Do you always taste before you buy?

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Do you always taste before you buy?

#1 Post by GregT » November 11th, 2019, 6:27 pm

This guy does.

An Argentine white came in first.

https://nypost.com/video/wine-shopper-c ... the-shelf/
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#2 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » November 11th, 2019, 6:32 pm

That's a lot of bottles for only $65 worth of wine.
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#3 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » November 11th, 2019, 6:34 pm

No.
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#4 Post by Victor Hong » November 11th, 2019, 6:42 pm

Being tasteless, I do not.
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#5 Post by LMD Ermitaño » November 11th, 2019, 6:46 pm

GregT wrote:
November 11th, 2019, 6:27 pm
This guy does.

An Argentine white came in first.

https://nypost.com/video/wine-shopper-c ... the-shelf/
Not like he does; but, seriously, most of the time, yes, unless the wine is from a producer/vintage with which I am familiar.
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#6 Post by Josh Grossman » November 11th, 2019, 6:57 pm

Haha. I would have to go to NYC or Chicago nearly weekly. Most of what I buy isn't even for sale in the state I live in.

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#7 Post by Jonathan Sirot » November 11th, 2019, 7:22 pm

Um no ! Where in Ct can you buy Becklyn or MacDonald even at secondary market or VHR or Greer ? Or even Bedrock to taste ? I dont trust critics too much but I do trust this board and cellartracker to often take the plunge without tasting first. Over 90 % of the time I am happy.

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#8 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » November 11th, 2019, 7:34 pm

Never.

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#9 Post by alan weinberg » November 11th, 2019, 7:46 pm

back in the day, one could and would. Wines were on the shelf a long time. Fewer reviewers existed to hype the wine pre-release. There weren’t back room one bottle now or never decisions to be made. I remember 96 Raveneau. I bought a couple b, took them home and, a couple weeks later, bought more after tasting them. And more after that. Those chances don’t occur now. It’s a different world.

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#10 Post by RichardFlack » November 11th, 2019, 8:04 pm

Absolutely if the is expensive or I’m not familiar with the producer / region / style or there is no recourse if I don’t like the wine. Otherwise, it depends ... on the source and any recommendation from trusted friend or writer.

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#11 Post by Albert R » November 11th, 2019, 8:15 pm

I have a lot of Bedrock in the cellar that I have not tasted.
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#12 Post by RyanC » November 11th, 2019, 8:16 pm

Impossible these days. But I rarely buy in any quantity if I haven’t had the producer before.
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#13 Post by Ofer Refaeli » November 11th, 2019, 11:19 pm

I try to taste before 1st bt purchase, sometimes not possible. For a purchase of many bts (sometimes 2nd phase) I am usually after a taste.

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#14 Post by Markus S » November 12th, 2019, 5:23 am

Perhaps there were no reps sampling that day??
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#15 Post by Jeff_M. » November 12th, 2019, 6:59 am

I was always warned to not buy wines I have yet to taste as I might not like the style. To date there have been exactly zero wines I've purchased where I can make that statement. Call me lucky or I guess I am just buying good wines. I've had wines I've tasted at wineries I don't like and I certainly don't buy those. Once you familiarize yourself with an AVA or region's wine style you have a good idea of what you will get without tasting. Some of the wines I was buying early in my collecting days I have circled back to with tasting visits to the winery and bought more bottles.
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#16 Post by JLuch » November 12th, 2019, 8:47 am

It’s a tricky question. I’ve tasted before buying and bought before tasting, it always varies. Highly sought after wines that have little allocation (Carter OG for example) are always purchased without tasting. Secondary market and wine shops I try and taste before buying unless I am familiar with the wine.

I will say that I’ve had a number of wines I randomly purchased without tasting (based on word of mouth or reputation) taste much better then wines that I tasted in store and drank later on. Perhaps it is the psychological impact of having an expectation based on my prior tasting versus no expectation at all.

If my budget allows, I try and purchase random wines/varietals from good producers that I haven’t tasted. Figure in case my palate shifts as I get older or seasons change, I have some options.
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#17 Post by Brian Tuite » November 12th, 2019, 9:23 am

No, I just see what Suckles likes and back up the truck.
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#18 Post by B Thorne » November 12th, 2019, 10:21 am

It's too much fun to buy a wine and then hate myself after I realize I don't even like it and get to play a game where I convince myself over time that I like it.
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#19 Post by Chris Seiber » November 12th, 2019, 11:04 am

I remember some of those threads where the rich jet setters who whisk over to Bordeaux for en primeur events and to be hosted by a line of elite chateaux would sneer at us regular guys for not tasting everything before we buy.

It would be a nice luxury to have, but it's not how the real world works for most of us.

I do think that it's good to try to attend group tastings, wine store tastings, and so forth when possible, to get to taste bigger lineups of things and discover some wines you do (and don't) like.

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#20 Post by PeterH » November 12th, 2019, 11:14 am

No, not all the wines I buy come with screw caps.
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#21 Post by John Glas » November 12th, 2019, 4:03 pm

Would love to but no. As mentioned Cellar Tracker can be a nice benchmark on purchases. Really don't want to buy a $50 bottle without any data points.

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#22 Post by GregT » November 12th, 2019, 4:59 pm

PeterH wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 11:14 am
No, not all the wines I buy come with screw caps.
That's why you need to carry a corkscrew when you shop!

I want to try before buying but can't always. If I know the producer, I'm usually OK buying blind, but wouldn't buy anything in quantity from a producer I don't know pretty well.

But that's where a Coravin might be useful. Last week a retailer told me that she'd see people buy a few bottles, go out to their cars and taste them, and then come back in and buy quantities of the wines they liked. That would be very do-able with a Coravin and gets around Alan's problem of expecting the wine to be gone if you don't take it all at once.
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#23 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » November 12th, 2019, 5:04 pm

GregT wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 4:59 pm
PeterH wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 11:14 am
No, not all the wines I buy come with screw caps.
That's why you need to carry a corkscrew when you shop!

I want to try before buying but can't always. If I know the producer, I'm usually OK buying blind, but wouldn't buy anything in quantity from a producer I don't know pretty well.

But that's where a Coravin might be useful. Last week a retailer told me that she'd see people buy a few bottles, go out to their cars and taste them, and then come back in and buy quantities of the wines they liked. That would be very do-able with a Coravin and gets around Alan's problem of expecting the wine to be gone if you don't take it all at once.
A very useful (albeit illegal) use of the Coravin!
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#24 Post by Anton D » November 12th, 2019, 5:49 pm

No.
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#25 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » November 12th, 2019, 7:16 pm

I have a stable of highly skilled wine experts I use to taste my wines. It’s called Wine Berserkers.

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#26 Post by Hank Victor » November 12th, 2019, 7:21 pm

No. I tend to research producers or tasting notes on CT. If not I just take a chance... Havn't been burnt too bad yet.
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#27 Post by David Glasser » November 13th, 2019, 5:59 am

Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 5:04 pm
GregT wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 4:59 pm
PeterH wrote:
November 12th, 2019, 11:14 am
No, not all the wines I buy come with screw caps.
That's why you need to carry a corkscrew when you shop!

I want to try before buying but can't always. If I know the producer, I'm usually OK buying blind, but wouldn't buy anything in quantity from a producer I don't know pretty well.

But that's where a Coravin might be useful. Last week a retailer told me that she'd see people buy a few bottles, go out to their cars and taste them, and then come back in and buy quantities of the wines they liked. That would be very do-able with a Coravin and gets around Alan's problem of expecting the wine to be gone if you don't take it all at once.
A very useful (albeit illegal) use of the Coravin!
I'm not seeing the issue here. They're not returning Coravined bottles the way I read it, just buying more of the ones they like. Illegal to consume alcohol in the parking lot?

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#28 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » November 13th, 2019, 10:06 am

Yes. I was referring to the illegal consumption in the parking lot.
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