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Maybach Coming

#1 Post by NED VALOIS » January 14th, 2020, 10:26 am

Greetings from the Winery.
With pleasure we announce our upcoming annual release.
Time: Tuesday, January 21, 2020 -- 9AM (PST)

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2017 Materium Cabernet
2017 Amoenus Cabernet
2018 Eterium Sonoma Coast Chardonnay
2018 Irmgard Sonoma Coast Pinot Noir

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#2 Post by Alex G » January 14th, 2020, 10:28 am

I think the Dunnuck review is the only one that's out?
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#3 Post by Jeff_M. » January 14th, 2020, 10:37 am

Got this and a Scarecrow email within minutes of one another. Really interested to see more 17' notes.
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#4 Post by SeanHarding » January 14th, 2020, 10:53 am

I will always buy Materium. The Amoenus and Eterium depend on my budget and mood each year...

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#5 Post by del.yap » January 14th, 2020, 10:54 am

Alex G wrote:
January 14th, 2020, 10:28 am
I think the Dunnuck review is the only one that's out?
Wine Advocate also rated it.

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#6 Post by luc@sl@belle » January 14th, 2020, 10:57 am

Can someone share the scores form WA and JD please?

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#7 Post by Benny P » January 14th, 2020, 11:08 am

Does anyone know how long the approximate wait list is? I finally got my first taste of Maybach last year and immediately signed up but just curious how long I'd have to wait.
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#8 Post by robkim » January 14th, 2020, 12:08 pm

WA 92-94+

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#9 Post by ykwon » January 14th, 2020, 12:21 pm

Going to be a brutal quarter
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#10 Post by Jeff_M. » January 14th, 2020, 12:28 pm

ykwon wrote:
January 14th, 2020, 12:21 pm
Going to be a brutal quarter
100% this. Trying real hard not to buy anything that I'm not already buying.
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#11 Post by ykwon » January 14th, 2020, 12:49 pm

Jeff_M. wrote:
January 14th, 2020, 12:28 pm
ykwon wrote:
January 14th, 2020, 12:21 pm
Going to be a brutal quarter
100% this. Trying real hard not to buy anything that I'm not already buying.
I had my purchase mapped out from prior year. Don’t think it’s going to help!
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#12 Post by Jeff_M. » January 14th, 2020, 1:06 pm

ykwon wrote:
January 14th, 2020, 12:49 pm
Jeff_M. wrote:
January 14th, 2020, 12:28 pm
ykwon wrote:
January 14th, 2020, 12:21 pm
Going to be a brutal quarter
100% this. Trying real hard not to buy anything that I'm not already buying.
I had my purchase mapped out from prior year. Don’t think it’s going to help!
HA! Last year was a crazy buying year for me. Luckily for my wallet a lot of that was from Napa trips. Scaling way back on visits this year and focusing on the wines I've been buying for multiple vintages so I have a nice vertical collection to drink through.

First quarter is always tough because of the amount of cabernet releases. Saxum would have zapped me hard today if I was on the active list.
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#13 Post by SeanHarding » January 15th, 2020, 11:52 am

I just bought a new house and am working on filling it with furniture, so this is definitely not an ideal time for these releases to be coming budget-wise...

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#14 Post by luc@sl@belle » January 15th, 2020, 8:04 pm

What was JDs review on these?

Thanks!

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#15 Post by Jake Rubash » January 15th, 2020, 8:40 pm

luc@sl@belle wrote:
January 15th, 2020, 8:04 pm
What was JDs review on these?

Thanks!
Amoenus: 93-95
Materium: 96-98

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#16 Post by dennis.coronado » January 21st, 2020, 9:12 am

Maybach is open!

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#17 Post by Chris S p i k e s » January 21st, 2020, 10:10 am

dennis.coronado wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 9:12 am
Maybach is open!
Are the allocations guaranteed for a certain time? Didn't seem to say in the email.

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#18 Post by Joe B » January 21st, 2020, 10:14 am

Took my usual three bottles of Materium.
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#19 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » January 21st, 2020, 10:18 am

Passing this year.

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#20 Post by NED VALOIS » January 21st, 2020, 10:51 am

IN FOR 6,6 & 3

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#21 Post by NickRut » January 21st, 2020, 5:03 pm

2017 Maybach or 2017 outpost true. Hmm 🤔🤔
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#22 Post by Bud Carey » January 21st, 2020, 5:16 pm

Easy pass for me.
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#23 Post by Ian S » January 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm

NickRut wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 5:03 pm
2017 Maybach or 2017 outpost true. Hmm 🤔🤔
Isn't Outpost a Constellation brand now? Is Maybach still independent? If yes to both, it's easy-peasy.
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#24 Post by Tom Simons » January 22nd, 2020, 7:22 am

Whats the thought process behind people passing this year? Usually I see most people saying that they are dedicated annual purchasers. Is this a particular issue with 2017 Napa? Or something in particular with Maybach? Is it $20 more than last year? I can't remember.

As for me, it looks like I've just gotten my biggest allocation ever. Don't think I'll be dropping $5k on this, but I will almost certainly be picking up my obligatory few bottles of Materium and Amoenus.

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#25 Post by Scott Jameson » January 22nd, 2020, 7:32 am

Ian S wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 5:51 pm
NickRut wrote:
January 21st, 2020, 5:03 pm
2017 Maybach or 2017 outpost true. Hmm 🤔🤔
Isn't Outpost a Constellation brand now? Is Maybach still independent? If yes to both, it's easy-peasy.
Outpost was sold to AXA Millésimes, the wine division of a French insurance company.

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#26 Post by Scott Jameson » January 22nd, 2020, 7:46 am

Tom Simons wrote:
January 22nd, 2020, 7:22 am
Whats the thought process behind people passing this year? Usually I see most people saying that they are dedicated annual purchasers. Is this a particular issue with 2017 Napa? Or something in particular with Maybach? Is it $20 more than last year? I can't remember.

As for me, it looks like I've just gotten my biggest allocation ever. Don't think I'll be dropping $5k on this, but I will almost certainly be picking up my obligatory few bottles of Materium and Amoenus.
The price, at least for the Materium, is the same as it's been the last 2 vintages. Looking at my records, it looks like the price last increased $10 from the 2014 vintage release to the 2015.

I've been a buyer since the 2004 release, and have enjoyed all the Maybach we've opened over the years. I'm struggling with what to order, if any, this year. It's primarily my personal circumstances, though. I'm retiring very soon and I don't see a lot of room for $200 Cabs in my budget any more. We do have 55 bottles of Maybach Cab in the cellar, so I expect we'll be drinking them for at least the next decade.

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#27 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » January 22nd, 2020, 8:54 am

Tom Simons wrote:
January 22nd, 2020, 7:22 am
Whats the thought process behind people passing this year?
Honestly, for me it’s that the scores seem lower than past releases. I‘m not confident 2017 is a great
vintage and given Napa doesn’t adjust pricing like Bordeaux, I’m passing. If I’m going to spend $200 on a bottle of wine, it better be damn near perfect.

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#28 Post by Brad S c h i e r » January 22nd, 2020, 11:44 am

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote:
January 22nd, 2020, 8:54 am
Tom Simons wrote:
January 22nd, 2020, 7:22 am
Whats the thought process behind people passing this year?
Honestly, for me it’s that the scores seem lower than past releases. I‘m not confident 2017 is a great
vintage and given Napa doesn’t adjust pricing like Bordeaux, I’m passing. If I’m going to spend $200 on a bottle of wine, it better be damn near perfect.
Ditto for me. Basically my rule on 2017 is that I have to taste it first. We are not making the treck this year to Napa so with a variable vintage, and a monster 2018 vintage, I am passing and saving coin for the 2018s. As a side note - for 2017, I am more concerned about the heat spike vs the smoke - as I assume in high end names, they would not risk putting out smoke tainted wine. I just hope I do not get dropped for passing on one vintage as I do enjoy the wines and will buy 2018 for sure..

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#29 Post by NED VALOIS » January 22nd, 2020, 12:32 pm

Short wish list granted !

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#30 Post by KenL. » January 22nd, 2020, 1:06 pm

In for 3 Materium.
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#31 Post by Frank Z » January 23rd, 2020, 12:41 pm

Just got an offer today. Does this mean I'm off the waitlist?

Thinking about going in for the Materium 375s.
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#32 Post by Rob_S » January 23rd, 2020, 1:17 pm

Frank Z wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 12:41 pm
Just got an offer today. Does this mean I'm off the waitlist?

Thinking about going in for the Materium 375s.
the 375s are a great buy and I wish more would do them!
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#33 Post by Frank Z » January 23rd, 2020, 1:23 pm

Rob_S wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 1:17 pm
Frank Z wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 12:41 pm
Just got an offer today. Does this mean I'm off the waitlist?

Thinking about going in for the Materium 375s.
the 375s are a great buy and I wish more would do them!
I had purchased (4) splits of 2016 Materium last year through another member, but since this was my first year officially on the list, I ended up grabbing my (2) allocated splits of 2017 Materium. Looking forward to next year's release.
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#34 Post by John Flanagan » January 23rd, 2020, 4:59 pm

$18/bottle shipping to NJ (3 bottles) is really giving me pause. No indication if this is for 2nd day air or ground. Emailed the winery to clarify, but if this is the ground cost I may be out this round.

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#35 Post by ykwon » January 23rd, 2020, 7:13 pm

John Flanagan wrote:
January 23rd, 2020, 4:59 pm
$18/bottle shipping to NJ (3 bottles) is really giving me pause. No indication if this is for 2nd day air or ground. Emailed the winery to clarify, but if this is the ground cost I may be out this round.
I didn’t see a ground option. I believe it’s two day air. It was approximately $13/bottle to TX.
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#36 Post by blarmston » January 23rd, 2020, 8:38 pm

It was a bit pricey to ship four bottles and six splits to San Diego, but 2-5-10 years down the line, when I pop that cork, I’m certain that it’ll be all worth it.

Maybach is some quality juice.
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#37 Post by Craig G » January 23rd, 2020, 8:42 pm

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I just bought a new house and am working on filling it with furniture, so this is definitely not an ideal time for these releases to be coming budget-wise...
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#38 Post by NED VALOIS » March 5th, 2020, 12:49 pm

'17 Maybach home in SOFLA today ! [cheers.gif]

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#39 Post by NickRut » March 5th, 2020, 1:28 pm

First CT review looked promising.
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#40 Post by Frank Z » March 5th, 2020, 4:10 pm

After a huge fiasco with Fedex saying it missed the cutoff in the morning and that it would be delivered tomorrow then having it delivered today in the afternoon 83 degree heat, I’m concerned that the bottles have been sitting on the truck for way too long. The bottles (I only ordered 375mls) were warm to the touch (I put them into my cellar as soon as I returned home) and the ice pack that they included in the styrofoam box was completely melted and warm as well. Upon comparing the corks/capsule with the (3) remaining 2016 Materiums 375mls that I have stored in my cellar, the corks on the 2017 that I received today seem slightly higher, but, still relatively flush with the lip. Of course, that just may be standard deviation of the bottling process, and not true cause for concern.

I’m upset with Fedex and the shipper reached out to them, but I will be reaching out to Chris as well to express my concern. I just wanted to see if you would all be concerned as well if this was the case? Thanks!
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#41 Post by blarmston » March 5th, 2020, 6:17 pm

My expected shipment also didn’t arrive from FedEx today. The tracker showed that it was out for delivery. It’s a bit less of a concern since I live in San Diego, and it only reached 67 today, but still...
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#42 Post by Frank Z » March 10th, 2020, 7:42 am

Frank Z wrote:
March 5th, 2020, 4:10 pm
After a huge fiasco with Fedex saying it missed the cutoff in the morning and that it would be delivered tomorrow then having it delivered today in the afternoon 83 degree heat, I’m concerned that the bottles have been sitting on the truck for way too long. The bottles (I only ordered 375mls) were warm to the touch (I put them into my cellar as soon as I returned home) and the ice pack that they included in the styrofoam box was completely melted and warm as well. Upon comparing the corks/capsule with the (3) remaining 2016 Materiums 375mls that I have stored in my cellar, the corks on the 2017 that I received today seem slightly higher, but, still relatively flush with the lip. Of course, that just may be standard deviation of the bottling process, and not true cause for concern.

I’m upset with Fedex and the shipper reached out to them, but I will be reaching out to Chris as well to express my concern. I just wanted to see if you would all be concerned as well if this was the case? Thanks!
Just wanted to update that the bottles will be replaced and I was also able to add an 750mL bottle to my order as well. I can't sing enough praises about the customer service. Looking forward for my new shipment.
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#43 Post by J. Rock » March 10th, 2020, 9:20 am

I had the 2017 Materium on Sunday and was really blown away, although, I have to admit it's my first Maybach. It was great right out of the bottle and continued to improve and improve some more over the next couple of hours. I was surprised it's drinking so well right upon release. I understand the hype now.
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#44 Post by blarmston » March 10th, 2020, 10:07 am

TRB makes some delicious wines, but in my opinion, the Maybach wines are Top of Class.
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