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#101 Post by Steve Saxon » March 18th, 2020, 8:27 pm

Drank a 90 Krug and a 90 Margaux last night.......I have a new baby granddaughter!
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#102 Post by Jerry Hey » March 18th, 2020, 8:58 pm

2014 Caroline Morey (Pierre-Yves’ wife) Chassagne Montrachet Chaumees tonight. Killer, but a bit different flavor profile than the PYCM wines.

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#103 Post by Jeremy C » March 18th, 2020, 8:59 pm

Steve Saxon wrote:
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Drank a 90 Krug and a 90 Margaux last night.......I have a new baby granddaughter!
Congrats!
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#104 Post by Mike Maguire » March 18th, 2020, 9:07 pm

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Nice choice Robert.

I am going to grab a very good Champagne this weekend. Laura and I have been anxiously waiting to celebrate my all clear diagnosis.
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#105 Post by Mike Maguire » March 18th, 2020, 9:20 pm

Mark Y wrote:
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John Davis wrote:
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2002 Monte Bello in decanter and a pot roast in the oven.
would love a TN. just picked up a bottle 3 days ago of that 02
I have a few magnums of MB, I’ll check in the morning to see which vintages, I remember the 01 a couple years ago being epic.

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#106 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 19th, 2020, 12:02 am

JDavisRoby wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 8:22 pm
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So how was your "precious one" (Gollum voice!)? The cork and the colour looked ok so I'm guessing it was a good one!
Gollum indeed!

Reticent even after some decanting, got better as the night ended with my 3rd glass, and now 24 hours later, really excellent. Amazing how BAMA takes so much air to come alive. Love the florals, dried red fruits and acid on this wine. Refreshing, quaffable. Not at levels of 2000, 1996, 1995, but damn fine in its own right Your style, my British friend! (91 pts.)
How does one get some BAMA?

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#107 Post by Scott Brunson » March 19th, 2020, 4:33 am

Jeremy C wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 8:59 pm
Steve Saxon wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 8:27 pm
Drank a 90 Krug and a 90 Margaux last night.......I have a new baby granddaughter!
Congrats!
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#108 Post by Br1an Th0rne » March 19th, 2020, 5:48 am

Steve Saxon wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 8:27 pm
Drank a 90 Krug and a 90 Margaux last night.......I have a new baby granddaughter!
Congratulations! [cheers.gif]

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#109 Post by Sjmotta » March 19th, 2020, 1:48 pm

2006 Clos St. Jean Deus ex Machina, a little high end with a rustic but delicious cassoulet from d'Artagnan. Great match, and the 2006 was surprisingly fresh.
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#110 Post by John Glas » March 19th, 2020, 2:31 pm

2010 Paloma Merlot because I expected it to be at or near peak. Maybe a little past but very nice at pop n pour. No reason to hold. Drink up
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#111 Post by Chris Seiber » March 19th, 2020, 2:42 pm

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A friend coming over tomorrow, and we're planning to open 2001 Ausone and 2001 Insignia. I'll report back.
Ausone was horribly corked. That really sucked.

However, the Insignia was epic. By far the best Insignia I’ve had. Balanced, lots of fruit, great minty note. Really hit it at the perfect moment, an upper 90s type wine.

We also had 08 Fevre Valmur, which was very good. Medium gold but no oxidation, huge blast of ripe lemon, lemon curd, and white spice on the finish. If you have these, drink up this year, I’d say.

Because of the corked Ausone, my friend pulled out a 95 Cos d”Estournel. A very good wine, reflecting the cool and stern 95 vintage. It probably is a decade plus a medium length decant away from hitting its peak.

Lastly, we had a 2002 Marquis Philips Integrity. Probably a 100-ish point Parker wine. 16% alcohol on the label. This wine is basically all alcohol at this point. The nose smells like a disinfecting product - you don’t even smell any fruit. The palate is also dominated by alcohol, mixed with some simple pruney fruit. Probably fun a decade ago, but not even worth drinking now.
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#112 Post by Eric Ifune » March 19th, 2020, 3:45 pm

Not particularly prized nor precious, but something good, so an 1834 Barbeito Malvasia.

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#113 Post by Ian H » March 19th, 2020, 4:02 pm

Not the most precious bottle but better than my average Thursday night. Opened a 1996 Louis Jadot Clos Vougeot. Very pretty and complex nose. Well structured with considerable acidity. Lots of years left.
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#114 Post by Jeff Vaughan » March 20th, 2020, 5:38 am

Steve Saxon wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 8:27 pm
Drank a 90 Krug and a 90 Margaux last night.......I have a new baby granddaughter!

Congrats! I've not had older Champagne. Do they retain the bubbles at that age, or is it more like a still wine?
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#115 Post by William Kelley » March 20th, 2020, 11:46 pm

Jeff Vaughan wrote:
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Congrats! I've not had older Champagne. Do they retain the bubbles at that age, or is it more like a still wine?
Well stored 1990 vintage Champagne should still have plenty of mousse. Over time, it does dissipate but I've had original disgorgements from the '60s and '50s with a healthy pinpoint mousse and even wines from the '40s with a more-than-vestigal mousse. There are differing schools of thought as to how important it is, with some lovers of old Champagne caring little about the bubbles, but to me it's an important part of the wines as they were intended to be, and I do enjoy older Champagne that retains its mousse much more than when it's gone flat. Closure integrity and storage conditions are the key variables, but you can maximize what mousse there is by service: for older Champagne, I use the quite small Zalto white wine glasses (spotlessly clean) and serve the wine colder than any other wines I drink (though of course not numbingly so), so it de-gasses more slowly.
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#116 Post by Mark Golodetz » March 21st, 2020, 8:01 am

William Kelley wrote:
March 20th, 2020, 11:46 pm
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Congrats! I've not had older Champagne. Do they retain the bubbles at that age, or is it more like a still wine?
Well stored 1990 vintage Champagne should still have plenty of mousse. Over time, it does dissipate but I've had original disgorgements from the '60s and '50s with a healthy pinpoint mousse and even wines from the '40s with a more-than-vestigal mousse. There are differing schools of thought as to how important it is, with some lovers of old Champagne caring little about the bubbles, but to me it's an important part of the wines as they were intended to be, and I do enjoy older Champagne that retains its mousse much more than when it's gone flat. Closure integrity and storage conditions are the key variables, but you can maximize what mousse there is by service: for older Champagne, I use the quite small Zalto white wine glasses (spotlessly clean) and serve the wine colder than any other wines I drink (though of course not numbingly so), so it de-gasses more slowly.
If any of my suppliers has well stored twenty year old plus NV, I grab them and thank the gods. I have had incredible luck with a wide variety, and my favorite is Taittinger followed by Bollinger.

Only one I stay away from is Piper, which does not seem to last
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#117 Post by William Kelley » March 21st, 2020, 9:49 am

Mark Golodetz wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 8:01 am

If any of my suppliers has well stored twenty year old plus NV, I grab them and thank the gods. I have had incredible luck with a wide variety, and my favorite is Taittinger followed by Bollinger.

Only one I stay away from is Piper, which does not seem to last
Couldn't agree more! A top purchase a few years ago was a case of early 1970s Delamotte NV. It was so good it got to the point that all my remaining bottles were "reserved" by friends who I'd drunk one with.

Storage is clearly immensely important, though. I now only buy old Champagne from cellars in Northern France.
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#118 Post by Fred C » March 21st, 2020, 3:59 pm

  • 2016 Bernard Boisson-Vadot Meursault Les Grands Charrons - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Meursault (3/21/2020)
    Just as the 2013 white burgs turned the corner so may the 2016s...or it could just be the producer. Nice reduction on the nose with plenty of acid to balance out the rich fruit. Nothing tropical here. Very much Coche-like. The balance and length continued to improve over 2 hours. Simply superb.

    Synthetic cork. Doesn’t appear to be DIAM.
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#119 Post by Paul Miller » March 21st, 2020, 4:06 pm

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#120 Post by PaulMills » March 21st, 2020, 4:07 pm

We had planned a party for last weekend and since we had all of the food already prepped, we decided to go ahead and host it. Below is a write up I posted to the CT forum.

Last night we hosted a dinner party for eight. My sweet Dr C cooked everything and I just cleaned up. We consumed way too much wine, but it was oh so good.

To start we had a cheese and charcuterie plate:
2004 Henri Goutorbe

After being seated at the table, we had crab and two types of caviar on a creme freiche custard. The crab and caviar were overnighted from Maine.
2014 Gusbourne BdB

Then we moved on to a spring pea soup with bacon straws:
2013 Goodfellow Chardonnay, Richards Cuvee

Next up was the duck confit with carrots, beans, and potatoes in a phylo crust bowl:
2012 Antica Terra Antikythera pinot
1998 Ravenswood Teldeschi Zin

Beef tongue on Israeli couscous followed:
2015 MACDONALD
1992 Ravenswood Cabernet, Gregory vineyard

The next course was a salad with pomegranate seeds and dried honeycrisp apple thins:
2017 Saxum James Berry white

To finish we had peanut butter pie, one with an Oreo crust and one with graham cracker crust:
2001 Max Ferd Richter

I threw in a 2011 Guigal CdR and Grandfather Mtn pinot gris to make sure people were paying attention.

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#121 Post by Ed Steinway » March 21st, 2020, 5:07 pm

Steve Saxon wrote:
Drank a 90 Krug and a 90 Margaux last night.......I have a new baby granddaughter!
Congratulations, Steve!!

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#122 Post by Er€z _ L. » March 21st, 2020, 5:31 pm

Steve Saxon wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 8:27 pm
Drank a 90 Krug and a 90 Margaux last night.......I have a new baby granddaughter!
Mazal tov! [cheers.gif]
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#123 Post by alan weinberg » March 22nd, 2020, 8:21 am

96 Dom Oeno tonight

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#124 Post by Jeff D a v i e s » March 22nd, 2020, 8:48 am

Drank my sole bottle of 1985 Lynch Bages. Another purchase from a few years ago. Cork was soaked through and damp ... but the wine was excellent and even better after several hours in the decanter. Up there with the best wines I have had. Cheers

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#125 Post by Jay Miller » March 22nd, 2020, 3:29 pm

Had a quite beautiful 2016 Domaine Rollin Pernand Vergelesses rouge on Friday. Balanced, pure, a delight. Fruit profile was bordering on cranberry but not quite crossing into it.
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#126 Post by Rory K. » March 22nd, 2020, 3:47 pm

In the spirit of this thread, I cracked a 2009 Continuum I was given some years back. Delightful, loads of sweet tobacco and herbs. Way outside my comfort level in style and price point but zero regrets!
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#127 Post by Warren Taranow » March 23rd, 2020, 7:31 pm

"If the only prayer you ever uttered was thank you, it would suffice."
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#128 Post by alan weinberg » March 23rd, 2020, 7:45 pm

2000 Raveneau MdT. Spectacular.

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#129 Post by Shay_A » March 23rd, 2020, 9:06 pm

Rory K. wrote:
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In the spirit of this thread, I cracked a 2009 Continuum I was given some years back. Delightful, loads of sweet tobacco and herbs. Way outside my comfort level in style and price point but zero regrets!
I popped one of these last month...gorgeous wine! I’m a big fan of Continuum and I think this ‘09 is still on the upswing. Drinking beautifully now though.
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#130 Post by Bill Sweeney » March 24th, 2020, 5:34 am

Over past several nights an ‘82 Calon Segur, 2014 Rivers-Marie Joy Chard, and 2000 Dauvissat Preuses, notes posted separately. Last night was a 2008 Tabarrini Sagrantino which was surprisingly good for a $25 wine. Dark and powerful, but that unpleasant aggressiveness I often find in sagrantino had aged away.

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#131 Post by Mark Golodetz » March 24th, 2020, 4:53 pm

Tonight the 1991 Montus with the Veal Osso Buco.

Excellent color, perfect mature. Rustic as one would expect, but very full flavored. Liked this a lot. 93
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#132 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » March 24th, 2020, 5:09 pm

2010 Larmandier-Bernier Terre de Vertus-just delicious. I wish I still had more.
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#133 Post by Andrew M » March 25th, 2020, 3:00 pm

William Kelley wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 9:49 am
Mark Golodetz wrote:
March 21st, 2020, 8:01 am

If any of my suppliers has well stored twenty year old plus NV, I grab them and thank the gods. I have had incredible luck with a wide variety, and my favorite is Taittinger followed by Bollinger.

Only one I stay away from is Piper, which does not seem to last
Couldn't agree more! A top purchase a few years ago was a case of early 1970s Delamotte NV. It was so good it got to the point that all my remaining bottles were "reserved" by friends who I'd drunk one with.

Storage is clearly immensely important, though. I now only buy old Champagne from cellars in Northern France.
This post made me interested in burying some NVs for the long haul. Any particular characteristics that would lead them to age well? Dosage, base vintage, reserve proportion, alcohol level, large house vs. grower - any of these a factor?
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#134 Post by William Kelley » March 26th, 2020, 12:53 am

Andrew M wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 3:00 pm
This post made me interested in burying some NVs for the long haul. Any particular characteristics that would lead them to age well? Dosage, base vintage, reserve proportion, alcohol level, large house vs. grower - any of these a factor?
I think you're looking for serious raw materials and pretty incisive acids. Given how the big houses ramped up production over the years, and the softer style of contemporary Champagne in general (which goes hand in hand with lower dosage) there are perhaps fewer candidates for 15+ years interesting aging among NV Bruts than there might be been thirty years ago.

One you might look at stocking up on is the Lanson "Extra Age" Cuvée that is being phased out this year to simplify their portfolio. Taittinger's Prelude also.

I buy the Pol Roger white foil in magnum but more with a view to 8-10 years in the cellar than anything longer; perhaps I'm being unambitious. Roederer's Brut Premier definitely blossoms on cork, too.

The Jacquesson 73- series has a fine track record of developing very nicely in bottle.

Egly-Ouriet's VP also.

While lots of top grower wines are NV, as are some prestige cuvées such as Krug Grande Cuvée and Grande Siècle, that's not really what we're talking about here I guess.
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#135 Post by Chris Seiber » March 26th, 2020, 10:50 am

PaulMills wrote:
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#136 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 26th, 2020, 10:53 am

William Kelley wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 12:53 am
Andrew M wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 3:00 pm
This post made me interested in burying some NVs for the long haul. Any particular characteristics that would lead them to age well? Dosage, base vintage, reserve proportion, alcohol level, large house vs. grower - any of these a factor?
I think you're looking for serious raw materials and pretty incisive acids. Given how the big houses ramped up production over the years, and the softer style of contemporary Champagne in general (which goes hand in hand with lower dosage) there are perhaps fewer candidates for 15+ years interesting aging among NV Bruts than there might be been thirty years ago.

One you might look at stocking up on is the Lanson "Extra Age" Cuvée that is being phased out this year to simplify their portfolio. Taittinger's Prelude also.

I buy the Pol Roger white foil in magnum but more with a view to 8-10 years in the cellar than anything longer; perhaps I'm being unambitious. Roederer's Brut Premier definitely blossoms on cork, too.

The Jacquesson 73- series has a fine track record of developing very nicely in bottle.

Egly-Ouriet's VP also.

While lots of top grower wines are NV, as are some prestige cuvées such as Krug Grande Cuvée and Grande Siècle, that's not really what we're talking about here I guess.
Pierre Péters Cuvée de Reserve in magnum. It ages spectacularly well.
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#137 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 26th, 2020, 10:53 am

Only me drinking tonight, so I have a 1/2 bottle of 2002 Clos de Lambrays ready to go.
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#138 Post by Mark Golodetz » March 26th, 2020, 12:33 pm

Last night after some Piper Rare 2002, sipped a little Cognac. Interesting bottle. 700 ml from 1942, bottled by Harvey's the English outfit out of Bristol in 1973. Absolutely delicious.
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#139 Post by Todd F r e n c h » March 26th, 2020, 12:42 pm

Steve Saxon wrote:
March 18th, 2020, 8:27 pm
Drank a 90 Krug and a 90 Margaux last night.......I have a new baby granddaughter!
Congratulations!!!!!
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#140 Post by Frank Murray III » March 26th, 2020, 1:00 pm

Marcus Goodfellow wrote:
March 24th, 2020, 5:09 pm
2010 Larmandier-Bernier Terre de Vertus-just delicious. I wish I still had more.
Marcus, I have opened several of the 2012 and it's fantastic.
My best wines for 2020:
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2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
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#141 Post by edwardmilstein » March 27th, 2020, 7:10 am

Drank a stunning bottle of '78 Guigal La Landonne with a few of my kids last night to accompany 2 legs of baby lamb.Best lamb I've ever had, wine wasn't to shabby either.Always nice drinking with my kids .
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#142 Post by Joseph MR » March 27th, 2020, 9:54 am

2008 Trimbach Frédéric Émile- still young and tight when first opened. The palate became more saturated over
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#143 Post by Fred C » March 28th, 2020, 3:57 pm

Roast capon and 2017 Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet. These 2017s are delicious. Like 2014, haven’t had a bad one yet. Maybe not as perfect as the 2014 but I also can’t find any faults or over ripe notes.
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Re: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle

#144 Post by alan weinberg » March 28th, 2020, 6:08 pm

Joseph MR wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 9:54 am
2008 Trimbach Frédéric Émile- still young and tight when first opened. The palate became more saturated over
3-4 days.
4 days shows amazing restraint. Wow.

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#145 Post by Alex N » March 29th, 2020, 6:43 pm

1979 Mouton gifted to me some time ago. The original (very senior) owner stored it impeccably since it was purchased at release so this was a treat. The cork was in great condition but split at the base from my own mistake. Weirdest open ever. That 1/4" piece stayed put in the bottle, keeping the seal. I thought the entire cork was out and about 10 seconds later the bottle made a popping sound, and that piece flipped upright like a coin standing on it's side. Easily removed. No sediment in the glass so I didn't decant and frankly, this doesn't seem to need much air. Around 1-1.5 hr in was the sweet spot. Clear, medium body (light by most of today's standards), super low bricking, earth/wood/mineral/tea dominant, fruit is there but doesn't really want to come out and play, tannins are completely resolved. Enjoyed with some charcuterie since about 3:30pm, and there is 1 glass left. Would not hold this wine for anything other than a birth year or anniversary.
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Re: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle

#146 Post by Joseph MR » April 1st, 2020, 3:47 pm

2010 Mount Eden Vineyards Estate Cabernet Sauvignon - cedar and current notes, medium bodied, with mildly chewy tannins and slightly earthy finish. Mouthwatering acidity cuts through the fat of a ribeye. Somewhat fuller body on day two
Adds to the impression that this will last several years more.
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#147 Post by Nick Gangas » April 2nd, 2020, 2:05 pm

2010 Roulot Luchets. Had with Carry out from Shaws crab house. Absolutely delicious. In great shape.

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Re: Time to treat ourselves. Open a precious bottle

#148 Post by Mark Golodetz » April 2nd, 2020, 2:08 pm

My first bottle from a six bottle case of Cristal 2008. Young, tight, promising. Potentially extraordinary; now just very good.
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#149 Post by Nick Gangas » April 2nd, 2020, 2:11 pm

2010 Roulot Luchets. Had with Carry out from Shaws crab house. Absolutely delicious. In great shape.

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#150 Post by Joseph MR » April 2nd, 2020, 3:17 pm

alan weinberg wrote:
March 28th, 2020, 6:08 pm
Joseph MR wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 9:54 am
2008 Trimbach Frédéric Émile- still young and tight when first opened. The palate became more saturated over
3-4 days.
4 days shows amazing restraint. Wow.
Carpe Diem, but pacing myself!
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