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#1 Post by Lee Braem » March 11th, 2020, 5:40 pm

I know the feeling here on the east coast, but how are people in the wine biz feeling? I take it “hospitality” is slowing down a bit. I just don’t want the wine business to take a hit when it needs visitors and customers.

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#2 Post by GregT » March 11th, 2020, 8:18 pm

Don't know how it is regarding visitors but it's caused the cancellation of a few large tastings. I guess the idea of people spitting and splashing isn't quite what the doctor thinks is a good idea.
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#3 Post by Carl Steefel » March 11th, 2020, 8:19 pm

I did not go to any vineyards, but the restaurants around there were full...

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#4 Post by Marc Hauser » March 11th, 2020, 8:48 pm

I’ve heard from friends here (Napa) that they’re seeing less traffic, large tasting groups are canceling, and hotels have unusual vacancy. Also, this reporting: https://www.northbaybusinessjournal.co ... oronavirus
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#5 Post by N. Justl » March 11th, 2020, 9:00 pm

My wife and I are going to Napa on Friday. We switched a few weeks ago to Carmel & Napa after our Italy plans for this same time got disrupted.

Anyway, we had Shafer booked and paid for when I got a call and email stating they have cancelled all tastings for the rest of the month. Supposed to get a refund soon, but I hope this trend doesn’t continue or we will be sitting in a hotel room all day. Oh well...
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#6 Post by Andy Sc » March 12th, 2020, 12:52 am

Hotels back here in Europe are 50 to 90% less occupied than a year ago. So impact is heavy. Same will be the case in wine country at some point in the next weeks. Let's just hope that we see a quick normalization into summer (or at least fall).
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#7 Post by Alex Rychlewski » March 12th, 2020, 3:57 am

The en primeur tastings will take place at the end of the month as planned according to the President of the Union des Grands Crus.
Of course, should the virus situation go to the third stage (full epidemic), that might be called into question.

France is the biggest country in the EU, and the situatoin is quite varied depending on where we're talking about - serious in Alsace but not, for the moment, in the Aquitaine region.

You might think that with the absence of the Chinese and many Americans (even if they are not affected by the travel ban) that attendance the en primeur tastings will suffer greatly.
And that will probably be the case.
But these tastings are not actually part of a buying trip and importers generally go on a wine's reputation and what critics say.

Be that as it may, the situation is unprecedented and the sales campaign will certainly be like no other.

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#8 Post by Andrew Ing » March 12th, 2020, 5:19 am

We had to pull the plug on Napa this weekend. Son's school trip was cancelled. Daughter's college is shutting down. We were not thrilled about flying through Oakland anyway. We felt good about the wine country itself, but had to pull it on a variety of factors.
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#9 Post by Markus S » March 12th, 2020, 8:03 am

Shouldn't this be combined with the "Who's Going to France?" thread? [training.gif]
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#10 Post by larry schaffer » March 12th, 2020, 8:30 am

Me thinks this will get worse before it gets better. As of now, HdR is still planned for the end of April, but with a big focus on producers from France, my guess is that they will have to postpone it. I think the same will happen with a lot of regional tastings - not only wine, but beer festivals as well.

It's interesting that Shafer has cancelled all tastings through the end of the month - have not heard of any other individual winery taking that stance. Anyone else have more information about others doing this?

I am doing a tasting at California Adventures at Disneyland this weekend - relatively small groups of 40 or so - should be interesting . . .

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#11 Post by Gabe Berk » March 12th, 2020, 8:57 am

I would imagine as the virus spreads in the next week or so, wineries will have to make a very difficult decision to halt visitors from coming, especially at larger wineries like V Sattui, Mondavi, Sterling...Weird times.

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#12 Post by Tom DeBiase » March 12th, 2020, 9:07 am

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March 12th, 2020, 8:30 am
Me thinks this will get worse before it gets better. As of now, HdR is still planned for the end of April, but with a big focus on producers from France, my guess is that they will have to postpone it. I think the same will happen with a lot of regional tastings - not only wine, but beer festivals as well.

It's interesting that Shafer has cancelled all tastings through the end of the month - have not heard of any other individual winery taking that stance. Anyone else have more information about others doing this?

I am doing a tasting at California Adventures at Disneyland this weekend - relatively small groups of 40 or so - should be interesting . . .

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I love wine and all things wine but if HdR does not postpone or cancel the event soon it will be very irresponsible on their part, especially with the travel involved.

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#13 Post by Tom Lee » March 12th, 2020, 9:26 am

I’m surprised the Wine Spectator Grand Tastings in late April have yet to be cancelled. Can’t imagine winemakers would fly in from France and Italy.

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#14 Post by Markus S » March 12th, 2020, 9:29 am

Tom Lee wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 9:26 am
Can’t imagine winemakers would fly in from France and Italy.
And as of tomorrow, they literally cannot, per the President's order.
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#15 Post by PeterJ » March 12th, 2020, 10:00 am

The wine bar I work for does frequent events with groups that are in the South OC area for business gatherings at the four major high end hotels. We’ve had four of our next six events cancel because the hosting event has been cancelled....... and the company that organizes them says it’s getting more cancellations every day.
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#16 Post by Dav1d S@wyer » March 12th, 2020, 10:27 am

It's only anecdotal info but I just had a colleague cancel a group Napa trip in a few weeks because of it.
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#17 Post by Jim Anderson » March 12th, 2020, 12:54 pm

larry schaffer wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 8:30 am
Me thinks this will get worse before it gets better. As of now, HdR is still planned for the end of April, but with a big focus on producers from France, my guess is that they will have to postpone it. I think the same will happen with a lot of regional tastings - not only wine, but beer festivals as well.

It's interesting that Shafer has cancelled all tastings through the end of the month - have not heard of any other individual winery taking that stance. Anyone else have more information about others doing this?

I am doing a tasting at California Adventures at Disneyland this weekend - relatively small groups of 40 or so - should be interesting . . .

Cheers.
We met this morning as a whole winery staff. We have decided, at least for today and tomorrow, to continue our by appointment only tastings. We are amending the structure a bit. We will not offer a charcuterie and cheese plate for the time being. We are cutting our tasting times from 3/day to 2/day to allow for extra cleaning between visits. We will not combine any groups regardless of size so will staff and schedule accordingly. Everyone will wear gloves to handle glassware, etc. used by guests.

Again, this is covering basically today and tomorrow and we will see how that goes. We will adjust accordingly should it be deemed necessary. I do think that there is a very strong likelihood that a state/nationwide mandate that effectively closes restaurants and bars (and tasting rooms) is coming at some point in the future. Not being political about this, just looking at what is happening in the world and think those measures will eventually end up on our doorstep at some point.
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#18 Post by GregT » March 12th, 2020, 2:42 pm

I don't think the Wine Experience will be held. And HdR has just been cancelled.

In the last day or so NY banned gatherings of over 500 people and California banned gatherings of over 250 people and Washington banned gatherings of over 250 people in the Seattle area. I was at a pretty large tasting yesterday and it occurred to me that having a lot of people in close proximity to each other spitting into buckets was not something that seemed like a good idea. I would imagine that a lot of wine tastings are going to be cancelled. Too bad because I was looking forward to the Family Winemakers.

Public transportation will also be affected but interestingly, automobile traffic also seems lighter than usual. I don't know if that's the actual case or not but it would make sense if people are increasingly working from home and avoiding travel that would be exclusively for pleasure. If that's what's happening, seems like wine country may be in for yet another hit.
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#19 Post by John Morris » March 12th, 2020, 3:03 pm

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Public transportation will also be affected but interestingly, automobile traffic also seems lighter than usual. I don't know if that's the actual case or not but it would make sense if people are increasingly working from home and avoiding travel that would be exclusively for pleasure. If that's what's happening, seems like wine country may be in for yet another hit.
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#20 Post by Larry Stein » March 12th, 2020, 3:15 pm

I already posted this in the Ridge Monte Bello thread. The March MB Component Event (last weekend of the month) has been cancelled.

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#21 Post by Brian Tuite » March 12th, 2020, 3:33 pm

Was talking with Tegan Passalacqua today and he told me that distributors are saying nobody is ordering wine. Restaurants, Grocery Stores, Licquor Stores... have been slow and not restocking.

Traffic through the Valley didn’t seem any different today.
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#22 Post by Al Osterheld » March 12th, 2020, 4:24 pm

Not surprised HdR was postponed, was surprised by the recent email stating it was still on.

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#23 Post by KyleC » March 12th, 2020, 4:30 pm

Good article from the SF Chronicle's wine writer on this subject:

https://www.sfchronicle.com/wine/articl ... 124100.php

On a personal note, bummed Ridge is cancelling it's Monte Bello Assemblage event, but I get why they're doing it.
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#24 Post by Lee Braem » March 12th, 2020, 4:40 pm

I have a week long trip planned to Napa and Sonoma in late October. I plan to make that trip, god willing. I also plan to be a good consumer and buy stuff. Hope this is all a bad nightmare by then.

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#25 Post by larry schaffer » March 12th, 2020, 4:44 pm

I had a private tasting scheduled a group of about 60 in Redondo Beach tomorrow night that was just postponed, and I was supposed to pour at Disneyland this weekend - and obviously that is not going to happen.

We are keeping our tasting room open for now - and will continue to do so and monitor things moving forward.

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#26 Post by GregT » March 12th, 2020, 7:18 pm

Brian Tuite wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 3:33 pm
Was talking with Tegan Passalacqua today and he told me that distributors are saying nobody is ordering wine. Restaurants, Grocery Stores, Licquor Stores... have been slow and not restocking.

Traffic through the Valley didn’t seem any different today.
I don't know if it's the same up there but I just had a conversation with a store owner a few minutes ago and I asked him if he was going out of business or just couldn't get stock. He said it was crazy but people were cleaning off the shelves. By five o'clock he'd done fifty percent more business than he usually does in a whole day. He's getting stock but people are lining up at seven a.m. before he's open. No water and no paper goods were in the store - he said he sold out an entire truckload.

People are weird.
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#27 Post by Steve Crawford » March 12th, 2020, 7:27 pm

around 130k deaths a year combined between influenza and opiates in the US. 40 dead in US from corona.
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#28 Post by Randy Bowman » March 12th, 2020, 7:48 pm

Hospitality, food service and retail have all seen a loss of business since mid January and now in March, you can definitely state it is the loss of visitors. Unfortunately, it also proves the point certain areas/businesses have dedicated themselves to visitors and not the locals. At 4 PM today, a friend seated at an outside table of a downtown restaurant, took a picture of one block. No people. One parked car. No traffic. Restaurants aren't buying wine/liquor at the usual amounts because of the loss of business, so the distributors are also losing sales. On the plus side, if you are coming to Napa in the near future, accommodations are the cheapest they've been. You can get into most restaurants that normally require reservations. Retailers have better stock than before and at lower prices. There has only been one case of Corona Virus in Napa. Every business has an excess of toilet paper.
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#29 Post by Sean_S » March 12th, 2020, 8:12 pm

Larry Stein wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 3:15 pm
I already posted this in the Ridge Monte Bello thread. The March MB Component Event (last weekend of the month) has been cancelled.
Not the only one either. I've gotten at least 1/2 dozen events cancelled this weekend. Most tasting rooms remain open but pickup parties etc are all being cancelled.

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#30 Post by Ron Slye » March 12th, 2020, 8:20 pm

GregT wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 7:18 pm
Brian Tuite wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 3:33 pm
Was talking with Tegan Passalacqua today and he told me that distributors are saying nobody is ordering wine. Restaurants, Grocery Stores, Licquor Stores... have been slow and not restocking.

Traffic through the Valley didn’t seem any different today.
I don't know if it's the same up there but I just had a conversation with a store owner a few minutes ago and I asked him if he was going out of business or just couldn't get stock. He said it was crazy but people were cleaning off the shelves. By five o'clock he'd done fifty percent more business than he usually does in a whole day. He's getting stock but people are lining up at seven a.m. before he's open. No water and no paper goods were in the store - he said he sold out an entire truckload.

People are weird.
In the Seattle area we had a run on toilet paper and bottled water. None of this makes sense. But a friend speculated that people are reverting to earthquake preparedness. There is no indication of any concern or risk to the water supply. Toilet paper -- as I understand it the virus is no worse or better on this score than the regular flu.

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#31 Post by David_K » March 12th, 2020, 8:31 pm

The concern is if supply chains are disrupted, stores can't get deliveries, cities basically shut down, what do you *really* not want to run out of? Toliet paper is one of those items. Is that likely to happen? I don't know, but we do not know what the next few weeks are going to look like. This week would have been unthinkable just two weeks ago. So it makes total sense to me to make sure you have enough on hand. (Not saying it's right to hoard, but just to make sure you're covered for a few weeks.)
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#32 Post by Ed Steinway » March 12th, 2020, 8:46 pm

GregT wrote:
Public transportation will also be affected but interestingly, automobile traffic also seems lighter than usual. I don't know if that's the actual case or not but it would make sense if people are increasingly working from home and avoiding travel that would be exclusively for pleasure. If that's what's happening, seems like wine country may be in for yet another hit.
In the Bay Area, freeway traffic is down and BART has 30% less passengers than earlier this year. I am sure that more people are working from home, at least for the short term. And, we have found parking in San Francisco has gone from impossible to merely difficult, which seems like another sign of less people on the roads.

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#33 Post by Geoff F. » March 12th, 2020, 10:30 pm

I'm really hoping our newly minted tradition of heading to Willamette Valley for Memorial Day isn't interrupted this year. But realistically we'll be looking at well over half a million cases nationwide (or a million+ true cases) so the odds are not looking favorable.
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#34 Post by David Kim » March 13th, 2020, 12:31 am

Traveled for work this week and there was definitely a noticeable drop in people traveling. The hotel that I stayed at is usually at 90%+ occupancy and they told me they're at 30% this week. My Uber driver at the airport told me he'd waited over 6 hours for a pick up. Restaurants in SF and the bay area have had a significant drop in business. My employer, my clients, and most of my friends employers have all implemented domestic travel bans and have encouraged (if not made mandatory) working from home for the next few weeks. This is going to be painful for everyone in travel, hospitality and F&B and i'm sure the everyone else will also feel the ripple effects in the coming months.

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#35 Post by Andy Sc » March 13th, 2020, 2:38 am

Same over here in Europe, traffic, hospitality, movies, parks heavily down. Concerts and other larger gatherings all postponed. I've got roughly 10 emails this week from wine retailers/wineries postponing/cancelling larger tasting events. People on high alert. This alertness makes me confident that not only the storm passes with less casualties but that the rebound could start as early mid/end of May. Fingers crossed.
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#36 Post by Hank Victor » March 13th, 2020, 6:34 am

A wise man once said retail is dead or something like that...

There’s been a massive slowdown for me the last week and a half after an outstanding February.
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#37 Post by Josh Grossman » March 13th, 2020, 7:47 am

Not wine country--but:
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#38 Post by larry schaffer » March 13th, 2020, 7:56 am

It'll be interesting to see what it's like in my tasting room in downtown Los Olivos this weekend. There were people out and about yesterday.

SB Vintners postponed their festival, slated for early May, until October, and the Santa Barbara Culinary Experience, a celebration of food and wine honoring Julia Child, which was supposed to take place this weekend, has been postponed until next year

Not to be a bit morbid, but the World of Pinot Noir did go on as planned last weekend - probably the last major wine event to do so - and there were plenty of folks from not aournd the country but around the world. Hoping that all of these folks are fine . . .

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#39 Post by John Peacock » March 13th, 2020, 8:12 am

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Everyone will wear gloves to handle glassware, etc. used by guests.
Jim, I'm curious on this part. If the virus is passed via simple breathing (it is), why would gloves be needed/necessary? If one of your guests had the virus, they would've already infected your staff by the time it was time to clean up just by being in the same room. If your in the process of cleaning up, why not just wash your hands when done and make a point to not touch your face until you can wash your hands? I guess the gloves just seem like an unnecessary extra burden with little to no benefit.
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#40 Post by Matthew King » March 13th, 2020, 8:35 am

FWIW, I may be whistling by the graveyard but I spent an hour tasting wines at Lone Madrine yesterday afternoon in Paso area.

It’s a small facility but a dozen people were there on a Thursday afternoon.

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#41 Post by R. Frankel » March 13th, 2020, 8:36 am

This thread has me thinking of going up to Napa or Sonoma (I live in San Francisco), going on a nice hike, and enjoying one of the excellent restaurants. No wine tasting, no massage. But with air travel basically cut off I’ve been thinking about lots of driving trips in my free time.
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#42 Post by Larry Stein » March 13th, 2020, 8:40 am

I'm still planning on going to Ridge on the 29th, just with my wife and the friend who I got a MB Component ticket for. Low-key, bring a picnic and an older bottle of Ridge, taste at the bar.

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#43 Post by Rick Allen » March 13th, 2020, 9:36 am

Just as a point of reference, we closed our Tap Room until April (at least). As far as we know, no one at the Brewery has COVID-19 (there's only six of us), and we'd like to keep it that way.

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#44 Post by Mike V e r h i l l e » March 13th, 2020, 10:01 am

Steve Crawford wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 7:27 pm
around 130k deaths a year combined between influenza and opiates in the US. 40 dead in US from corona.
time to panic.
These estimates are from the CDC. Admittedly it is a worst case but these people have spent their lives studying epidemiology. If that isn't at least a little scary, I don't know what is. If strong measures aren't taken our hospitals and ICU's will be quickly overwhelmed. The ID Doctors at our big city hospital are very concerned.
"Between 160 million and 214 million people in the U.S. could be infected over the course of the epidemic, according to one projection. That could last months or even over a year, with infections concentrated in shorter periods, staggered across time in different communities, experts said. As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die."

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Re: What’s the mood re Coronavirus in wine country?

#45 Post by Jim Anderson » March 13th, 2020, 10:53 am

John Peacock wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 8:12 am
Jim Anderson wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 12:54 pm

Everyone will wear gloves to handle glassware, etc. used by guests.
Jim, I'm curious on this part. If the virus is passed via simple breathing (it is), why would gloves be needed/necessary? If one of your guests had the virus, they would've already infected your staff by the time it was time to clean up just by being in the same room. If your in the process of cleaning up, why not just wash your hands when done and make a point to not touch your face until you can wash your hands? I guess the gloves just seem like an unnecessary extra burden with little to no benefit.
Really? There’s a reason medical personnel wear them. I’m not comparing people conducting tastings to them but if you can’t see the viable reason for using easy on and off gloves for quick transportation of dirty glassware I guess we have different viewpoints. There’s a reason they tell you not to shake hands. Just because someone is in your presence doesn’t necessarily mean you’ve contracted C-19. The more intimate the contact becomes the more likely the possibility of transmission. It’s pretty simple. This isn’t like keeping them on at all times. It’s in handling stuff people have just touched and had their mouths on and then disposing of them.
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#46 Post by Peter Kleban » March 13th, 2020, 11:17 am

As I understand it, there are two main ways it's transmitted:
!. By an infected person sneezing or coughing (or maybe even heavy breathing, I'm not sure about that) and you breathing in some of it. It's recommended to stay 6 ft. away from anyone with the virus to prevent this. Of course, people are most infections right after they get the disease, at which point they don't necessarily have any symptoms.
2. By the microbes getting in through your mouth, eyes, or nose. If you have some on your hands (which can happen by your shaking an infected person's hand, touching an infected doorknob, or surface) and then touch your eyes, nose or mouth, you can get it.
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Re: What’s the mood re Coronavirus in wine country?

#47 Post by Jim Anderson » March 13th, 2020, 11:26 am

Peter Kleban wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 11:17 am
As I understand it, there are two main ways it's transmitted:
!. By an infected person sneezing or coughing (or maybe even heavy breathing, I'm not sure about that) and you breathing in some of it. It's recommended to stay 6 ft. away from anyone with the virus to prevent this. Of course, people are most infections right after they get the disease, at which point they don't necessarily have any symptoms.
2. By the microbes getting in through your mouth, eyes, or nose. If you have some on your hands (which can happen by your shaking an infected person's hand, touching an infected doorknob, or surface) and then touch your eyes, nose or mouth, you can get it.
Exactly. Using gloves for short term transportation may seem over the top but I would rather have a protocol of minimal interference that can be impactful. Take the glasses from the table to the dishwasher, place them accordingly, take your gloves off and toss them.
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Re: What’s the mood re Coronavirus in wine country?

#48 Post by lleichtman » March 13th, 2020, 1:18 pm

Lee Braem wrote:
March 11th, 2020, 5:40 pm
I know the feeling here on the east coast, but how are people in the wine biz feeling? I take it “hospitality” is slowing down a bit. I just don’t want the wine business to take a hit when it needs visitors and customers.
Not good mood. Went to barrel tasting weekend in Sonoma last weekend. Very quiet except at Passalaqua because they were serving paella. Some places were dead empty.
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Re: What’s the mood re Coronavirus in wine country?

#49 Post by Steve Crawford » March 13th, 2020, 1:54 pm

Mike V e r h i l l e wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 10:01 am
Steve Crawford wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 7:27 pm
around 130k deaths a year combined between influenza and opiates in the US. 40 dead in US from corona.
time to panic.
These estimates are from the CDC. Admittedly it is a worst case but these people have spent their lives studying epidemiology. If that isn't at least a little scary, I don't know what is. If strong measures aren't taken our hospitals and ICU's will be quickly overwhelmed. The ID Doctors at our big city hospital are very concerned.
"Between 160 million and 214 million people in the U.S. could be infected over the course of the epidemic, according to one projection. That could last months or even over a year, with infections concentrated in shorter periods, staggered across time in different communities, experts said. As many as 200,000 to 1.7 million people could die."
gov projections are usually accurate. with that being said, one of us will be right champagne.gif

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Re: What’s the mood re Coronavirus in wine country?

#50 Post by Al Osterheld » March 13th, 2020, 2:14 pm

According to a recent study, linked above, breathing normally spreads the virus. Sneezing and coughing spreads more in that moment, but breathing apparently spreads plenty.

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