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anybody traveling in France?
What's it like? Any restrictions on movement? Are restaurants open and wine producers receiving visitors? I know things can change quickly. At the time of posting this message almost 1,000 COVID-19 cases are reported in France.
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
the embassy still says everything is free for movement but that there are extra checks for flights coming in from highly impacted areas. I am going in a month but have a friend going in 10 days. last night she told me she contacted her tour guides and hotel and they told her Beaune is still business as usual.
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I know some schools in Alsace are closed for several weeks (as is true in parts of Switzerland), and I read the Louvre was closed (haven't confirmed). Otherwise, I have not heard of any larger closings in France.
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We are likely going to scrap our 2 weeks there in May. I had a week of appointments set in Champagne as part of the trip.
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My wife and I were in Paris last week. Did not notice anything different than the last time I was there — 4 months ago. Restaurants were full; needed reservations, even mid week.
(Note: Louvre employee’s refused to open the Louvre after we left.)
(Note: Louvre employee’s refused to open the Louvre after we left.)
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
At the moment it's mostly business as usual. There have been some restrictions in some areas, with schools temporarily closing in Alsace and the Oise region, north of Paris (Chantilly area) and the odd football match off; in the wine world a Burgundy wine fair due to take place this weekend was cancelled, there are rumours that En Primeur might be postponed. So nothing remotely like the situation in Italy.
It's probably only a question of time, of course.
It's probably only a question of time, of course.
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I live in Bordeaux, school reopens after the scheduled break tomorrow. You wouldn’t really know there was an ‘issue’ except all the pharmacies have signs saying no masks or sanitiser available.
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I had read that almost half of the reported cases in the country are in the Oise area.Julian Marshall wrote: ↑March 8th, 2020, 1:18 am At the moment it's mostly business as usual. There have been some restrictions in some areas, with schools temporarily closing in Alsace and the Oise region, north of Paris (Chantilly area) and the odd football match off; in the wine world a Burgundy wine fair due to take place this weekend was cancelled, there are rumours that En Primeur might be postponed. So nothing remotely like the situation in Italy.
It's probably only a question of time, of course.
I had also read the Louvre was closed, but have since read that it reopened?
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The Louvre closed for several days at the insistence of the employees, but it reopened.
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I am supposed to head there on March 27, but my French colleague (in Orleans) is not sure that things will not start to shut down as the number of cases increase. For France, I expect the worst is still ahead. And we have warnings that the U.S. State Department may revoke my permission to travel, although that has not happened yet.
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I cancelled my travel plans for late April / early May. For anyone in good health without young children and/or around elderly parents, probably fine to go.
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Our concern is that we get there, and then we either experience a quarantine and get held there, or our flights get muffed up and canceled. FWIW, we have not cancelled the trip yet but it's just not looking good.
And, as a huge tennis fan, i just learned the BNP Paribas is cancelled. That's a big deal, with multiple impacts to a lot of people. The event is just 2 hours from our house. Ironically, we were going to attend and spend some days there but the high lodging costs were too much and so we dumped the idea. This is a 2 week event, over 17 million in prize money....the event is toast.
And, as a huge tennis fan, i just learned the BNP Paribas is cancelled. That's a big deal, with multiple impacts to a lot of people. The event is just 2 hours from our house. Ironically, we were going to attend and spend some days there but the high lodging costs were too much and so we dumped the idea. This is a 2 week event, over 17 million in prize money....the event is toast.
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
Someone in the Coronavirus thread in the Travel section posted that there are 30-something cases in Beaune. (Don't know if this is correct.) You might want to follow up with him. Beaune is about the size of one neighborhood in Seattle, i.e., a tiny fraction.
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
I was in Paris last week Feb 29-Mar 4 and everything was operating normally. The Louvre closed for a couple days but reopened as others have said. Customs process entering France and upon return to the US was normal as well; we weren't even asked if we felt ill. British Airways cancelled a few flights, but no noticable disruptions to travel.
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We were supposed to be in the Provence area in a little over two weeks, but we just canceled. We were worried about the same thing as Frank. Possibly being stuck there or quarantined. We are considering a Champagne, Chablis, Burgundy trip in the fall, instead.
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The current situation is that the government is preparing to raise the level of their grading of the situation from level 2 to level 3, probably in the next two or three days, meaning that they consider the virus to be present in most of the country rather than a few regions. When this change takes place, more schools will be closed and some public transport services will be affected. All meetings of more than 1 000 people have already been banned, so I imagine that puts paid to EP (not that anyone cares).
Basically the thing seems now to be spreading fast and it looks inevitable that there will be increased disruptions, so it would probably be wise to postpone any trips. If you do decide to brave the bug, I shall be quarantining myself in my cellar, with my corkscrew. You're all welcome to join me.
Basically the thing seems now to be spreading fast and it looks inevitable that there will be increased disruptions, so it would probably be wise to postpone any trips. If you do decide to brave the bug, I shall be quarantining myself in my cellar, with my corkscrew. You're all welcome to join me.
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We were supposed to leave for Alsace on Wednesday, but are cancelling due to concerns others have noted: getting stuck in a quarantine or lockdown on one end of the trip or the other (we're from Seattle so who knows what will happen here in the coming weeks). Also it sounds like most museums and cultural sites in the region are closed, so there would be much less to do then we had planned on.
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Also considerate to those not from Seattle...that you don't spread the mess from King County.....
This is all a two-way street/ contamination.
We don't really know much about its spread yet, given the lack of testing/ results after all this time. But, I'd be more scared to visit Pike's Market now than the Louvre.
This is all a two-way street/ contamination.
We don't really know much about its spread yet, given the lack of testing/ results after all this time. But, I'd be more scared to visit Pike's Market now than the Louvre.
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This was pretty much what my colleague in France said (he works for the guv'mint). My original plan was to sneak in and then get quarantined there, pouring wine at either Huet or Cotat for a couple of weeks...Julian Marshall wrote: ↑March 9th, 2020, 9:29 am The current situation is that the government is preparing to raise the level of their grading of the situation from level 2 to level 3, probably in the next two or three days, meaning that they consider the virus to be present in most of the country rather than a few regions. When this change takes place, more schools will be closed and some public transport services will be affected. All meetings of more than 1 000 people have already been banned, so I imagine that puts paid to EP (not that anyone cares).
Basically the thing seems now to be spreading fast and it looks inevitable that there will be increased disruptions, so it would probably be wise to postpone any trips. If you do decide to brave the bug, I shall be quarantining myself in my cellar, with my corkscrew. You're all welcome to join me.
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Noticeable today that people have stopped shaking hands and kissing for the most part.
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I think that was me. According to this article that's from March 7 there were 119 confirmed cases in Bourgogne-Franche-Comté.theocorrel wrote: ↑March 9th, 2020, 12:07 am Someone in the Coronavirus thread in the Travel section posted that there are 30-something cases in Beaune. (Don't know if this is correct.) You might want to follow up with him. Beaune is about the size of one neighborhood in Seattle, i.e., a tiny fraction.
https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr ... 95867.html
I was going to fly this Friday, but the people I'm working with to import some wines and make connections with Domaine's really suggested I not go for my and their safety. The virus itself is not my worry, but the hysteria behind it. Take a look at this, a whole hotel in Beaune was quarantined after a guest died. They weren't allowed to go until the test came back negative, luckily it was not the virus.
https://www.thelocal.fr/20200226/corona ... hinese-man
I really wanted to go, but it wouldn't be fun since things will start closing down once France goes into level 3.
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We successfully found our house sitter today, which is ironic because this was our main concern: find someone responsible and trustworthy to take care of the dude who is in my avatar. Now, we have the hardest part solved and yet we're dealing with the frigging virus fallout. Whether the risk is reduced or minimal in 8 weeks, I'm not sure that is going to happen and so we'll just wait now and see what happens in France, what the CDC guidance is on travel and what shakes out here locally. If things get bonkers here in SoCal, then we're not leaving for sure.
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Pretty sure that this is not correct. I just arrived in Beaune and none of my friends here heard anything of the kind. That is not to say that cases in France are not likely hugely underreported, but I think there is no basis for the notion that Beaune is any kind of hotspot for coronavirus. I have to say, getting into a 1975 Bollinger while a pot-au-feu cooks on the stove, I am happy to be back, jet lag and virus pandaemonium notwithstanding.theocorrel wrote: ↑March 9th, 2020, 12:07 am Someone in the Coronavirus thread in the Travel section posted that there are 30-something cases in Beaune. (Don't know if this is correct.) You might want to follow up with him. Beaune is about the size of one neighborhood in Seattle, i.e., a tiny fraction.
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Les Printemps des Champagnes has now been cancelled.
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Also, Les Printemps des Chateauneuf du Pape and a wine festival in Auvergne.
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William - the person reporting came & posted in this thread with sources (I have not read) - take a look.
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I was supposed to go on Thursday, but switched my flight to the end of April. For all I know things could be worse then.
I'm not scared of the virus for myself, but I'd rather not be part of the problem of spreading anything right now. Also worried about flight cancellations/quarantines. With young kids at home, I can't be stuck abroad for extended periods of time.
I'm not scared of the virus for myself, but I'd rather not be part of the problem of spreading anything right now. Also worried about flight cancellations/quarantines. With young kids at home, I can't be stuck abroad for extended periods of time.
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William Kelley wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 7:30 amPretty sure that this is not correct. I just arrived in Beaune and none of my friends here heard anything of the kind. That is not to say that cases in France are not likely hugely underreported, but I think there is no basis for the notion that Beaune is any kind of hotspot for coronavirus. I have to say, getting into a 1975 Bollinger while a pot-au-feu cooks on the stove, I am happy to be back, jet lag and virus pandaemonium notwithstanding.theocorrel wrote: ↑March 9th, 2020, 12:07 am Someone in the Coronavirus thread in the Travel section posted that there are 30-something cases in Beaune. (Don't know if this is correct.) You might want to follow up with him. Beaune is about the size of one neighborhood in Seattle, i.e., a tiny fraction.
I've searched the two threads in the travel forum and don't find any reference to Beaune.theocorrel wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 8:36 am William - the person reporting came & posted in this thread with sources (I have not read) - take a look.
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here is the original quote regarding beaune however from some searching it seemed like it was just precautionary: https://france3-regions.francetvinfo.fr ... 92069.htmlBarry L i p t o n wrote: ↑February 26th, 2020, 8:29 am Ibis hotel in Beaune under partial quarantine (one whole group); right now it seems like it's only folks who had contact with one individual.
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It's probably worth cross-referencing the threads in the Travel and Restaurants Forum, since they're active and cover the same topic:
Coronavirus and Summer Travel
Drastic times call for drastic measures (focused on Italy so far)
Coronavirus and Summer Travel
Drastic times call for drastic measures (focused on Italy so far)
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John - I can’t really search the Board right now but it looks like the guy might have removed the post - but nonetheless, he posted here acknowledging the other post & providing sources. In his original Travel post, he said 30-something cases in Beaune, as I said, but I don’t know if this is correct. I haven’t really read the sources - I’m not going to France immediately - but the one from the French government does seem to report 115+ cases in the Bourgogne Franche Comte Department as of a few days ago.
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If you're going to make claims like that, you should provide a citation. It seems from the story in post #32 that a Chinese visitor in Beaune died of a heart attack and that, out of caution, 30 others in the same tour group were briefly quarantined until the cause of death was determined.
Bourgogne Franche Comte encompasses seven departments, and stretches from nearly Paris to the Swiss border.
Bourgogne Franche Comte encompasses seven departments, and stretches from nearly Paris to the Swiss border.
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John - The only claim I made is that someone posted this in the Travel section - which he has acknowledged - that I didn’t know if it was true, and that people should talk to him or consult his sources. He provided his sources in this very thread. Get a grip. The English was clear and basic.
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Ryan, good to hear from you. How's everyone doing? Was good seeing you a few months ago.ryancurry wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 8:59 am I was supposed to go on Thursday, but switched my flight to the end of April. For all I know things could be worse then.
I'm not scared of the virus for myself, but I'd rather not be part of the problem of spreading anything right now. Also worried about flight cancellations/quarantines. With young kids at home, I can't be stuck abroad for extended periods of time.
Were you on United? I'm waiting to see if they're going to offer any relief for those like me who have tickets coming up but who would rather apply the full value to a future trip. I'm not wanting to pay the $200 change fee if I can avoid it.
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2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres
Kindness matters. Dignity matters. Accountability matters. Respect matters. LEADERSHIP MATTERS!
2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
Hi Frank,
All is well here!!
I was on Norwegian to Paris, then lufthansa (miles) back. I had to pay $330 to change the Norwegian flight. I just hope that they are still in business when I try to go next month. Their stock has been getting killed. I paid $125 to get my miles back from United. Not ideal, but it is what it is.
Best,
Ryan
All is well here!!
I was on Norwegian to Paris, then lufthansa (miles) back. I had to pay $330 to change the Norwegian flight. I just hope that they are still in business when I try to go next month. Their stock has been getting killed. I paid $125 to get my miles back from United. Not ideal, but it is what it is.
Best,
Ryan
Frank Murray III wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 12:29 pmRyan, good to hear from you. How's everyone doing? Was good seeing you a few months ago.ryancurry wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 8:59 am I was supposed to go on Thursday, but switched my flight to the end of April. For all I know things could be worse then.
I'm not scared of the virus for myself, but I'd rather not be part of the problem of spreading anything right now. Also worried about flight cancellations/quarantines. With young kids at home, I can't be stuck abroad for extended periods of time.
Were you on United? I'm waiting to see if they're going to offer any relief for those like me who have tickets coming up but who would rather apply the full value to a future trip. I'm not wanting to pay the $200 change fee if I can avoid it.
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A couple of weeks ago, I cancelled a United flight to Taiwan. I got 100% refund. No change fees.Frank Murray III wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 12:29 pmRyan, good to hear from you. How's everyone doing? Was good seeing you a few months ago.ryancurry wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 8:59 am I was supposed to go on Thursday, but switched my flight to the end of April. For all I know things could be worse then.
I'm not scared of the virus for myself, but I'd rather not be part of the problem of spreading anything right now. Also worried about flight cancellations/quarantines. With young kids at home, I can't be stuck abroad for extended periods of time.
Were you on United? I'm waiting to see if they're going to offer any relief for those like me who have tickets coming up but who would rather apply the full value to a future trip. I'm not wanting to pay the $200 change fee if I can avoid it.
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Change and/or cancellation fees are based on purchased ticket class that's being cancelled/changed. Some ticket class = no change fee; other ticket class = change fee.Christopher Dunn wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 12:48 pmA couple of weeks ago, I cancelled a United flight to Taiwan. I got 100% refund. No change fees.Frank Murray III wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 12:29 pmRyan, good to hear from you. How's everyone doing? Was good seeing you a few months ago.ryancurry wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 8:59 am I was supposed to go on Thursday, but switched my flight to the end of April. For all I know things could be worse then.
I'm not scared of the virus for myself, but I'd rather not be part of the problem of spreading anything right now. Also worried about flight cancellations/quarantines. With young kids at home, I can't be stuck abroad for extended periods of time.
Were you on United? I'm waiting to see if they're going to offer any relief for those like me who have tickets coming up but who would rather apply the full value to a future trip. I'm not wanting to pay the $200 change fee if I can avoid it.
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Our travel is in May, which is not covered by the temporary fee waivers.Christopher Dunn wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 12:48 pmA couple of weeks ago, I cancelled a United flight to Taiwan. I got 100% refund. No change fees.Frank Murray III wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 12:29 pmRyan, good to hear from you. How's everyone doing? Was good seeing you a few months ago.ryancurry wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 8:59 am I was supposed to go on Thursday, but switched my flight to the end of April. For all I know things could be worse then.
I'm not scared of the virus for myself, but I'd rather not be part of the problem of spreading anything right now. Also worried about flight cancellations/quarantines. With young kids at home, I can't be stuck abroad for extended periods of time.
Were you on United? I'm waiting to see if they're going to offer any relief for those like me who have tickets coming up but who would rather apply the full value to a future trip. I'm not wanting to pay the $200 change fee if I can avoid it.
My best wines for 2020:
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2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
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2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
Refund of the full ticket price, or just the change fees??Christopher Dunn wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 12:48 pmA couple of weeks ago, I cancelled a United flight to Taiwan. I got 100% refund. No change fees.Frank Murray III wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 12:29 pmRyan, good to hear from you. How's everyone doing? Was good seeing you a few months ago.ryancurry wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 8:59 am I was supposed to go on Thursday, but switched my flight to the end of April. For all I know things could be worse then.
I'm not scared of the virus for myself, but I'd rather not be part of the problem of spreading anything right now. Also worried about flight cancellations/quarantines. With young kids at home, I can't be stuck abroad for extended periods of time.
Were you on United? I'm waiting to see if they're going to offer any relief for those like me who have tickets coming up but who would rather apply the full value to a future trip. I'm not wanting to pay the $200 change fee if I can avoid it.
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
Just to advise on Beaune situation
There have been no cases in Beaune so far. A Chinese tourist did indeed die of a heart attack, and so his group were kept in quarantine just for the length of time necessary for confirmation that the victim did not have the virus.
Grands Jours de Bourgogne was sensibly cancelled as being a high density event attracting visitors from all round the world. Some of the fringe events are continuing on a small scale.
There are some virus cases in the wider region, and of course we need to keep monitoring
At the moment:
no masks
no raiding of supermarket supplies
some people trying to restrain from handshakes etc
There have been no cases in Beaune so far. A Chinese tourist did indeed die of a heart attack, and so his group were kept in quarantine just for the length of time necessary for confirmation that the victim did not have the virus.
Grands Jours de Bourgogne was sensibly cancelled as being a high density event attracting visitors from all round the world. Some of the fringe events are continuing on a small scale.
There are some virus cases in the wider region, and of course we need to keep monitoring
At the moment:
no masks
no raiding of supermarket supplies
some people trying to restrain from handshakes etc
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
A good friend of mine was booked to spend this week in burgundy for the event. It got canceled but he decided to go anyway and make the best of his trip. He should be back this weekend and I will try to get information from him.
Frank, he is also a good friend of Bruce’s and works where Bruce did when he was working down here in San Diego. I’m sure we could connect the two of you and he can share notes with you
Frank, he is also a good friend of Bruce’s and works where Bruce did when he was working down here in San Diego. I’m sure we could connect the two of you and he can share notes with you
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
Yeah, that is all I could find myself...John Morris wrote: ↑March 10th, 2020, 10:31 am If you're going to make claims like that, you should provide a citation. It seems from the story in post #32 that a Chinese visitor in Beaune died of a heart attack and that, out of caution, 30 others in the same tour group were briefly quarantined until the cause of death was determined.
Bourgogne Franche Comte encompasses seven departments, and stretches from nearly Paris to the Swiss border.
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
From the European side of things, I would say; don't go. Things are escalating quickly and European governments are taking this very seriously (though in many cases too late).
People coming into Norway from infected areas are soon to be routinely quarantined I guess (this is now SOP in most businesses, Equinor (the Norwegian oil company) have suspended alle business trips by plane), and most European areas will be decided infected reasonably soon I guess. People may also be quarantined in infected areas before they are allowed to return home, and flights are being cancelled all over the place. Things are only bound to become worse.
I have had tons of meetings moved online, and like anybody who has the opportunity am working from home and doing virtual meetings. The fiber network thankfully is superb, and I may be moving to my reasonably isolated though online (Gigabit fiber) seaside cabin for periods.
People coming into Norway from infected areas are soon to be routinely quarantined I guess (this is now SOP in most businesses, Equinor (the Norwegian oil company) have suspended alle business trips by plane), and most European areas will be decided infected reasonably soon I guess. People may also be quarantined in infected areas before they are allowed to return home, and flights are being cancelled all over the place. Things are only bound to become worse.
I have had tons of meetings moved online, and like anybody who has the opportunity am working from home and doing virtual meetings. The fiber network thankfully is superb, and I may be moving to my reasonably isolated though online (Gigabit fiber) seaside cabin for periods.
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
Flying to Europe from today till June is utterly stupid.
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
I've been in Italia since 13 Feb.; a lot has happened here since I arrived.
I was to meet my wife in Strasbourg, where we'd spend a night or two before taking a week in Alsace. As of yesterday, I'd still clung to the idea that this was going to happen beginning 8 April, it won't.
The reality is that things everywhere are about to get worse, and by worse I largely refer to disruption. It's also important to me to respect locals that are in that precarious position of needing tourist dollars, but not wanting to be customer facing, so to speak. It's lose/lose right now, and for the next months, at least. I feel really bad for the business/people affected. Really bad.
Right now, as a tourist, I'm allowed to pass from Italy into France, and return (as my flight to USA is booked out of Italia, and I therefore have a legitimate need to travel; can't say with great confidence that this will continue to be the case.
My advice to anyone considering coming here in the next few months is to postpone. And this is coming from someone that elected to wait it out here.
There's nowhere else I'd rather be right now. Just wish my wife was with me.
I was to meet my wife in Strasbourg, where we'd spend a night or two before taking a week in Alsace. As of yesterday, I'd still clung to the idea that this was going to happen beginning 8 April, it won't.
The reality is that things everywhere are about to get worse, and by worse I largely refer to disruption. It's also important to me to respect locals that are in that precarious position of needing tourist dollars, but not wanting to be customer facing, so to speak. It's lose/lose right now, and for the next months, at least. I feel really bad for the business/people affected. Really bad.
Right now, as a tourist, I'm allowed to pass from Italy into France, and return (as my flight to USA is booked out of Italia, and I therefore have a legitimate need to travel; can't say with great confidence that this will continue to be the case.
My advice to anyone considering coming here in the next few months is to postpone. And this is coming from someone that elected to wait it out here.
There's nowhere else I'd rather be right now. Just wish my wife was with me.
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Re: anybody traveling in France?
Rather bluntly put, but that was more or less what I was trying to convey. And I would add "irresponsible".Pierfrancesco Bini wrote: ↑March 11th, 2020, 4:36 am
Flying to Europe from today till June is utterly stupid.
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Latest News from Norway: Cruise passengers are not allowed to embark in any circumstances. If you are put in "home quarantine" after being in contact with a person that may be infected (eg arriving from a area with Corona) it is now illegal to break the quarantine. Hospitals are withdrawing all vacations. Foreigners arriving from contaminated areas will be returned or put into quarantine.
This is how serious this is. You don't want to be in Europe this side of summer. Better stay home and be prepared, I just cannot see the US avoiding similar measures.
This is how serious this is. You don't want to be in Europe this side of summer. Better stay home and be prepared, I just cannot see the US avoiding similar measures.