TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

Tasting notes, varietals, grapes - anything related to wine
Post Reply
Message
Author
User avatar
Corey N.
Posts: 26933
Joined: November 18th, 2010, 8:36 pm
Location: Certainly NOT Orlando

TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

#1 Post by Corey N. » February 3rd, 2020, 7:59 am

  • 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes - France, Jura, Arbois (2/1/2020)
    Translucent and blood colored in the glass. Reductive on pop and pour. After a decant, high-toned red fruits, pomegranate, earth, orange rind, chicken butt and a bit of dirt. Light bodied with noticeable tannins.

    This is a wine that seems ever changing and it’s more interesting than delicious. It tastes a bit like an organic cider as much as it tastes like wine. Hard to rate/contextualize because the flavors are so atypical.
Posted from CellarTracker

I found this wine quite challenging. At times, it seemed like a science experiment gone bad. I have several more bottles, so I'll be interested to see where this goes if anywhere.

My favorite Tissot wine remains the Amphore, which i find texturally alluring.
WOTY: 2013 d’Yquem

Nøv¡¢k

Eric Lundblad
BerserkerBusiness
BerserkerBusiness
Posts: 1791
Joined: January 28th, 2009, 2:36 pm

Re: TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

#2 Post by Eric Lundblad » February 3rd, 2020, 10:23 am

Poulsard can do odd and unpleasant things when it's reductive...and 'a science experiment gone bad' is in that range. Course, things growing in there is a likely option too, but not necessarily...and air can help things (not always tho, of course :( ). Either way, sorry to hear it was a mess...I like Tissot.
Ladd Cellars
Winemaker & Owner

User avatar
jason stein
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 264
Joined: November 17th, 2016, 11:15 am
Location: Boston/NYC

Re: TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

#3 Post by jason stein » February 3rd, 2020, 10:32 am

Also sorry to hear, as I have a few bottles of this...

User avatar
Ramon C
Posts: 3924
Joined: October 23rd, 2010, 6:34 am

Re: TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

#4 Post by Ramon C » February 3rd, 2020, 1:45 pm

I find that for those few Jura producers I've experienced, their Poulsard-based wines can be wildly inconsistent from vintage-to-vintage. I know there may be differences in vintage conditions, but sometimes the inconsistencies are so wide that I wonder if they made major changes in their farming and/or wine-making styles to caused the differences.

Btw, can't quite put a finger on the descriptor below and if it's too personal then no need to respond. [cheers.gif]
Corey N. wrote:
February 3rd, 2020, 7:59 am
  • 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes - France, Jura, Arbois (2/1/2020)
    Translucent and blood colored in the glass. Reductive on pop and pour. After a decant, high-toned red fruits, pomegranate, earth, orange rind, chicken butt and a bit of dirt. Light bodied with noticeable tannins.

    This is a wine that seems ever changing and it’s more interesting than delicious. It tastes a bit like an organic cider as much as it tastes like wine. Hard to rate/contextualize because the flavors are so atypical.
Posted from CellarTracker
@brera

Greg Gardner
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 95
Joined: May 28th, 2009, 10:32 am
Location: Seattle

Re: TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

#5 Post by Greg Gardner » February 3rd, 2020, 1:59 pm

I've found Tissot's 'DD' rogue, (which I believe is a cofermented blend of Trousseau, Poulsard, and Pinot Noir) to be very reductive. It's clearly intended to be a glou glou, but it's so stinky due to the reductive aspect that it's kind of hard to take.

User avatar
Corey N.
Posts: 26933
Joined: November 18th, 2010, 8:36 pm
Location: Certainly NOT Orlando

Re: TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

#6 Post by Corey N. » February 3rd, 2020, 2:10 pm

Ramon C wrote:
February 3rd, 2020, 1:45 pm
I find that for those few Jura producers I've experienced, their Poulsard-based wines can be wildly inconsistent from vintage-to-vintage. I know there may be differences in vintage conditions, but sometimes the inconsistencies are so wide that I wonder if they made major changes in their farming and/or wine-making styles to caused the differences.

Btw, can't quite put a finger on the descriptor below and if it's too personal then no need to respond. [cheers.gif]
Corey N. wrote:
February 3rd, 2020, 7:59 am
  • 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes - France, Jura, Arbois (2/1/2020)
    Translucent and blood colored in the glass. Reductive on pop and pour. After a decant, high-toned red fruits, pomegranate, earth, orange rind, chicken butt and a bit of dirt. Light bodied with noticeable tannins.

    This is a wine that seems ever changing and it’s more interesting than delicious. It tastes a bit like an organic cider as much as it tastes like wine. Hard to rate/contextualize because the flavors are so atypical.
Posted from CellarTracker
Not too personal as it's not my butt (it's the chicken's). But it's not my descriptor, it's my better half's. She grew up in a Chinese-American home and she remembers eating the less desirable part of the chicken in her childhood. I believe that she and I were tasting the same thing, but for what it's worth, I would have used the descriptor "dirty diaper", or if I was feeling charitable "kombucha".
WOTY: 2013 d’Yquem

Nøv¡¢k

Greg Gardner
GCC Member
GCC Member
Posts: 95
Joined: May 28th, 2009, 10:32 am
Location: Seattle

Re: TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

#7 Post by Greg Gardner » February 3rd, 2020, 2:15 pm

Ji pigu (chicken butt) was one of the more desirable parts of the bird when I lived in Taiwan. I don't think I ever gave it a sniff, though.

User avatar
Ramon C
Posts: 3924
Joined: October 23rd, 2010, 6:34 am

Re: TN: 2018 Tissot (Bénédicte et Stéphane / André et Mireille) Poulsard Arbois Vieilles Vignes

#8 Post by Ramon C » February 3rd, 2020, 5:11 pm

Greg Gardner wrote:
February 3rd, 2020, 2:15 pm
I don't think I ever gave it a sniff, though.
That's what I was afraid that the TN was about.
@brera

Post Reply

Return to “Wine Talk”