'05 Pegau - 3L

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'05 Pegau - 3L

#1 Post by T. Williams » November 13th, 2019, 6:27 pm

I found a bottle of Domaine de Pegau Chateauneuf du Pape Cuvee Reservee 2005 3Liter for $329. It feels like a good deal, I like Pegau, but it is really hard to justify an event where I will need 4 bottles of CdP. Do I get a few and hold them in the cellar for event I don't know about or is the big bottle crush just a pass?

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#2 Post by Bob Watt » November 13th, 2019, 7:27 pm

You will have plenty of time for the '05, slow maturing vintage (for my taste). I wouldn't open a 3L for at least 5 years. Enjoy.
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#3 Post by Peter Hirsch » November 14th, 2019, 3:23 am

I like the big bottles. Lots of fun when you have a bunch of people over to your house/apt or a big group at a restaurant. The big bottle is always a hit with the crowd...

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#4 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » November 14th, 2019, 3:38 am

I would love a huge bottle like this for my family thanksgiving or Xmas dinner gatherings. CDP is an easy sell!

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#5 Post by Jonathan Loesberg » November 14th, 2019, 6:01 am

Look for an 04 or an 06. 05 has a hard tannic edge that I am not optimistic it will lose. Remember the 95 and beware.

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#6 Post by R Roberts » November 14th, 2019, 7:30 am

I barely find opportunities to open the magnums I have, can't imagine a 3L. These days I'd much rather open several different wines than one big bottle of the same. YMMV.

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#7 Post by Brandon R » November 14th, 2019, 7:56 am

Like others have said, large family gatherings are perfect occasions to open large formats and a 3L would be great for, say, a dozen people. Buy it.
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#8 Post by Gerhard P. » November 14th, 2019, 9:03 am

You "found" it, so you haven´t purchased it yet?

I cannot help you with an opportunity to open it, but what I´ve got to say:
I have a lot of Pegau of almost every vintage and every cuvée ever produced, I have a few mags but not a single 3 L bottle.
I wouldn´t know when to open it, too.
But some people like to have a lot of wine, nothing wrong with that.

However, the 2005 is barely fully mature in 0.75s - so I would at least wait another 10 years, better 15y.
The price seems to be good though.
I agree that other vintages in double mags would be a better choce for NOW. I would love to have a 1981, 1985/89/90 in a mag ... or a 1994 or 1998 ...

These big formats have all been filled, corked, labelled and waxed manually - they don´t fit in any machine ...
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#9 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » November 14th, 2019, 9:38 am

Holiday parties also seem like a good place for a 3L

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#10 Post by Dan Kravitz » November 15th, 2019, 4:12 pm

commercial post: I import Pegau to most of the U.S.

I agree that this is a tough, tannic vintage that will age almost forever in a large format.

Two possibilities:

1) Buy and hold with the idea that a Special Occasion will Occur in the next 10 - 20 years, and it will be glorious.
2) Plan to crack it open when you have at least 4 - 6 people to get through half of it. The remaining half should be good or maybe better (especially if refrigerated) for at least a few days after opening. And/or you can have clean empty bottles handy when you open it. Fill two or three of them, put decent corks in them and enjoy one at a time over the next week or two.

I do this a lot with big formats as I own more of them than I need. I buy them for use at my sales meetings, then realize that a basic Mondavi Napa Pinot Noir I've been hoarding at 20+ years of age really should get drunk and is not in the queue for next year's meeting. So we have another couple over, I decant 2 bottles out of the 3L and put them aside. We enjoy the other 1.5L with dinner and everybody is happy. Of course, in this example, I drink the remaining bottles over just a few days as they won't hold up like an '05 Pegau.

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Re: '05 Pegau - 3L

#11 Post by Kris Patten » November 15th, 2019, 4:14 pm

I'd buy it, and as Dan says, drink half night before Thanksgiving and rest at Thanksgiving dinner.

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