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#1 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 4th, 2020, 7:14 am

2000 Domaine du Pégau Châteauneuf-du-Pape Cuvée Réservée - France, Rhône, Southern Rhône, Châteauneuf-du-Pape (1/3/2020)
2000 Pegau continues a wandering journey that exposes different aspects depending on which bottle I open. This bottle was not ready to go when I opened it (unlike my last two years ago), but over the course of three hours it blossomed into a perfumed yet still fruity gem that hinted of greater pleasures to come. Starting out tight, and focused on crunchy red fruit, the leathery, herbal, and earthy elements took nearly two hours to come out. The last glass, consumed at the three hour mark, had everything together, and made me regret not decanting. No need to hurry with this. It has a long road ahead.

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#2 Post by Nicos Neocleous » January 4th, 2020, 7:26 am

A most enjoyable wine!
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#3 Post by dcornutt » January 4th, 2020, 7:29 am

I love this wine.
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#4 Post by Pat Martin » January 4th, 2020, 7:51 am

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#5 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » January 4th, 2020, 7:57 am

I need to backfill on 2000 and 2001. I’m all out. Found a place that has some plus the 1998. How is the 98?

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#6 Post by Gerhard P. » January 4th, 2020, 8:05 am

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#7 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 4th, 2020, 8:16 am

Haven’t had the 1998 in a long time. I have two left. Should grab one soon.
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#8 Post by Ramon C » January 4th, 2020, 8:47 am

The 1998 Pegau Reservee was among the top 3 by our group during a CdP dinner back in November last year. We had a mixed bag of mostly Pegau, Beaucastel, Clos des Papes and Rayas-Pignan from 1990 to 2006.

Others in the top 3 were the 1999 Beaucastel Hommage and the 1990 Clos des Papes.
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#9 Post by John Morris » January 4th, 2020, 9:05 am

I had a 2000 Dom. de la Vieille Julienne a month ago that showed very well. I wasn't following CdP that much twenty years ago, but am I right that the vintage wasn't very well regarded at the time?
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#10 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 4th, 2020, 9:16 am

It was reasonably well regarded, but mostly as a drink soon because it’s so fun now year. 1998 and 2001 have been the “old bones” years in the lovely 1998-2001 quartet.
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#11 Post by John Morris » January 4th, 2020, 9:33 am

OK. I guess that's what I'm remembering. It certainly never had the reputation of '98 or '01.
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#12 Post by Carl I Steefel » January 4th, 2020, 1:07 pm

I had two cases of 2000 Pegau Reservee in the olden days (back when my original WineBerserker moniker still worked), and I would agree that it never measured up to the 1998 or 2001, but it was pretty dad-burned good at the time. However, most of my bottles turned south (oxidation) some years ago. Cannot blame this on importing (imported by the lady who imported Pegau out of Marin County, forgot her name), or on my own cellar (plus or minus 1C for 10-15 years), so it must have had something to do with the treatment in the store hear in the Northern California East Bay. But then, Grenache is well known to be on the fragile side, so the oxidation might make sense.

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#13 Post by Arv R » March 12th, 2020, 10:27 pm

I had a bottle of the 2000 Pegau tonight and it was slightly off, a touch bretty. With decanting it mostly blew off and showed a bloody, barny nose with decent fruit underneath. Great mature coloration. I liked it better when younger, maybe 5-10 years ago. I agree that it was not in the same league as 98 or 01. I also think the 99 ended up being much better than I realized upon release. I'd thought those were more in the guzzle up category and consumed them all by age 10 or so, but they were really so balanced.

For my tastes, and my stash, it's time to finish them up. I'd give this bottle a B, disappointing in the context of what it has been, or can be.
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#14 Post by George Chadwick » March 12th, 2020, 11:10 pm

Sounds consistent progress-wise with the following experience, had the 1990 for Valentine's Day and it was fully expressed, perfect.

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#15 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 13th, 2020, 4:41 am

20 years in, and we are probably into “no good wines only good bottles.” I would expect the 2000 to show a lack of consistency from here on out.
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#16 Post by Marc Frontario » March 13th, 2020, 8:16 pm

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I need to backfill on 2000 and 2001. I’m all out. Found a place that has some plus the 1998. How is the 98?
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#17 Post by Carl Steefel » March 14th, 2020, 9:21 am

Too bad, could have sold you my roasted wines...

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#18 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 14th, 2020, 9:39 am

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Too bad, could have sold you my roasted wines...
You mention potential oxidation above, but nobody else seems to be dealing with that. So heat damage then?
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#19 Post by Carl Steefel » March 14th, 2020, 11:22 am

I never heated them. They were a direct import from Martine's Wine (in Marin County) to a store in Pleasanton. I suppose the store could have roasted them, but I don't think they were there too long. If nobody else was having this problem, then maybe that implicates the store??

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#20 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 14th, 2020, 11:26 am

That would be my guess. Or a delivery truck with a broken cooling unit.
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#21 Post by Pat Martin » March 14th, 2020, 1:10 pm

In recent years, I’ve been enjoying my 2000 CDPs as much or more than many of my 2001 CDPs
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#22 Post by Arv R » March 14th, 2020, 6:02 pm

It's kind of weird - of those amazing four years 98, 99, 00, and 01 -- I have found with the fullness of time that the 2000's are the ones I least love. The 98's have delivered as expected while the 99's (drunk too young!) did better than I would have thought.

But at this point, even with my known storage, I have plenty of bottle variation. And most of these are running low now, and I would personally NOT reload on them. I find Rhones to be less consistent when backfilled. (plus I think there's plenty of good current Rhones on the shelf now)
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#23 Post by Carl Steefel » March 14th, 2020, 6:14 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
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That would be my guess. Or a delivery truck with a broken cooling unit.
Could be I guess. Retailer will never say for sure...

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#24 Post by Carl Steefel » July 5th, 2020, 5:25 pm

2001 Pegau Cuvee Reservee: From the private cellar of a local prominent retailer, this is so fresh and lively, convinces me that my bottles of this wine (which I personally stored very carefully) were compromised by the retailer presumably. This is one is so fresh and lively, extravagant aromas of red maraschino cherry and strawberry infused with fragrant garrigue for 20 or so years. Such a perfect balance of sweet candied red fruit that lingers on the palate, extended and transformed by deft touch of acidity The red-fruited underbrush aromas present themselves with an almost Oriental spice character. Powerful, intense, but perfectly balanced between the initial attack and the long finish, this removes any doubt I had about the benefit of aging these...

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#25 Post by Arv R » October 17th, 2020, 4:56 pm

Arv R wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:27 pm
I had a bottle of the 2000 Pegau tonight and it was slightly off, a touch bretty. With decanting it mostly blew off and showed a bloody, barny nose with decent fruit underneath. Great mature coloration. I liked it better when younger, maybe 5-10 years ago. I agree that it was not in the same league as 98 or 01. I also think the 99 ended up being much better than I realized upon release. I'd thought those were more in the guzzle up category and consumed them all by age 10 or so, but they were really so balanced.

For my tastes, and my stash, it's time to finish them up. I'd give this bottle a B, disappointing in the context of what it has been, or can be.
I just uncorked my last bottle of the 2000 Pegau [CNDP] and this bottle - purchased at the same time + cellared the same as the one above - is also on the downswing. A bit of a bummer, but I wasn't expecting it to be all that exciting. For casual Saturday afternoon quaffing while doing household chores, and random kitchen week ahead prep (salting a pork shoulder, slow cooking San Marzanos etc.) I might have been happier with a young Cotes du Rhone rather than this. There's a lot of funk on this as it gets more air.

Generalizing, I have preferred 1999 over the 2000 CNDPs, a result I would not have expected when laying the fine quartet of 1998-2001 SoRho's down. I've only really reloaded on 2007, 2010, 2015 and a tiny bit of 2016 since then.

Even though I stood the bottle up for a couple of weeks....the sediment is prodigious.

Look at the upper right side of the bottle...I'm sure it will be even more as I drink more and can see the rest of the bottle.
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#26 Post by Kris Patten » October 17th, 2020, 5:20 pm

Arv R wrote:
October 17th, 2020, 4:56 pm
Arv R wrote:
March 12th, 2020, 10:27 pm
I had a bottle of the 2000 Pegau tonight and it was slightly off, a touch bretty. With decanting it mostly blew off and showed a bloody, barny nose with decent fruit underneath. Great mature coloration. I liked it better when younger, maybe 5-10 years ago. I agree that it was not in the same league as 98 or 01. I also think the 99 ended up being much better than I realized upon release. I'd thought those were more in the guzzle up category and consumed them all by age 10 or so, but they were really so balanced.

For my tastes, and my stash, it's time to finish them up. I'd give this bottle a B, disappointing in the context of what it has been, or can be.
I just uncorked my last bottle of the 2000 Pegau [CNDP] and this bottle - purchased at the same time + cellared the same as the one above - is also on the downswing. A bit of a bummer, but I wasn't expecting it to be all that exciting. For casual Saturday afternoon quaffing while doing household chores, and random kitchen week ahead prep (salting a pork shoulder, slow cooking San Marzanos etc.) I might have been happier with a young Cotes du Rhone rather than this. There's a lot of funk on this as it gets more air.

Generalizing, I have preferred 1999 over the 2000 CNDPs, a result I would not have expected when laying the fine quartet of 1998-2001 SoRho's down. I've only really reloaded on 2007, 2010, 2015 and a tiny bit of 2016 since then.

Even though I stood the bottle up for a couple of weeks....the sediment is prodigious.

Look at the upper right side of the bottle...I'm sure it will be even more as I drink more and can see the rest of the bottle.

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I have come to find I like CdP from 10-15 years from vintage and younger, not much older unless it's Rayas. Testing this thesis with some Mordoree Reine des Bois, the 2001 is bulletproof, it just won't budge.
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#27 Post by Dan Kravitz » October 17th, 2020, 5:41 pm

commercial post: I import Pegau to most of the U.S. The opinions below are mine and are worth every penny they cost you.

I like the 2000 vintage, but it is NOT a vintage to make old bones. The underrated 1999 will be longer lived, although not by much. 1998 and 2001 are long-distance runners. Good provenance and cellaring, blahblahblah, both easily have a decade of evolution left.
All of these vintages are thoroughly enjoyable, fully secondary today, but 2000 is the least of them. I have a few bottles left, will drink them over the next couple of years without regret. 2000 da Capo will still improve, but it's not something I would want to hold for another 10 years. This was a fine and friendly vintage, but lacked the density of 1998 and 2001. 1999 was firmer. I preferred 2000 over the last decade, but today 1999 is better. If anybody still has any, 1994 is a glory today. It's fully mature but not in a rush and now special occasion wine.

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#28 Post by Leonard Maran » October 17th, 2020, 5:53 pm

I knew I had 4 bottles of the 2000 in my cellar, and finally when I moved I found them. I wasn’t expecting much cause I knew the vintage would not make old bones, unlike 2001 and 1998. The wine was not flawed in any way, just felt it was a little flabby. Sold the rest.

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