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#1 Post by Joshua Kates » October 6th, 2019, 9:06 am

  • 2014 Patricia Green Cellars Pinot Noir Balcombe Vineyard Dundee Hills - USA, Oregon, Willamette Valley, Dundee Hills (10/6/2019)
    Out of 375. Evocative oregon pinot blast of matsuyama plums and fog. Very classically styled, such great balance, velvety mouthfeel, with slightly redder fruit and soil on the finish. Still on the young side—great now, but could also easily hold another 3-7 years. (94 pts.)
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#2 Post by Diane Kessler » October 6th, 2019, 9:22 am

Nice note, Josh. I almost opened a 2013 last week, but opened a different Oregon Pinot. I last had the 2013 PG Balcombe two years ago and it was lovely. I am new to Patricia Green but have enjoyed the few I have opened.

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#3 Post by Joshua Kates » October 6th, 2019, 2:16 pm

Thanks, Diane,

PG is one of my favorite Oregon producers and Balcombe probably my favorite of their single vineyard bottlings, though at this point I doubt that I have tried them all. Inundated as I tend to be with Burgundy, among other things, I just don't have an opportunity to drink them that often, so I rarely purchase them these days. Almost always pleasurable and satisfying when I get a chance to quaff some.

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#4 Post by Ian H » October 6th, 2019, 5:41 pm

I had a 2007 Patty Green Balcombe a few months ago and it was just terrific almost 12 years on. Was my first of this bottle and would gladly re-up.
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#5 Post by Jim Anderson » October 6th, 2019, 6:20 pm

Joshua Kates wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 2:16 pm
Thanks, Diane,

PG is one of my favorite Oregon producers and Balcombe probably my favorite of their single vineyard bottlings, though at this point I doubt that I have tried them all. Inundated as I tend to be with Burgundy, among other things, I just don't have an opportunity to drink them that often, so I rarely purchase them these days. Almost always pleasurable and satisfying when I get a chance to quaff some.

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Don’t doubt it, know it. 27 Pinot Noir bottlings in 2017 and 2018 with 22 and 23 single vineyard bottlings respectively. Rare is the person beyond the staff that tries them all.
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#6 Post by Kris Patten » October 6th, 2019, 6:50 pm

Jim Anderson wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 6:20 pm
Joshua Kates wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 2:16 pm
Thanks, Diane,

PG is one of my favorite Oregon producers and Balcombe probably my favorite of their single vineyard bottlings, though at this point I doubt that I have tried them all. Inundated as I tend to be with Burgundy, among other things, I just don't have an opportunity to drink them that often, so I rarely purchase them these days. Almost always pleasurable and satisfying when I get a chance to quaff some.

Best,
Josh
Don’t doubt it, know it. 27 Pinot Noir bottlings in 2017 and 2018 with 22 and 23 single vineyard bottlings respectively. Rare is the person beyond the staff that tries them all.
Crazy in Oregon, but nothing I guess in comparison to Drouhin, Bouchard, or Jadot in Burgundy.
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#7 Post by Joshua Kates » October 7th, 2019, 8:34 am

Kris Patten wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 6:50 pm
Jim Anderson wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 6:20 pm
Joshua Kates wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 2:16 pm
Thanks, Diane,

PG is one of my favorite Oregon producers and Balcombe probably my favorite of their single vineyard bottlings, though at this point I doubt that I have tried them all. Inundated as I tend to be with Burgundy, among other things, I just don't have an opportunity to drink them that often, so I rarely purchase them these days. Almost always pleasurable and satisfying when I get a chance to quaff some.

Best,
Josh
Don’t doubt it, know it. 27 Pinot Noir bottlings in 2017 and 2018 with 22 and 23 single vineyard bottlings respectively. Rare is the person beyond the staff that tries them all.
Crazy in Oregon, but nothing I guess in comparison to Drouhin, Bouchard, or Jadot in Burgundy.
And some of your own favorites these days are? (I have the Olenik and Etzel Block in the same year and same format, but I thought they needed still more age than the Balcombe.) Or is that like asking a mother which she loves the most?

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#8 Post by Jim Anderson » October 7th, 2019, 10:59 am

Joshua Kates wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 8:34 am
Kris Patten wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 6:50 pm
Jim Anderson wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 6:20 pm


Don’t doubt it, know it. 27 Pinot Noir bottlings in 2017 and 2018 with 22 and 23 single vineyard bottlings respectively. Rare is the person beyond the staff that tries them all.
Crazy in Oregon, but nothing I guess in comparison to Drouhin, Bouchard, or Jadot in Burgundy.
And some of your own favorites these days are? (I have the Olenik and Etzel Block in the same year and same format, but I thought they needed still more age than the Balcombe.) Or is that like asking a mother which she loves the most?
Changes vintage to vintage based on any number of reasons. I generally really like all 3 of our Wadensvil bottlings (Estate, Olenik, Freedom Hill), Weber is oft times (2016) very compelling, the Hyland stuff, while new to us, is very interesting to me and there is the weird stuff like the Estate First Vines or Ridgecrest (2018 only it appears) that I think are righteous.
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#9 Post by James Gardner » October 7th, 2019, 11:06 am

you're setting a challenge to all WB wine nerds, Jim. sadly us Brits only get access to a small handful of the single vineyard wines. Guess we'll have to come over and visit.

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#10 Post by Kris Patten » October 7th, 2019, 11:33 am

Jim,

How do those Pinot's break down between DTC and distribution? Love the commitment to showing diversity of Oregon....and that is only the # of Pinot's you produce.
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#11 Post by Jim Anderson » October 7th, 2019, 12:21 pm

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October 7th, 2019, 11:33 am
Jim,

How do those Pinot's break down between DTC and distribution? Love the commitment to showing diversity of Oregon....and that is only the # of Pinot's you produce.
We have wines that are gettable out in the wide world of distribution. They are:

Reserve
Balcombe
Estate
Estate Old Vine
Freedom Hill
Lia’s
Marine Sedimentary (Chehalem Mountain/Ribbon Ridge soil)
Volcanic (Dundee Hills soil)

Most of our 20ish distributors carry most/all of those.

Some wines cross over DTC into distribution but are still fairly small production and would likely be special orders or wines dedicated to one account or on-premise only.

Durant Madrone
Estate Wadensvil
Freedom Hill Wadensvil
Hyland Coury
Mysterious
Notorious

All the other Pinots are 99% club/wait list/tasting room wines. We try to make it as easy as possible for people to get what they want. Sometimes though given the scant production level on some of these wines it’s hard to do anything about it.
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#12 Post by Brian Pinci » October 7th, 2019, 5:05 pm

Love these wines. On their mailing list. Favorite of mine but I think I drink them way too young. Any experience with older bottlings?
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#13 Post by Diane Kessler » October 11th, 2019, 3:42 pm

Josh, I didn’t realize just how descriptive your note was until I opened the 2013 Balcombe tonight. I won’t even attempt to write a tasting note since your note is perfect for this wine, as well. A slight difference would be I get more of a mineralality on the finish. A beautiful wine.

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#14 Post by Joshua Kates » October 11th, 2019, 6:36 pm

Diane Kessler wrote:
October 11th, 2019, 3:42 pm
Josh, I didn’t realize just how descriptive your note was until I opened the 2013 Balcombe tonight. I won’t even attempt to write a tasting note since your note is perfect for this wine, as well. A slight difference would be I get more of a mineralality on the finish. A beautiful wine.
Thanks, Diane, for your kind words. I'm glad to learn that the Balcombe also showed well for you.
Enjoy!
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#15 Post by Mark.Ricca » October 12th, 2019, 1:30 pm

I've got a 2009 Balcombe and a 2009 Ribbon Ridge 3L that are laying in wait.
Hopefully I can talk Jim about them if we see him Monday morning.

Plus a bunch of 2015 and 2016s in various formats that have a ways to go.
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#16 Post by Kirk.Grant » October 12th, 2019, 4:25 pm

Joshua Kates wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 8:34 am
Kris Patten wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 6:50 pm
Jim Anderson wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 6:20 pm


Don’t doubt it, know it. 27 Pinot Noir bottlings in 2017 and 2018 with 22 and 23 single vineyard bottlings respectively. Rare is the person beyond the staff that tries them all.
Crazy in Oregon, but nothing I guess in comparison to Drouhin, Bouchard, or Jadot in Burgundy.
And some of your own favorites these days are? (I have the Olenik and Etzel Block in the same year and same format, but I thought they needed still more age than the Balcombe.) Or is that like asking a mother which she loves the most?
Josh, based on the vertical of the Etzel Block we did in June this year, I'd strongly encourage you to save the Etzel Block. They really shine with age and I would assume even in a 375ml that the wine will be long lived. If it were me and I only had one...I'd probably aim to open it in 2-4 more years.
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#17 Post by Joshua Kates » October 12th, 2019, 4:32 pm

Kirk.Grant wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 4:25 pm
Joshua Kates wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 8:34 am
Kris Patten wrote:
October 6th, 2019, 6:50 pm


Crazy in Oregon, but nothing I guess in comparison to Drouhin, Bouchard, or Jadot in Burgundy.
And some of your own favorites these days are? (I have the Olenik and Etzel Block in the same year and same format, but I thought they needed still more age than the Balcombe.) Or is that like asking a mother which she loves the most?
Josh, based on the vertical of the Etzel Block we did in June this year, I'd strongly encourage you to save the Etzel Block. They really shine with age and I would assume even in a 375ml that the wine will be long lived. If it were me and I only had one...I'd probably aim to open it in 2-4 more years.
Thanks, Kirk, I have a couple, but I am definitely intending to hold them--seems like they need a good ten years at least.

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#18 Post by R. Frankel » October 12th, 2019, 7:05 pm

Opened a 2014 PGC Freedom Hill/Coury tonight and it really shone. In a great place, wide open, showing tons of red fruit on the nose and palate, but also revealing depths of spices on the nose and palate with a superb, long, crunchy spicy finish. Tons of intensity but also balanced, yummy, deep. A beautiful Oregon Pinot.
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#19 Post by MitchTallan » October 12th, 2019, 7:20 pm

You guya are newbs-I have B!B back to '02. Once you get experienced, all PG roads end at Etzel. Just my humble op. But even in most difficult years, Etzel always makes me smile.

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#20 Post by Kirk.Grant » October 12th, 2019, 11:33 pm

Joshua Kates wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 4:32 pm
Kirk.Grant wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 4:25 pm
Joshua Kates wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 8:34 am


And some of your own favorites these days are? (I have the Olenik and Etzel Block in the same year and same format, but I thought they needed still more age than the Balcombe.) Or is that like asking a mother which she loves the most?
Josh, based on the vertical of the Etzel Block we did in June this year, I'd strongly encourage you to save the Etzel Block. They really shine with age and I would assume even in a 375ml that the wine will be long lived. If it were me and I only had one...I'd probably aim to open it in 2-4 more years.
Thanks, Kirk, I have a couple, but I am definitely intending to hold them--seems like they need a good ten years at least.
Josh, I really love the 2005’s right now, I’m aging my 2008’s in 750ml still and expect my magnum of 2005 will show its best in another 2-3 years. If you’re close to Boston then maybe you can join us when we have our next gathering?
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#21 Post by Kirk.Grant » October 12th, 2019, 11:45 pm

I think what I love so much about these wines is that they’ve always showed restraint, and the folks that seem to love them are “my kind of people” that all seem passionate and excited about sharing great wines and creating amazing experiences. Jim has always been so kind & generous with his time and I keep finding myself say, I need to get on the mailing club...because the Etzel Block really is a favorite wine (from anywhere) of mine. Thanks for sharing the note and prompting the reminder. I’m really looking forward to getting their 2018 Estate Sauvignon Blanc in a week or two! When the shipment arrives with the 2017 commemorative bottling in honor of Patty is shipped out.
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#22 Post by Joshua Kates » October 13th, 2019, 4:46 am

Kirk.Grant wrote:
October 12th, 2019, 11:45 pm
I think what I love so much about these wines is that they’ve always showed restraint, and the folks that seem to love them are “my kind of people” that all seem passionate and excited about sharing great wines and creating amazing experiences. Jim has always been so kind & generous with his time and I keep finding myself say, I need to get on the mailing club...because the Etzel Block really is a favorite wine (from anywhere) of mine. Thanks for sharing the note and prompting the reminder. I’m really looking forward to getting their 2018 Estate Sauvignon Blanc in a week or two! When the shipment arrives with the 2017 commemorative bottling in honor of Patty is shipped out.
I hear you, Kirk, thanks for the invite above. I currently live in IN, so pretty far, but my kid my be going to school in the area, so I may be around more--who knows?
Opened a 2014 PGC Freedom Hill/Coury tonight and it really shone. In a great place, wide open, showing tons of red fruit on the nose and palate, but also revealing depths of spices on the nose and palate with a superb, long, crunchy spicy finish. Tons of intensity but also balanced, yummy, deep. A beautiful Oregon Pinot.
Hi Rich, Cool to see you, Diane, and I all posting in the the same thread--thanks for the great note!
You guya are newbs-I have B!B back to '02. Once you get experienced, all PG roads end at Etzel. Just my humble op. But even in most difficult years, Etzel always makes me smile.
Mitch, I first encountered Jim and the wines around '04, on a late, surprise visit to PG in the lead-up to IPNC. Jim was incredibly gracious and informative. Good to know about the Etzel Block, have to save it for a special occasion.

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#23 Post by Mattstolz » October 13th, 2019, 10:05 am

Jim Anderson wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 12:21 pm

All the other Pinots are 99% club/wait list/tasting room wines. We try to make it as easy as possible for people to get what they want. Sometimes though given the scant production level on some of these wines it’s hard to do anything about it.
hey Jim have you gotten much feedback on the Commemorative bottling yet? doesn't look like any notes have made it onto CT at this point. curious what your thoughts and reccs are on how they'll evolve?

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