shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

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Marcu$ Stanley
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shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

#1 Post by Marcu$ Stanley » October 4th, 2019, 4:35 am

Months ago I bought some of the older Copain pinots that were going for a song on Winebid. I told them to ship when the weather was good, and then forgot about it, assuming they would check temps before shipping. Well, they checked the date but not the temperatures -- they shipped it out earlier this week when half the country was setting high temperature records for early October. Based on the shipment tracker, the wine transited Indianapolis in a UPS truck when the high temperature was 91 degrees. I'm going to assume it will be OK because wine is usually more durable than you think it is, and it's impossible to fix now, but it's frustrating when what should be sophisticated / experienced operations like Winebid ship based on the date and not based on the actual weather report. This is going to be a bigger issue with the inexorable advance in global warming as the shipping season moves back, so be careful!

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Re: shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

#2 Post by Victor Hong » October 4th, 2019, 4:52 am

Given the shortness of the heat, and the thermal mass of the styrofoam shipper, your wine should be OK.
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#3 Post by Sh@n A » October 4th, 2019, 5:03 am

I purchased from a local retailer who I thought was using local truck delivery... they used UPS on a day it was 80F. I bought 1 wine to try now and 2 wines to cellar... the 1 wine I tried now was heat damaged or just a bad bottle... not sure what to do with the 2 wines I planned to cellar. Any advice?
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Re: shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

#4 Post by Marcu$ Stanley » October 4th, 2019, 8:49 am

Victor Hong wrote:
October 4th, 2019, 4:52 am
Given the shortness of the heat, and the thermal mass of the styrofoam shipper, your wine should be OK.
that's my hope, but 1) don't know if there was a styro shipper at all, and 2) if it's OK to just stick aged pinot in the back of a truck for delivery on a 90+ degree day, then why don't we all just ship during the summers?

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#5 Post by Al Osterheld » October 4th, 2019, 8:57 am

The styrofoam shipper has negligible thermal mass, only the wine and the glass. It has some insulating ability.

Inside CA, I don't worry about it much unless it's exceptionally hot. Cross country when it's hot, I pay more to have it not go ground.

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#6 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » October 4th, 2019, 9:20 am

I have three shipments in process to me. All three are from California wineries that were given explicit instructions on dates that they ignored.
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#7 Post by Doug Schulman » October 4th, 2019, 10:25 am

Sh@n A wrote:
October 4th, 2019, 5:03 am
I purchased from a local retailer who I thought was using local truck delivery... they used UPS on a day it was 80F. I bought 1 wine to try now and 2 wines to cellar... the 1 wine I tried now was heat damaged or just a bad bottle... not sure what to do with the 2 wines I planned to cellar. Any advice?
80 degrees for part of a day did not cook your wine.
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Re: shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

#8 Post by GregT » October 4th, 2019, 10:34 am

Agreed. The problem with UPS however, is that they don't pick it up from the retailer and take it to your house. It usually has to make a stop at a warehouse and be processed. Otherwise drivers would be freelancing on UPS's dime. But even so, the conditions probably weren't all that bad and keep in mind that most retail stores aren't fanatic about keeping their temps in the 60s either.

As far as shipping across country, either request that it be done only November through March, or pay for overnight or two day delivery. I have a few cases coming in from various auctions and those will be shipped in December.
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#9 Post by Frank Drew » October 4th, 2019, 2:47 pm

It’s not the temperature outdoors, it’s the temperature inside the dark brown truck that counts.

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Re: shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

#10 Post by Howard Cooper » October 5th, 2019, 6:14 am

Forget about the year. I have never had wines shipped to me this early. It is always hot somewhere on the route. I wait until late October or early November.
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Re: shipping during the heat snap -- frustrating

#11 Post by etomasi » October 5th, 2019, 10:27 am

Sorry Marcus,

That sucks.
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