Canlis for dinner this evening.........

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#1 Post by Andy K » October 17th, 2019, 5:41 am

Been wanting to eat here for years, I may be a decade late but still very much looking forward to it.

Not a lot of value here, but I would not expect much.

Thoughts on better values? Doing dinner with some casual wine drinkers and need to keep it towards $300/bottle.

Was thinking to start with a 2014 Jobard Les Poruzots, but haven’t gotten much further.

https://canlis.com/uploads/Canlis_Wine% ... .19_LF.pdf

Thoughts? Particularly on red Burgs would be appreciated.
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#2 Post by m. ristev » October 17th, 2019, 6:05 am

not much in the way of value on that list, especially in burgundy, but these are the options that stuck out to me:

PIERRE BOISSON • Auxey-Duresses, En Reugne, Premier Cru, 2012 155
COMTESSE DE CHÉRISEY • La Genelotte, Premier Cru, 2011 155

SIMON BIZE • Les Fournaux, Premier Cru, 2013 145
SIMON BIZE • Les Talmettes, Premier Cru, 2012 145

in my view, upping the price to $300 per bottle does very little in terms of qpr. i would probably opt for two of the bottles in my list and get a decent bottle of champagne to start.
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#3 Post by Doug Lee » October 17th, 2019, 8:00 am

Andy,

I'd be tempted to bring my own, but don't know the corkage fee at Canlis these days. If I had to choose a red burgundy from the list I would consider the 2010 Lafarge Volnay at 165 or the 2010 Selectionnees at 195. If you are considering a Bojo the 2014 Cuvee Marcel Lapierre Morgon at 125 is a reasonable choice.

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#4 Post by Brandon R » October 17th, 2019, 8:15 am

Have a great time and please report back, either here or on the Seattle Dining thread over in the Epicurean Exploits forum. Canlis was discussed quite a bit.

I'd start with a split of Vazart-Coquart Blanc de Blancs Brut NV ($65) and pair it with a tasty appetizer. Then go for the 2013 Corliss Estates Cab Sauv for $185, but be sure to have them decant it when you arrive. 2010 was a cool vintage and yielded some great wines. The 2008 Andrew Will Sorella would also be very nice for $225. I'd bet it's drinking very well right now.

I'll defer to the experts here on the old world stuff, but that would be my leaning.
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#5 Post by Steven Dilley » October 17th, 2019, 8:21 am

Funny, I had dinner there two nights ago. Came down to '11 Bize Savigny Vergelesses blanc, Niellon, Guiberteau, or Domaine du Collier. Went with the '09 Collier, which turned out to be an awesome bottle.

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#6 Post by Andy K » October 17th, 2019, 8:24 am

PIERRE BOISSON • Auxey-Duresses, En Reugne, Premier Cru, 2012 155
COMTESSE DE CHÉRISEY • La Genelotte, Premier Cru, 2011 155

SIMON BIZE • Les Fournaux, Premier Cru, 2013 145
SIMON BIZE • Les Talmettes, Premier Cru, 2012 145

in my view, upping the price to $300 per bottle does very little in terms of qpr. i would probably opt for two of the bottles in my list and get a decent bottle of champagne to start.
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Thanks, I thought maybe a Deibolt-Vallois to start. I'll consider the 2012 Bize as an option for sure.
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#7 Post by Andy K » October 17th, 2019, 8:26 am

Doug Lee wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 8:00 am
2010 Selectionnees at 195.
This had also piqued my interest. Have you had it? I have not.

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#8 Post by Mark Y » October 17th, 2019, 8:27 am

I think the steal of that list is the 2007 DRC La Tache for $2.2K.
Yes it's $2K which is silly expensive.. but that's a good price for that bottle... quality guaranteed basically.
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#9 Post by Geoff F. » October 17th, 2019, 8:45 am

The 2000 La Tache is listed for $3500 though?
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#10 Post by Mark Y » October 17th, 2019, 8:46 am

Geoff F. wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 8:45 am
The 2000 La Tache is listed for $3500 though?
oops 2007 sorry..
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#11 Post by Nathan V. » October 17th, 2019, 8:55 am

These are the bargains:

THE EYRIE VINEYARDS • Original Vines Reserve, Dundee Hills, 2013 95
DOMAINE COLLIER • Saumur, FRA, 2009 145
KNOLL • Riesling Schutt Durnsteiner, Smaragd, Wachau, 2016 150
KNOLL • Gruner Smaragd, Schutt, Wachau, 2016 105
BÉNÉDICTE & STÉPHANE TISSOT • Chardonnay, Les Bruyères, Arbois, FRA, 2011 85

DOMAINE COLLIER • Saumur La Ripaille, Saumur, 2014 125
CHÂTEAU GOMBAUDE-GUILLOT Pomerol • 2009 195

HUBERT LIGNIER • Morey Les Chaffots, Premier Cru, 2009 295
DOMAINE FOREY • Nuits Les Perrières, 2010 215

YANN CHAVE • Hermitage 2012 215
DOMAINE CHARVIN • Chateauneuf 2009 225

CAPPELLANO • Piè Rupestris, Barolo, 2011 225

Like others, I have my eye on a couple of other things that are a bit below market.
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#12 Post by Nathan V. » October 17th, 2019, 8:56 am

Steven Dilley wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 8:21 am
Funny, I had dinner there two nights ago. Came down to '11 Bize Savigny Vergelesses blanc, Niellon, Guiberteau, or Domaine du Collier. Went with the '09 Collier, which turned out to be an awesome bottle.
Collier is dope.
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#13 Post by Doug Lee » October 17th, 2019, 9:19 am

Andy

I have a single bottle of the 2010 Selectionnees, which I hope I can keep my hands off of for at least a few years. So haven’t sampled one myself, but please report back if you try it!

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#14 Post by Yao C » October 17th, 2019, 9:32 am

Mark Y wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 8:46 am
Geoff F. wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 8:45 am
The 2000 La Tache is listed for $3500 though?
oops 2007 sorry..
Rousseau Ruchottes looks good as well, as does 1999 Romanee Conti at $12,500

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#15 Post by Jim Anderson » October 17th, 2019, 9:34 am

Good luck there. I’m sure many folks here can tell you about mixed results. Not trying to throw water on a hopefully wonderful night, just saying. One of the best meals of my life was there. Another time...
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#16 Post by Andy K » October 17th, 2019, 9:38 am

Nathan V. wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 8:55 am


CAPPELLANO • Piè Rupestris, Barolo, 2011 225
I had not seen this, but will definitely try it!
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#17 Post by Michael Bowden » October 17th, 2019, 11:30 am

Doug Lee wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 8:00 am
Andy,

I'd be tempted to bring my own, but don't know the corkage fee at Canlis these days.
I believe it is $10 per person with a 3 bottle max per table.

I was there earlier this month - it was okay but nothing special - most certainly not rushing back.
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#18 Post by Kris Patten » October 17th, 2019, 11:39 am

I would go for:

Chezeaux Les St. George's 2010 for $175
Lapierre Morgon 2016 Magnum $150
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#19 Post by Greg K » October 17th, 2019, 11:45 am

The 2011 Rupestris is drinking great, and that’s a very nice price for a restaurant.
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#20 Post by Andy K » October 17th, 2019, 1:40 pm

Greg K wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 11:45 am
The 2011 Rupestris is drinking great, and that’s a very nice price for a restaurant.
That is pretty much a great price anywhere right now!

I will report back!


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#21 Post by Jason T » October 17th, 2019, 3:35 pm

Jim Anderson wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 9:34 am
Good luck there. I’m sure many folks here can tell you about mixed results. Not trying to throw water on a hopefully wonderful night, just saying. One of the best meals of my life was there. Another time...
The night I dined there must have been “another time”.
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#22 Post by john stimson » October 17th, 2019, 4:07 pm

Jason T wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 3:35 pm
Jim Anderson wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 9:34 am
Good luck there. I’m sure many folks here can tell you about mixed results. Not trying to throw water on a hopefully wonderful night, just saying. One of the best meals of my life was there. Another time...
The night I dined there must have been “another time”.
Yeah the last two times there I've felt they've been in a down phase. Plus, they didn't have any of the bottles I had chosen on-line off the list. (they didn't know this until they had spent 10 or more minutes in the cellar looking for them. nonetheless, hope we were just unlucky x2 and that you'll have a great meal.) If you are really attracted to a bottle, you may want to call ahead and be sure they actually have it.

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#23 Post by Dan Kravitz » October 17th, 2019, 6:25 pm

I've eaten there three times, had wondrous experiences every time... most recently last spring, posted on some good glasses.

Being cheap, I've decided that in great restaurants with great, expensive lists, I'm often better off buying their glass pours, especially if they are as good as at Canlis. They had 2006 Lopez de Heredia Tondonia Reserva for $24, more than fair imo, it was discussed in another thread. I love doing this, then we return to the hotel where a great bottle of red awaits to cap off the evening. I've heard that Canlis is not always 'on'. They have been on all of my visits, and on those occasions I'm more interested in the food than the wine.

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#24 Post by Chuck Miller » October 22nd, 2019, 3:53 pm

Andy K wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 1:40 pm
Greg K wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 11:45 am
The 2011 Rupestris is drinking great, and that’s a very nice price for a restaurant.
That is pretty much a great price anywhere right now!

I will report back!


Thanks again.
Apparently Andy suffered amnesia after dining at Canlis and has forgotten to report back!
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#25 Post by jbray23 » October 22nd, 2019, 8:57 pm

Disclaimer: I know these peeps...

In my experience the best way to do Canlis is By the glass, often times Nelson will have stuff that’s he just decided to pull and pour that aren’t listed as btg, just ask...

Also, if you ask, Nelson and crew are great at guiding you in the right direction, if you show passion about wine, they’ll hook you up..
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#26 Post by Kris Patten » October 24th, 2019, 9:30 am

jbray23 wrote:
October 22nd, 2019, 8:57 pm
Disclaimer: I know these peeps...

In my experience the best way to do Canlis is By the glass, often times Nelson will have stuff that’s he just decided to pull and pour that aren’t listed as btg, just ask...

Also, if you ask, Nelson and crew are great at guiding you in the right direction, if you show passion about wine, they’ll hook you up..
My personal favorite is sitting in the bar with James and mingling with Nelson, Elton and Crew as they make their way thru the restaurant. It's the best bar in WA that people seem scared to hang out at, no jacket needed, and parking is easy. Few small plates, glass of wine or 2 or a half bottle, it's just a great place, period, and James is one of the best cocktail minds in WA.
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#27 Post by Andy K » November 9th, 2019, 1:24 pm

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Apparently Andy suffered amnesia after dining at Canlis and has forgotten to report back!
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I apparently did!

Overall a good experience. Service was stellar.

We started with the ‘09 Domaine du Collier, which was absolutely incredible. It was somehow both rich and bright, definitely my highlight of the night. Nice compliment to the Japanese egg custard with matsutake mushroom and geoduck, which was also my favorite dish of the evening.

For the protein courses we had a 2011 Cappellano Pie Ruestris Barolo and a 2009 Domaine du Pavillon Corton Clos Des Maréchaudes GC.

The Cappellano was typical Nebbiolo on the nose but the wine seemed a little tired, which really surprised me. I would guess te,perature damage vs a flaw, but still a relatively enjoyable wine.

By the time I got to the Burg it had already been a looooong day and we were several bottles in. It did not leave much impression.

The balance of the courses were good, but nothing blew me away. Thanks again to everyone for your recommendations.
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