The Big Scherrer Tasting Note Thread

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#51 Post by Fred Scherrer » February 24th, 2020, 10:57 am

Marc Hauser wrote:
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2008 Sonoma County Pinot. Simply delightful and still running strong. Great balance, lots of fruit and acid.

He started doing RRV Pinot futures this year. I bit for a case.
Marc, that 2008 Sonoma County PN is a total sleeper. Due to some issues with the vintage in certain parts, it was rather ignored at release. That bottling is my way to draw from wherever the components need to be from in order to make a delicious wine with an upward trajectory. I'm glad you had a chance to try one with a few years on it.

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#52 Post by T Fletcher » February 24th, 2020, 12:21 pm

My foray into Scherrer wines was last weekend with a 2013 Chardonnay Helfer purchased this past BD...it was fantastic!
  • 2013 Scherrer Winery Chardonnay Helfer Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (2/16/2020)
    Pop and pour; consumed over 2 days; bright nose of tropical fruit and lemon; palate was initially lemon and pretty white flowers, then tropical fruit; nice, mild acid and very balanced; day 2 showed a nose that was more suave, very pretty and elegant; the palate was more tropical fruit intensive with a little coconut on the backend and butterscotch; overall a little richer and rounded than day 1; liked it best around 65 degrees

    My first Scherrer Chardonnay and definitely a winner!
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#53 Post by JonathanG » March 11th, 2020, 10:32 pm

Cracked open the 2012 Platt Pinot last weekend. It was great, but I think fell a little short of the 2013, which is just fabulous in every way... Have a handful of the other pinots, will be giving those a go over the next few days. It's Scherrer week in my house starting tomorrow.

I think all of the local Berserkers should coordinate a meeting at Freds place. I would totally be in . And I'll drive.
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#54 Post by Jay Miller » March 12th, 2020, 7:17 am

I bought 2 of the OMV packs, tried one of each and put the other three in storage.

IMO, The 2013 is the only one close to ready although the 2015 was delicious 4 days after opening. I didn't have have the chance to test the 2014 with multiple days open.
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#55 Post by JonathanG » March 12th, 2020, 9:01 pm

Brig you start this thread 6 weeks ago and you only have one tasting note? Come on man, get with the program!

Couldn't resist, opened another of the 2013 Platt pinots tonight. I could literally just sit there and smell the wine for hours, I've never had a wine please the nose so much. Definitely in my top 5 CA pinots of all time.

On tap for Fri and Sat is the 2013 Big Brother and the Gunsalus.
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#56 Post by brigcampbell » March 13th, 2020, 4:51 am

Challenge accepted!

Like others, I should have purchased more so I'm not hoarding.

Fred said he will be back next year for BD12 so I got that going for me.
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Brig you start this thread 6 weeks ago and you only have one tasting note? Come on man, get with the program!

Couldn't resist, opened another of the 2013 Platt pinots tonight. I could literally just sit there and smell the wine for hours, I've never had a wine please the nose so much. Definitely in my top 5 CA pinots of all time.

On tap for Fri and Sat is the 2013 Big Brother and the Gunsalus.

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#57 Post by Jeff_M. » March 13th, 2020, 7:03 am

We opened a 2013 Helfer Vineyard Chardonnay recently. Big time crowd pleaser in the house. This was drinking beautifully. The 14 and 15 probably won't last long in the cellar now.
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#58 Post by Joe Chanley » March 13th, 2020, 7:04 am

had a 13 OMV last night....man was that delicious

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#59 Post by brigcampbell » March 13th, 2020, 9:09 am

Jeff_M. wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 7:03 am
We opened a 2013 Helfer Vineyard Chardonnay recently. Big time crowd pleaser in the house. This was drinking beautifully. The 14 and 15 probably won't last long in the cellar now.
I just pulled the '13 chardonnay from the box and put in the refrigerator.

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#60 Post by Jeff_M. » March 13th, 2020, 10:10 am

brigcampbell wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 9:09 am
Jeff_M. wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 7:03 am
We opened a 2013 Helfer Vineyard Chardonnay recently. Big time crowd pleaser in the house. This was drinking beautifully. The 14 and 15 probably won't last long in the cellar now.
I just pulled the '13 chardonnay from the box and put in the refrigerator.
Don't leave that bottle unattended after opening....its damn good and someone may over serve themselves [cheers.gif] [dance-clap.gif]
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#61 Post by JonathanG » March 13th, 2020, 11:09 pm

brigcampbell wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 9:09 am
Jeff_M. wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 7:03 am
We opened a 2013 Helfer Vineyard Chardonnay recently. Big time crowd pleaser in the house. This was drinking beautifully. The 14 and 15 probably won't last long in the cellar now.
I just pulled the '13 chardonnay from the box and put in the refrigerator.
Now we're talking!

I had to work till 1045pm, so had to defer my Scherrer pinot plans by a day.
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#62 Post by brigcampbell » March 16th, 2020, 10:58 am

JonathanG wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 11:09 pm
brigcampbell wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 9:09 am
Jeff_M. wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 7:03 am
We opened a 2013 Helfer Vineyard Chardonnay recently. Big time crowd pleaser in the house. This was drinking beautifully. The 14 and 15 probably won't last long in the cellar now.
I just pulled the '13 chardonnay from the box and put in the refrigerator.
Now we're talking!

I had to work till 1045pm, so had to defer my Scherrer pinot plans by a day.
  • 2013 Scherrer Winery Chardonnay Helfer Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (3/16/2020)
    Impressive complexity - aromas of light toast, coconut and yellow fruit. Extremely aromatic. That palate is great, lots to dissect. That attack is pear and riper chardonnay character but then right in the middle a lemon note and the acid is exposed, even some lime. The coconut aroma also shows on the palate and a hint of vanilla for good measure.
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#63 Post by Jeff_M. » March 16th, 2020, 11:28 am

brigcampbell wrote:
March 16th, 2020, 10:58 am
JonathanG wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 11:09 pm
brigcampbell wrote:
March 13th, 2020, 9:09 am


I just pulled the '13 chardonnay from the box and put in the refrigerator.
Now we're talking!

I had to work till 1045pm, so had to defer my Scherrer pinot plans by a day.
  • 2013 Scherrer Winery Chardonnay Helfer Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Russian River Valley (3/16/2020)
    Impressive complexity - aromas of light toast, coconut and yellow fruit. Extremely aromatic. That palate is great, lots to dissect. That attack is pear and riper chardonnay character but then right in the middle a lemon note and the acid is exposed, even some lime. The coconut aroma also shows on the palate and a hint of vanilla for good measure.
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#64 Post by Jud Reis » March 26th, 2020, 3:12 pm

Another note on the 2013 Helier Chardonnay: Nice powerful nose of tropical fruit, white flowers and lemon. Silky supple texture. Nice lemon and tropical fruit on the palate with a good balance of acidity and sweet fruit. Lovely.

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#65 Post by brigcampbell » April 4th, 2020, 3:45 pm

Fred just put up an offer. Pulled the trigger on a mixed case.

I'll open another BD bottle tonight and post a note. Maybe a Chardonnay.

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#66 Post by ykwon » April 4th, 2020, 5:36 pm

Five days. Wow.
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#67 Post by K Kl@dder » April 4th, 2020, 6:29 pm

Drinking a ‘12 RRV Pinot tonight, really don’t want to buy any more wine right now, but this is making it really tempting to jump on Fred’s offer for ‘13
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#68 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » April 4th, 2020, 6:36 pm

I'm going to break down for the Syrah, this being coastal Oregon and all that.
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#69 Post by brigcampbell » April 4th, 2020, 7:24 pm

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I'm going to break down for the Syrah, this being coastal Oregon and all that.
Fred if you're watching. Put half the good doctor's order on my credit card.

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#70 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » April 4th, 2020, 7:49 pm

Charge it to The Underhills.
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#71 Post by Diane Kessler » April 5th, 2020, 4:41 am

I opened a 2013 Hallberg Pinot Noir during the week. Ripe, but elegant with pomegranate, florals, and blood orange. Just what I want from Pinot. I have another bottle that I will leave for a while, as well as the ‘14 and ‘15 Hallberg from the Berserker Day order.

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#72 Post by dave kammerer » April 5th, 2020, 7:39 am

Ordered the 9 bottle sampler and 3 more of the Helfer chards. Everything Fred makes is fantastic!

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#73 Post by Viet Ly » April 7th, 2020, 6:05 pm

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I opened a 2013 Hallberg Pinot Noir during the week. Ripe, but elegant with pomegranate, florals, and blood orange. Just what I want from Pinot. I have another bottle that I will leave for a while, as well as the ‘14 and ‘15 Hallberg from the Berserker Day order.
Drinking the same wine today 👍

Best on third day for me. Sexy perfume of red fruit mixed with florals and spices. Initial taste in day one seemed reserved and slightly herbal, day two more exuberant with the fruit but today has a nice balance of the two. The Sonoma fruit quality front and center but also interesting notes of damp leaves/mushroom, some soy sauce and umami going on. Nicely balanced acid with a silky texture. Just a slight heat signature at the end which is a fine trade off for the mouthfeel/texture to me. Was supposed to drink this pour while I cooked dinner but I found myself sitting down to write this note and now I need to refill the glass to sip on while I cook. Thought provoking but delicious wine.

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#74 Post by brigcampbell » April 14th, 2020, 7:00 pm

Pobega!
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    Pulled the cork, well twisted the top, as the delivery guy drove off. Came cold in the case, nice.

    Light pink color pushing salmon. Fresh herb, Basil maybe, and light Berry and more melon like unripe cantaloupe.

    The palate has a strong mineral note, earthy, light red berries and stone fruit. Strong acid. It'll take you back to Aix-en-Provence and that cute little cafe where you first discovered French rosé.
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#75 Post by brigcampbell » April 19th, 2020, 7:13 pm

The wine was much more interesting than the tasting note.
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#76 Post by Bryan Price » April 19th, 2020, 8:41 pm

Anyone tried the 2014 pinots? How do they compare to 2013?
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#77 Post by Jud Reis » April 29th, 2020, 4:36 pm

2011 Scherrer Cabernet Scherrer Vineyard - Boy I can’t help but be reminded of the fantastic Jordan cabs of the late 70’s and early 80’s. White and bell pepper, limestone and a little black raspberry fruit on the nose. Beautifully textured smooth palate with limestone, white pepper and a sneaky black fruit on the finish. In a wonderful spot, but plenty of time left. Fred’s deftness with Pinot is showing up in the way this Cabernet is put together. The polar opposite of a Napa cab in so many wonderful ways.

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#78 Post by Fred Scherrer » May 15th, 2020, 12:05 pm

John Morris wrote:
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When Fred had a full beard he looked like a statue of the one of the apostles on a Gothic cathedral.... now he looks like somebody who plays pedal steel guitar in Fresno.
I thought you said I looked like a gargoyle.

Someday I'll play Fresno.
Be sure to offer tickets on Berserkers Day, Fred.
No need. Last night my good friend Michael Jordan MS and I did a piece for SommTable/Vinely: Interview plus a semi-live jam session. Jamming over the internet is a challenge. But we are on to something. Check it out if you are interested. The stream is a little glitchy here and there. We're not great but we have fun.


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#79 Post by Jud Reis » May 16th, 2020, 2:35 pm

2015 Scherrer Old & Mature Vines Zinfandel - This is really nice and just starting to enter its drinking window. Blackberry/blueberry fruit compote, black pepper and a touch of limestone on the nose. Lovely texture, resolved tannins and blackberry fruit with some prominent acidity on the finish. Will get a little more complexity and should be good for another 5-8 years at least. Going to be great with some burgers on the grill.

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#80 Post by brigcampbell » May 16th, 2020, 3:45 pm

Fred, need a Cello in the band? I know a guy.

Todd, bersekerfest up north combined with a jamfest. I know Michael Brown would be all in.

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#81 Post by David Baum » May 21st, 2020, 2:23 pm

Opened a 16 OMV Zin 2 nights ago. Recent CT notes were spot on. Had a glass Monday night and saved the rest for last night. It really needed that extra day open to strut its stuff. #2 of 12 btls I'll probably check in again next year. No hurry on these

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#82 Post by Jud Reis » May 23rd, 2020, 2:55 pm

2011 Platt Vineyard Pinot - Lovely red fruit, spice and sprucy underbrush on the nose. Nice red fruit, sour cranberry and spicy pepper on the palate. Not sure this is going to be the most long lived vintage of this wine, so I would drink in the next few years.

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#83 Post by Andrew Demaree » May 25th, 2020, 10:31 am

2019 Scherrer Dry Rosé

Just finished my first glass of this, which was opened to have with a baked penne pasta dish (w/ fennel & tarragon seasoned ground pork, arrabbiata sauce, cream, and topped with little balls of fresh mozzarella). It’s the perfect pairing for this kind of dish, and is the best rosé I’ve had in the last year or two. Lots of red berries & cherries with terrifically crisp acidity and a distinctly floral nose. Definitely worth the normal $24 asking price and an unbelievable deal during the recent 50% off offer. I thought I had plenty of rosé to get me through the summer, so only bought 3 bottles. HUGE mistake. Should’ve bought a case...and would likely still wish I had more.

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#84 Post by Curtis Chen » May 25th, 2020, 1:30 pm

Enjoyed the '13 OMV Zin so much that I placed the '14 and '15 at the back of my locker for extended aging.

Craved a Scherrer today, tried finding it, and no luck. Guess I should be honoring my original commitment. Ha. *tears*
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#85 Post by Diane Kessler » May 25th, 2020, 3:50 pm

Jud Reis wrote:
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2011 Platt Vineyard Pinot - Lovely red fruit, spice and sprucy underbrush on the nose. Nice red fruit, sour cranberry and spicy pepper on the palate. Not sure this is going to be the most long lived vintage of this wine, so I would drink in the next few years.

I just found the 2010 hiding in the cellar. I’ve been looking for it for sometime now. I plan to open it soon. I love what Fred does with Platt.

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#86 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » July 10th, 2020, 4:46 pm

Opened the first of 6 bottles of 2014 Scherrer Winery Zinfandel Scherrer Shale Terrace - AMAZING!!! Note to self: buy more Scherrer zin!

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#87 Post by JonathanG » July 10th, 2020, 7:56 pm

Just had another 2013 Platt Pinot tonight. Just can't get enough of that stuff.
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#88 Post by Fred Scherrer » July 12th, 2020, 11:04 am

Curtis Chen wrote:
May 25th, 2020, 1:30 pm
Enjoyed the '13 OMV Zin so much that I placed the '14 and '15 at the back of my locker for extended aging.

Craved a Scherrer today, tried finding it, and no luck. Guess I should be honoring my original commitment. Ha. *tears*
Curtis,

This is why so many folks buy by the case. They can watch the development and satisfy those cravings while still honoring the commitment of giving some bottles significant age. Futures has been a perfect way to accomplish this. You'll be getting the upcoming offering in a few days.

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#89 Post by Fred Scherrer » July 12th, 2020, 11:07 am

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
July 10th, 2020, 4:46 pm
Opened the first of 6 bottles of 2014 Scherrer Winery Zinfandel Scherrer Shale Terrace - AMAZING!!! Note to self: buy more Scherrer zin!
Sherri, I think you hit an optimal point to get into those for the first time. You'll know what to do with the rest based on this data. [wink.gif]

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#90 Post by Adam G » July 12th, 2020, 2:43 pm

I've enjoyed my single Scherrer experience thus far (2013 OMV Zin) and just happened on a couple bottles of 2001 Fort Ross Reserve Pinot Noir. I am very curious to see how these are doing!
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#91 Post by Jud Reis » July 12th, 2020, 6:45 pm

Adam - Fred doesn’t make those any more, but that was one of my favorite vineyards he worked with. You are in for a treat.

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#92 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » July 13th, 2020, 8:31 am

Fred Scherrer wrote:
July 12th, 2020, 11:07 am
Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
July 10th, 2020, 4:46 pm
Opened the first of 6 bottles of 2014 Scherrer Winery Zinfandel Scherrer Shale Terrace - AMAZING!!! Note to self: buy more Scherrer zin!
Sherri, I think you hit an optimal point to get into those for the first time. You'll know what to do with the rest based on this data. [wink.gif]

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You bet! I also have all the '14 old and mature vines alexander valley zins I bought too. Very happy to own these.

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#93 Post by Fred Scherrer » July 13th, 2020, 8:45 am

JonathanG wrote:
July 10th, 2020, 7:56 pm
Just had another 2013 Platt Pinot tonight. Just can't get enough of that stuff.
That wine is in a great zone these days. Should be for some time from here on out.

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#94 Post by David Baum » July 13th, 2020, 1:48 pm

Fred Scherrer wrote:
July 12th, 2020, 11:07 am
Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
July 10th, 2020, 4:46 pm
Opened the first of 6 bottles of 2014 Scherrer Winery Zinfandel Scherrer Shale Terrace - AMAZING!!! Note to self: buy more Scherrer zin!
Sherri, I think you hit an optimal point to get into those for the first time. You'll know what to do with the rest based on this data. [wink.gif]

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Totally unrelated but I opened my first Saturday night also. Saved a glass for last night and it was even better.

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#95 Post by M. Dildine » July 16th, 2020, 9:30 am

Any info on the futures release of ‘19 Zin?
Cheers,

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#96 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » July 16th, 2020, 10:22 am

David Baum wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 1:48 pm
Fred Scherrer wrote:
July 12th, 2020, 11:07 am
Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
July 10th, 2020, 4:46 pm
Opened the first of 6 bottles of 2014 Scherrer Winery Zinfandel Scherrer Shale Terrace - AMAZING!!! Note to self: buy more Scherrer zin!
Sherri, I think you hit an optimal point to get into those for the first time. You'll know what to do with the rest based on this data. [wink.gif]

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Totally unrelated but I opened my first Saturday night also. Saved a glass for last night and it was even better.
I don't think I am going to be able to hold off opening another bottle soon. So good.

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#97 Post by David Baum » July 16th, 2020, 1:43 pm

Sherri S h a p i r o wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 10:22 am
David Baum wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 1:48 pm
Fred Scherrer wrote:
July 12th, 2020, 11:07 am


Sherri, I think you hit an optimal point to get into those for the first time. You'll know what to do with the rest based on this data. [wink.gif]

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Totally unrelated but I opened my first Saturday night also. Saved a glass for last night and it was even better.
I don't think I am going to be able to hold off opening another bottle soon. So good.
Enabler! Just placed zin futures order

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Re: The Big Scherrer Tasting Note Thread

#98 Post by M. Dildine » July 16th, 2020, 2:05 pm

M. Dildine wrote:
July 16th, 2020, 9:30 am
Any info on the futures release of ‘19 Zin?
Just received the email, it is live!
Cheers,

Mike

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#99 Post by Roger Ouellette » August 10th, 2020, 3:46 pm

8/10/2020 - I LIKE THIS WINE: (Edit) 94 Points

Had this '04 Scherrer cab last night with some brisket. Just a fantastic wine, I really love Alexander Valley Cabs but even more so from Fred. For an '04 there's still loads of red and black fruit with little to no bricking in the glass, fine grained tannins and a nice zip of acid. This is like an Olympic gymnast vs a weight lifter - lean, muscular, svelte but well balanced without any one thing overly dominating.

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#100 Post by brigcampbell » November 15th, 2020, 11:15 am

Crushed a 2018 Dry Rosé last night with at home sushi with the Warden. Didn't write a formal note but good stuff.
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