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Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: April 10th, 2020, 12:48 pm
Sh@n A wrote: March 6th, 2020, 8:48 pm Anyone have the 2016 Vietti Castiglione to compare against the Produtorri? Similarish price point (Vietti seems to be coming mid-$40s).

Or a general comment on how the Produtorri will stack up against normales from the '16 vintage?
Bump on this question. I've stocked up on the '16 Produttori, but wondering if I should buy more or go in for a case of the '16 Vietti Castiglione?
I picked up a few bottles of the Vietti the other day. Costs $54 locally. Certainly a different expression than the Produttori, with a little more density and a darker fruit profile, but I've enjoyed it enough in the past to grab a few 16s without bothering to open one. I assume that the serious Piedmont folks here are fans (at the given the price point), but will, of course, be curious to see what they have to say.
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#102 Post by Martin Zwick »

Had this Barbaresco in the last 2 days and I really recommend to open a bottle in the coming days, as it is such open and a great pleasure to drink. Why wait, I am not 20 anymore. haha

Besides the classic flavors of tar, roses, strawberry and licorice, the wine has a wonderful balance&grace.

Anyway one of the best value in Piedmont for 30€ in Germany.

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#103 Post by Sh@n A »

eweininger wrote: April 10th, 2020, 3:03 pm
Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote: April 10th, 2020, 12:48 pm
Sh@n A wrote: March 6th, 2020, 8:48 pm Anyone have the 2016 Vietti Castiglione to compare against the Produtorri? Similarish price point (Vietti seems to be coming mid-$40s).

Or a general comment on how the Produtorri will stack up against normales from the '16 vintage?
Bump on this question. I've stocked up on the '16 Produttori, but wondering if I should buy more or go in for a case of the '16 Vietti Castiglione?
I picked up a few bottles of the Vietti the other day. Costs $54 locally. Certainly a different expression than the Produttori, with a little more density and a darker fruit profile, but I've enjoyed it enough in the past to grab a few 16s without bothering to open one. I assume that the serious Piedmont folks here are fans (at the given the price point), but will, of course, be curious to see what they have to say.
I tried the Vietti and agree with your comments. That is the one I am going to cellar. Excellent value on the Vietti as well (I paid a little less than 50)
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I had a bottle at the week-end and I have to say it looks like that it is starting to shut down. Much better 1 year ago.
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#105 Post by F.Daner »

I had the 12 this weekend and it really was in a great spot. I expect to leave the 16's alone for a few years. What a vintage for Piedmont !
Martin Zwick wrote: January 12th, 2021, 2:19 am P.S.

I had a bottle at the week-end and I have to say it looks like that it is starting to shut down. Much better 1 year ago.
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#106 Post by L. Bryant »

So I stocked up on the 2015 normales and my cellar is already bulging. I've not yet been able to taste the vintages side-by-side and have no experience to know how they'd compare "at peak", but can anyone attest as to whether the 16's are THAT much better/special than 2015?
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L. Bryant wrote: January 12th, 2021, 5:44 pm So I stocked up on the 2015 normales and my cellar is already bulging. I've not yet been able to taste the vintages side-by-side and have no experience to know how they'd compare "at peak", but can anyone attest as to whether the 16's are THAT much better/special than 2015?
I have, but the 2015 was corked, so not much data on that.

However, in that tasting 2016 was simply outstanding. Seemed to be the unanimous favorite of the younger PdBs we had there. The hype is real.

I haven't tasted many Langhe reds where I'd say 2015 would be more ageworthy than 2016. Most wines feel like the 2016s are still going to be mere babies by the time the 2015s are at peak. As far as I've tasted, I haven't been particularly fond of 2015 and not have bought really any, preferring to taste them rather than buy them.

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Otto Forsberg wrote: January 13th, 2021, 2:33 pm
L. Bryant wrote: January 12th, 2021, 5:44 pm So I stocked up on the 2015 normales and my cellar is already bulging. I've not yet been able to taste the vintages side-by-side and have no experience to know how they'd compare "at peak", but can anyone attest as to whether the 16's are THAT much better/special than 2015?
I have, but the 2015 was corked, so not much data on that.

However, in that tasting 2016 was simply outstanding. Seemed to be the unanimous favorite of the younger PdBs we had there. The hype is real.

I haven't tasted many Langhe reds where I'd say 2015 would be more ageworthy than 2016. Most wines feel like the 2016s are still going to be mere babies by the time the 2015s are at peak. As far as I've tasted, I haven't been particularly fond of 2015 and not have bought really any, preferring to taste them rather than buy them.
Thanks and noted! I saw your vertical notes and was also bummed that the 15 was corked :/
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Not sure if this is realistic, but hoping to one day backfill the 2016 at a reasonable price.

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Fred Davis wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:51 am Not sure if this is realistic, but hoping to one day backfill the 2016 at a reasonable price.
I really had to hunt to find it at $35/bottle
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Max S. wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:54 am
Fred Davis wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:51 am Not sure if this is realistic, but hoping to one day backfill the 2016 at a reasonable price.
I really had to hunt to find it at $35/bottle
Looks like a nice buy now!

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Max S. wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:54 am
Fred Davis wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:51 am Not sure if this is realistic, but hoping to one day backfill the 2016 at a reasonable price.
I really had to hunt to find it at $35/bottle
This was the one deal that wine.com was killing on last year when you factor in the coupons. I was stocking up at sub $30. [cheers.gif]
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Dennis Atick wrote: January 19th, 2021, 6:26 am
Max S. wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:54 am
Fred Davis wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:51 am Not sure if this is realistic, but hoping to one day backfill the 2016 at a reasonable price.
I really had to hunt to find it at $35/bottle
This was the one deal that wine.com was killing on last year when you factor in the coupons. I was stocking up at sub $30. [cheers.gif]
Son of a gun. I might try wine.com free shipping this year. I did WineLibrary last year which was great, but the coupons for wine.com seem to be what makes it killer.
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Dennis Atick wrote: January 19th, 2021, 6:26 am
Max S. wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:54 am
Fred Davis wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:51 am Not sure if this is realistic, but hoping to one day backfill the 2016 at a reasonable price.
I really had to hunt to find it at $35/bottle
This was the one deal that wine.com was killing on last year when you factor in the coupons. I was stocking up at sub $30. [cheers.gif]
I tried to do that but on the east coast the price was higher than the west coast so i held off. then the wine disappeared!

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Dennis Atick wrote: January 19th, 2021, 6:26 am
Max S. wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:54 am
Fred Davis wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:51 am Not sure if this is realistic, but hoping to one day backfill the 2016 at a reasonable price.
I really had to hunt to find it at $35/bottle
This was the one deal that wine.com was killing on last year when you factor in the coupons. I was stocking up at sub $30. [cheers.gif]
To all those who can't find it for a great deal, stick around WB as Attick will be offering it on Commerce Corner in a few years, and he's a great seller [cheers.gif]
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#116 Post by Dennis Atick »

Todd F r e n c h wrote: January 19th, 2021, 7:52 am
Dennis Atick wrote: January 19th, 2021, 6:26 am
Max S. wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:54 am

I really had to hunt to find it at $35/bottle
This was the one deal that wine.com was killing on last year when you factor in the coupons. I was stocking up at sub $30. [cheers.gif]
To all those who can't find it for a great deal, stick around WB as Attick will be offering it on Commerce Corner in a few years, and he's a great seller [cheers.gif]
LOL LOL
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#117 Post by John Morris »

Bottle King in NJ, which had it for $35, has moved on to the 2017.
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#118 Post by Jeff Vaughan »

I see that Morrell and Co. has the 2016 PdB Montestefano, pre-arrival, at $99. I didn't check on the other crus. I figured there would be an increase in price, but was not expecting them to be near $100. I hoping that my normal sources have them around $75, but we shall see. I will pass at $99.
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#119 Post by Arv R »

Costco #471 has the 2016 normale for $36.

I passed, and honestly, have not liked how the 2010 is developing so far.
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#120 Post by D@vid Bu3ker »

Arv R wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:18 pm Costco #471 has the 2016 normale for $36.

I passed, and honestly, have not liked how the 2010 is developing so far.
Not that 2010 and 2016 are remotely similar...
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#121 Post by Otto Forsberg »

D@vid Bu3ker wrote: January 19th, 2021, 5:20 pm Not that 2010 and 2016 are remotely similar...
This.

2016 is a thoroughbred classic vintage. Easily a Riserva vintage for PdB.
2010 was less successful in Barbaresco (compared to Barolo, which performed better that year) and PdB did not choose to bottle Riservas, instead blending all the Barbaresco-level wines together.

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