding finish with good length. A unique offering with excellent complexity (winemakers hallmark in my opinion - always striving for balance and complexity), this is also a great everyday drinker and cellar defender and will be very approachable once its through bottle shock. Bottled 12/15, this wine should be drinking nicely for March.

83% Petite Verdot, 17% Cabernet Sauvignon - 100% Horse Heaven Hills McKinley Vineyard
28% new French oak
14.9% alc.
Bottled December 15, 2020 (arriving this week, should ship out week of Jan. 25th)
275 cases available

Did this only go out to a subset of the list? Never saw the email......

J. Patrick Lynch · January 7th, 2021, 5:38 pm

Brian_K wrote: ↑January 7th, 2021, 4:39 pm
Did this only go out to a subset of the list? Never saw the email......

Feels like a shadow release. Probably an email coming out soon.

There have been a few in the past, but not so much lately.

#7872 Post by **C. Heinsen** » January 7th, 2021, 5:43 pm

Just happen to see it on website...

#7873 Post by **John O'** » January 8th, 2021, 2:14 am

Missed the Petite Sirah (again). The Petite Verdot is a nice consolation prize. Not easy to find and wifey is a big fan of the varietal.

#7874 Post by **tpetty** » January 8th, 2021, 8:10 am

Still available on the website

VidaF · #7875 Post by **VidaF** » January 8th, 2021, 10:56 am

John O' wrote: ↑January 8th, 2021, 2:14 am Missed the Petite Syrah (again). The Petite Verdot is a nice consolation prize. Not easy to find and wifey is a big fan of the varietal.

The Petite Syrah is back on the website, at least for now. Just ordered it

#7876 Post by **Mike R** » January 8th, 2021, 11:12 am

I have no idea what came over me but I just ordered the Petit Verdot. No idea what I was thinking or what I'm going to do with 12 bottles of a blending wine.

J. Patrick Lynch · January 8th, 2021, 1:08 pm

Petit not petite. Come on Cam!

And the sticker on the last Petite Sirah box said Petite Syrah, but the bottles were labeled correctly.

I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

#7878 Post by **tpetty** » January 8th, 2021, 2:06 pm

150 case of Oregon syrah just went up.

only 90 cases left

January 8th, 2021, 2:10 pm

Ugh. I'm tempted because I bought #74 but too much wine. And of course if I don't like #74 I likely wouldn't like this either.

https://www.denegoce.com/products/og-n- ... e-february

OG N.99 Rocks District/Walla Walla Syrah is the Reserve Syrah offering from the same winery as N.74 Walla Walla Syrah. The source vineyard is an estate property in The Rocks District of Milton Freewater. As the vineyard lies on the Oregon side of the Rocks appellation and we bottled the wine in Washington, we were unable to use "The Rocks District of Milton Freewater" on the label. I have no idea why this is, but it is. Rest assured, however, this Syrah is a single-vineyard-designate from the "Rocks" AVA (the label will say Walla Walla).

But enough bureaucratic hogwash, lets talk about the wine. This is fantastic juice, rich and ripe with an unctuous mouthfeel but supported by a brawny, chiseled structure that provides for depth and dimension. Retailing for over $50/bottle out of the winery tasting room, it's an exceptional deal at $12/bottle, $144/case. Only 150 cases are up for grabs.

Deep ruby to medium purple in the glass. Meaty aromas of blueberry, blackberry and smoky rock are topped with a kiss of acacia flower and underpinned with more smoky earth notes. The wine is broad and smooth on entry with an unctuous viscosity well supported by fine tannins. Blueberry and smoky chocolate ride to glory on a long, lip-smacking, umami-driven finish. The yum factor here is huge and its just about impossible to just have one glass.

100% Syrah, 100% estate vineyard in The Rocks District of Milton Freewater
50% new French and American oak
15.1% alc.
Bottled December 18th, 2020
150 cases available

#7880 Post by **PeterH** » January 8th, 2021, 2:22 pm

tpetty wrote: ↑January 8th, 2021, 2:06 pm 150 case of Oregon syrah just went up.

only 90 cases left

To be more precise, the Milton Freewater area of the Walla Walla AVA. Referred to as "occupied territory" by some., The Rocks by others.
From the description, sees more oak than most here appreciate, but I bet it is a crowd pleaser.

#7881 Post by **Albert R** » January 8th, 2021, 2:31 pm

My wife loves the Syrah from the Rocks! We are in. Less than 40 cases left. This wine will need some time in the cellar.......

T0ny Dr13r · #7882 Post by **T0ny Dr13r** » January 8th, 2021, 2:41 pm

I've been getting more and more interested in Syrah and had swore I was done with DN. Well I bought cause the price is right and the thought was L'Ecole although I don't see a reserve Syrah on their site.

Now I would love to see a Rhone blend offered

#7883 Post by **C. Heinsen** » January 8th, 2021, 2:53 pm

Any guesses as to what this is?

January 8th, 2021, 2:53 pm

This doesn't seem to be L'Ecole, which means that the L'Ecole guess for N.74 was wrong. Anybody else have any suggestions? There's maybe two dozen vineyards in the Rocks district.

Edit: I don't think this is explicitly labeled as a "Reserve" syrah, since looking on cellartracker I don't see any that would fit the bill for rocks district. Most likely it's just a single vineyard designate.

January 8th, 2021, 3:22 pm

The thing with Petite Verdot is it overwhelms the mid palate with tannins and dark fruit. Cloying to a point in many wines. I actually detected an overwhelming PV component in OG 17 at the moment- see why Cam says it's a good steak wine- that PV is supplying tannins for red meat pairing.
Happy Friday all. Cheers.

January 8th, 2021, 3:26 pm

Petit Verdot is really a blending wine. We use it in a bunch of our Bordeaux style blends and it works well. On its own, it’s a little monolithic.

Chris Echeck · January 8th, 2021, 3:55 pm

I remember 74 being possibly cougar crest ??

#7888 Post by **L Harris** » January 8th, 2021, 4:05 pm

Chris Echeck wrote: ↑January 8th, 2021, 3:55 pm I remember 74 being possibly cougar crest ??

Seems like a really good call. They have a Syrah at $30 ish (N.74) and one at $55 which is a reserve Syrah. They also own a Rocks district vineyard.
https://www.cougarcrestwinery.com/shop/ ... rve-syrah/

Nice call Chris and whomever might have originally guessed that for N.74.

rsmithjr · #7889 Post by **rsmithjr** » January 9th, 2021, 2:15 pm

Just got shipping notices on the last 2 wines I had NOT received. I had sent an inquiry earlier, no response but the shipping notices friday night.

#3 and # 8 (second tranche).

#7890 Post by **Alan Newman** » January 9th, 2021, 4:52 pm

Alan Newman wrote: ↑January 4th, 2021, 11:40 am I'm still missing #4 Merlot. Waiting to hear back from "Shipping".

Now, I'm annoyed.

12/27: Emailed Support: Any news on my order of Merlot #4? [Ordered on 5/25/20]
12/31: Support Responded: I'll check with Shipping on Monday [1/4] and get back to you.
1/6: Emailed Support: Any update?
No response.

I actually don't mind if they cancel my order and refund my money, but no response is bad customer service. I should not have to ask twice.

#7891 Post by **Mike R** » January 9th, 2021, 5:40 pm

Alan Newman wrote: ↑January 9th, 2021, 4:52 pm
Alan Newman wrote: ↑January 4th, 2021, 11:40 am I'm still missing #4 Merlot. Waiting to hear back from "Shipping".
Now, I'm annoyed.

12/27: Emailed Support: Any news on my order of Merlot #4? [Ordered on 5/25/20]
12/31: Support Responded: I'll check with Shipping on Monday [1/4] and get back to you.
1/6: Emailed Support: Any update?
No response.

I actually don't mind if they cancel my order and refund my money, but no response is bad customer service. I should not have to ask twice.

I find this exceptionally annoying and I see this issue all the time with DN. I know they are a small scrappy startup, but nothing tells me that a business doesn't care about their customers like not responding to emails.

January 10th, 2021, 8:32 am

Need more evidence 74 and 99 are Cougar Crest...

https://www.cougarcrestwinery.com/viney ... -vineyard/

Purchased the 74 Syrah and look forward to trying it later this summer.

<hr!s.L · #7893 Post by **<hr!s.L** » January 10th, 2021, 3:06 pm

Timothy B a l l a r d wrote: ↑January 10th, 2021, 8:32 am Need more evidence 74 and 99 are Cougar Crest...

Points for Cougar Crest as the source:
- Walla Walla Washington based winery with an estate vineyard in The Rocks District
- CC offer a Syrah and Reserve Syrah that loosely match the price points ($34 and $55) of 74 and 99
- This particular wine has been available at a hefty discount before, somewhat recently. In 2019 there was a casemates offer for Cougar Crest Reserve Syrah 2013/2014 split case for $199 plus shipping ($16.67/bottle pre-shipping).
- The CM offer revealed the reserve Syrah is a vineyard designate bottling (Noble Rock Vineyard, The Rocks District of Milton Freewater)
- Lastly, there are similar tasting notes:

Tasting notes from the CM offer
“... Blueberry, blackberry, soy and earthy truffles flood the senses. Rich viscosity and fine-grained tannins coat the palate wrapping smoky arms around a long powerful finish.”

Tasting notes from DN offer, n.99
“...Meaty aromas of blueberry, blackberry and smoky rock...with an unctuous viscosity well supported by fine tannins. Blueberry and smoky chocolate ride to glory on a long, lip-smacking, umami-driven finish.”

https://casemates.com/forum/topics/coug ... erve-syrah

#7894 Post by **Evan Tunis** » January 11th, 2021, 3:10 pm

Mike R wrote: ↑January 9th, 2021, 5:40 pm
Alan Newman wrote: ↑January 9th, 2021, 4:52 pm
Alan Newman wrote: ↑January 4th, 2021, 11:40 am I'm still missing #4 Merlot. Waiting to hear back from "Shipping".
Now, I'm annoyed.

12/27: Emailed Support: Any news on my order of Merlot #4? [Ordered on 5/25/20]
12/31: Support Responded: I'll check with Shipping on Monday [1/4] and get back to you.
1/6: Emailed Support: Any update?
No response.

I actually don't mind if they cancel my order and refund my money, but no response is bad customer service. I should not have to ask twice.
I find this exceptionally annoying and I see this issue all the time with DN. I know they are a small scrappy startup, but nothing tells me that a business doesn't care about their customers like not responding to emails.

I received 4/5 of my orders in November/late December except #42. Finally emailed them asking where this was. Waited five days and then they refunded my order saying they were out of stock. What a bunch of crap..

Nicholas C · #7895 Post by **Nicholas C** » January 11th, 2021, 3:32 pm

Evan Tunis wrote: ↑January 11th, 2021, 3:10 pm
Mike R wrote: ↑January 9th, 2021, 5:40 pm
Alan Newman wrote: ↑January 9th, 2021, 4:52 pm

Now, I'm annoyed.

12/27: Emailed Support: Any news on my order of Merlot #4? [Ordered on 5/25/20]
12/31: Support Responded: I'll check with Shipping on Monday [1/4] and get back to you.
1/6: Emailed Support: Any update?
No response.

I actually don't mind if they cancel my order and refund my money, but no response is bad customer service. I should not have to ask twice.
I find this exceptionally annoying and I see this issue all the time with DN. I know they are a small scrappy startup, but nothing tells me that a business doesn't care about their customers like not responding to emails.
I received 4/5 of my orders in November/late December except #42. Finally emailed them asking where this was. Waited five days and then they refunded my order saying they were out of stock. What a bunch of crap..

Hmm, just emailed them. Only 3 of my 9 orders have been delivered so far. Not good to hear that they are out of stock on some of the wines!

#7896 Post by **L Harris** » January 11th, 2021, 3:58 pm

New 2018 Napa Cab out

https://www.denegoce.com/products/og-n- ... 0877&_ss=r

#7897 Post by **Eric White** » January 11th, 2021, 4:27 pm

lol, the excitement is palpable

. Seriously though, I think I'm pretty full up with these particular types of offers at the moment. However, it did cause me to go look at my spreadsheet and discover that in just the wines I've purchased, "Alluvial" shows up five times

Kevin B · #7898 Post by **Kevin B** » January 11th, 2021, 4:54 pm

I got the Walla Walla Cab, and the Petit Verdot. Still waiting on a bunch I bought months ago that should be shipping soon. I'll pass, but I'm interested in seeing how fast 800 cases go.

Bruce Johnson · January 11th, 2021, 5:07 pm

I'm new here and pretty new to wine. I just bought the de Negoce 76. Any guesses as to the vineyards involved?
--Bruce

January 11th, 2021, 6:39 pm

There’s a bunch of Cameron Hughes wines on Winebid.com.