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#351 Post by AD Northup » December 3rd, 2019, 4:52 pm

92 Sonoma Zin tasted insanely youthful. Similar experience to above on the 89 Summers Merlot.
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#352 Post by Andrew W. » December 4th, 2019, 1:43 am

Has everyone gotten their wine? No news in NC.
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#353 Post by David Glasser » December 4th, 2019, 4:34 am

Mine came the day before Thanksgiving. I think it’s a small operation and it’s taking them time to plow through the orders. They responded within a day to my email inquiry. Reach out if you’re worried.

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#354 Post by Tim Dennis » December 4th, 2019, 8:55 am

Andrew W. wrote:
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Has everyone gotten their wine? No news in NC.
I'm also in NC and haven't received mine. I reached out to Erica last week and she said they hoped to have everything out by the end of this week. I'm getting jealous seeing all the tasting notes!

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#355 Post by Hank Victor » December 4th, 2019, 3:56 pm

Anyone open a 1993 Ravenswood Zinfandel Cooke yet?
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#356 Post by David Baum » December 4th, 2019, 3:58 pm

I opened a 93 Dickerson. Bottle was pristine though cork broke near bottom. It was good to very good but short of spectacular imo

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#357 Post by Richard Jen » December 8th, 2019, 6:49 am

Picked up mine at Bedrock event yesterday. Big thanks to Erika for making it easy for me.

After reading the posts about sediment and limited time to enjoy the wine once opened, I'm wondering whether it is a good or bad idea to re-cork the bottles and use Coravin to get a glass or two? The gas is probably going to stir the wine pretty hard?
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#358 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » December 8th, 2019, 7:28 am

Hank Victor wrote:
December 4th, 2019, 3:56 pm
Anyone open a 1993 Ravenswood Zinfandel Cooke yet?
No. My ‘93 is a Monte Rosso. Cooke is ‘91, ‘94 and ‘96.

Waiting for the Christmas holidays, so that I can drink the whole bottle with no work the next day!
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#359 Post by David Glasser » December 8th, 2019, 8:03 am

Richard Jen wrote:
December 8th, 2019, 6:49 am
Picked up mine at Bedrock event yesterday. Big thanks to Erika for making it easy for me.

After reading the posts about sediment and limited time to enjoy the wine once opened, I'm wondering whether it is a good or bad idea to re-cork the bottles and use Coravin to get a glass or two? The gas is probably going to stir the wine pretty hard?
Coravin is a poor choice for wines with sediment.

Just stand the bottles up for a week or two. They aren’t going to go over the hill in the next month. The timing issue for me was the desire to open them for Thanksgiving. Mine showed up the day before.

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#360 Post by Scott Watkins » December 8th, 2019, 9:22 am

Opened a 90 Sonoma merlot last night and it was fantastic. Drank over two hours, cork was soaked half way up.
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#361 Post by Victor Hong » December 8th, 2019, 1:03 pm

My one complaint about older California reds is the high tendency for corks to crumble or break, regardless of tool, even CoraVin. Fortunately, the underlying wines have almost always overcome that weakness. By contrast, tainted and weak corks seem to have marred the drinkability of many wines from the epic 1994 Spanish vintage.
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#362 Post by AlexS » December 8th, 2019, 1:34 pm

On the subject of crumbling corks, quick tip for anyone using a Durand - gently pinch the ah so prongs together right before extracting the cork so they don't "pop out" when exiting the bottle, which really helps to ensure no extraneous cork crumbles or sediment chunks drop into the wine.

And for anyone opening these wines without a Durand or waiter's friend/ah so improv combo, good luck...
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#363 Post by Richard Jen » December 8th, 2019, 1:55 pm

David Glasser wrote:
December 8th, 2019, 8:03 am
Richard Jen wrote:
December 8th, 2019, 6:49 am
Picked up mine at Bedrock event yesterday. Big thanks to Erika for making it easy for me.

After reading the posts about sediment and limited time to enjoy the wine once opened, I'm wondering whether it is a good or bad idea to re-cork the bottles and use Coravin to get a glass or two? The gas is probably going to stir the wine pretty hard?
Coravin is a poor choice for wines with sediment.

Just stand the bottles up for a week or two. They aren’t going to go over the hill in the next month. The timing issue for me was the desire to open them for Thanksgiving. Mine showed up the day before.
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#364 Post by Victor Hong » December 8th, 2019, 1:55 pm

I have begun just to push the corks cleanly into the bottles.
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#365 Post by David Glasser » December 8th, 2019, 8:25 pm

I’ve been using RePour to keep opened bottles for a few days to a week. There’s a thread on this here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=150695

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#366 Post by Richard Jen » December 9th, 2019, 6:00 am

David Glasser wrote:
December 8th, 2019, 8:25 pm
I’ve been using RePour to keep opened bottles for a few days to a week. There’s a thread on this here: viewtopic.php?f=1&t=150695
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#367 Post by David Glasser » December 17th, 2019, 4:06 pm

Opened my first of the 1994 Old Hill after giving them a couple of weeks standing up.
  • 1994 Ravenswood Zinfandel Old Hill - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (12/17/2019)
    Library purchase from Joel Peterson in 2019. Perfect cork and fill (into neck, <1/2” below cork). Dark red core, a little lightening at the rim but no bricking. Dark fruit, dusty book/library and dried hay on the nose - nice aged complexity but not like an older Burg or Bordeaux. Medium body, good balance, complex interplay of lingering bramble fruits, hay, earth, medium finish. Definitely NOT a wimpy wine. Unlikely to ever be any better than today, but should hold on a few more years if stored as well as this was.

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#368 Post by david paly » December 17th, 2019, 8:47 pm

Drank the ‘97 Old Hill from the recent release and your notes would be a perfect description of my bottle as well. Some dusty tannins which complemented the wine. My impression is that this bottling is not likely to improve with more age.

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#369 Post by adam landa » December 17th, 2019, 8:49 pm

Opened a 1999 Big River this past weekend that was absolutely singing as a pop and pour. Black, candied fruit, some clove, just a hint of tannins and uber smooth going down. So glad I heard about this offer.

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#370 Post by Victor Hong » December 18th, 2019, 3:45 am

David Glasser wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 4:06 pm
Opened my first of the 1994 Old Hill after giving them a couple of weeks standing up.
  • 1994 Ravenswood Zinfandel Old Hill - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (12/17/2019)
    Library purchase from Joel Peterson in 2019. Perfect cork and fill (into neck, <1/2” below cork). Dark red core, a little lightening at the rim but no bricking. Dark fruit, dusty book/library and dried hay on the nose - nice aged complexity but not like an older Burg or Bordeaux. Medium body, good balance, complex interplay of lingering bramble fruits, hay, earth, medium finish. Definitely NOT a wimpy wine. Unlikely to ever be any better than today, but should hold on a few more years if stored as well as this was.
Generally, 1994 California reds are over-rated. Not worth chasing. Not at all.
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#371 Post by David Glasser » December 18th, 2019, 4:27 am

Victor Hong wrote:
December 18th, 2019, 3:45 am
David Glasser wrote:
December 17th, 2019, 4:06 pm
Opened my first of the 1994 Old Hill after giving them a couple of weeks standing up.
  • 1994 Ravenswood Zinfandel Old Hill - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (12/17/2019)
    Library purchase from Joel Peterson in 2019. Perfect cork and fill (into neck, <1/2” below cork). Dark red core, a little lightening at the rim but no bricking. Dark fruit, dusty book/library and dried hay on the nose - nice aged complexity but not like an older Burg or Bordeaux. Medium body, good balance, complex interplay of lingering bramble fruits, hay, earth, medium finish. Definitely NOT a wimpy wine. Unlikely to ever be any better than today, but should hold on a few more years if stored as well as this was.
Generally, 1994 California reds are over-rated. Not worth chasing. Not at all.
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#372 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » December 18th, 2019, 7:08 am

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#373 Post by Jeff_M. » December 18th, 2019, 7:13 am

Had an 89' Summers Vineyard merlot last week. Beautiful wine. This didn't have the mint notes that the 88' Gregory Cab had. Will open a few more bottles in the next week with family.
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#374 Post by Sh@n A » December 25th, 2019, 6:46 pm

Has anyone had the icon syrah? I just did and it was very good. I am not well versed in syrah, or aged syrah or cali syrah, but this wine has got me interested to explore more.

Cork was pristine. Decanted for a bit of fine and chunky sediment. Tried it after a couple hours of air. I found it a bit ripe but not all the way jammy. plush but cool mouthfeel, notes of olives and bacon and a little funk, smooth finish with no heat and a steal for the price paid. Preferred this to the 2012 bedrock monte rosso zinfandel tried prior, which was more ripe and less nuanced.

Is this a good example of aged cali syrah?
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#375 Post by joeduncan » December 26th, 2019, 4:15 pm

  • 1988 Ravenswood Cabernet Sauvignon Gregory Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (12/26/2019)
    Large quantities of thick sediment and the cork broke, but it survived the indignity.

    Wine was quite bricked, but still had a strong core of acid (surprisingly so, really). It's definitely acid forward at this point with tart fruit. Still, it was enjoyable and I'm very happy to have picked up the bottle.
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#376 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » December 26th, 2019, 4:27 pm

Sh@n A wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 6:46 pm
Has anyone had the icon syrah? I just did and it was very good. I am not well versed in syrah, or aged syrah or cali syrah, but this wine has got me interested to explore more.

Cork was pristine. Decanted for a bit of fine and chunky sediment. Tried it after a couple hours of air. I found it a bit ripe but not all the way jammy. plush but cool mouthfeel, notes of olives and bacon and a little funk, smooth finish with no heat and a steal for the price paid. Preferred this to the 2012 bedrock monte rosso zinfandel tried prior, which was more ripe and less nuanced.

Is this a good example of aged cali syrah?
I have had the Icon young, but it was not always 100% Syrah.
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#377 Post by Rich Brown » December 26th, 2019, 6:42 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
December 26th, 2019, 4:27 pm
Sh@n A wrote:
December 25th, 2019, 6:46 pm
Has anyone had the icon syrah? I just did and it was very good. I am not well versed in syrah, or aged syrah or cali syrah, but this wine has got me interested to explore more.

Cork was pristine. Decanted for a bit of fine and chunky sediment. Tried it after a couple hours of air. I found it a bit ripe but not all the way jammy. plush but cool mouthfeel, notes of olives and bacon and a little funk, smooth finish with no heat and a steal for the price paid. Preferred this to the 2012 bedrock monte rosso zinfandel tried prior, which was more ripe and less nuanced.

Is this a good example of aged cali syrah?
I have had the Icon young, but it was not always 100% Syrah.
I think there's 2 different Icon wines. I've had both the Icon (either labeled 'Red Wine' on older vintages or 'mixed blacks' on more recent) and the Icon Syrah (always indicated as such I believe). Much bigger fan of the Red Wine/Mixed Blacks.....but that probably speaks more to my personal taste on the varietals.

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#378 Post by Sh@n A » December 26th, 2019, 7:19 pm

The library offer icon was a 1994 and 100% syrah. It is labeled "Icon sonoma valley 1994 red table wine 13.6% alc", the back label denotes the 100% syrah.
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#379 Post by Rich Brown » December 26th, 2019, 7:35 pm

Sh@n A wrote:
December 26th, 2019, 7:19 pm
The library offer icon was a 1994 and 100% syrah. It is labeled "Icon sonoma valley 1994 red table wine 13.6% alc", the back label denotes the 100% syrah.
Huh. Just checked and CT even lists both a 94 Icon and a 94 Icon Syrah. Possibly same wine entered twice??

Either way, I've def had both and thought I recalled them being labeled appropriately. Maybe it just depends on the vintage or something?? Regardless, glad you dug the wine!!

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#380 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » December 26th, 2019, 7:40 pm

I think the blend varied year to year.
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#381 Post by Andrew W. » December 28th, 2019, 8:23 pm

  • 1992 Ravenswood Cabernet Sauvignon Gregory Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (12/28/2019)
    What a beautiful wine. 1 bottle consumed at Christmas dinner and another 3 days later (it isn't getting any better, enjoy now!). This is drinking beautifully. After 30 minutes open it has a wonderful leather, tobacco and smoke. I sat and enjoyed the bouquet for a while, no fading at all. Bottle 2 was consumed with the several who probably haven't had anything more than 2 yrs old and all spoke of the amazing leather and tobacco notes, without any prompting. This is a real winner from the Ravenswood Library. Rated based on price and overall experience. Drink now, enjoy. (97 pts.)
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#382 Post by Jeremy C » December 29th, 2019, 5:32 pm

How are you guys pulling these corks? Durand, or standard corkscrew?
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#383 Post by Bdklein » December 29th, 2019, 5:37 pm

Andrew W. wrote:
December 28th, 2019, 8:23 pm
  • 1992 Ravenswood Cabernet Sauvignon Gregory Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (12/28/2019)
    What a beautiful wine. 1 bottle consumed at Christmas dinner and another 3 days later (it isn't getting any better, enjoy now!). This is drinking beautifully. After 30 minutes open it has a wonderful leather, tobacco and smoke. I sat and enjoyed the bouquet for a while, no fading at all. Bottle 2 was consumed with the several who probably haven't had anything more than 2 yrs old and all spoke of the amazing leather and tobacco notes, without any prompting. This is a real winner from the Ravenswood Library. Rated based on price and overall experience. Drink now, enjoy. (97 pts.)
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#384 Post by Bdklein » December 29th, 2019, 5:43 pm

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How are you guys pulling these corks? Durand, or standard corkscrew?
I used an Ah So for the first time. The cork broke. When I tried to continue to use it, the cork started to go down into the bottle . I then switched to a regular corkscrew to remove the cork.
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#385 Post by Victor Hong » December 29th, 2019, 6:29 pm

Bdklein wrote:
December 29th, 2019, 5:43 pm
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December 29th, 2019, 5:32 pm
How are you guys pulling these corks? Durand, or standard corkscrew?
I used an Ah So for the first time. The cork broke. When I tried to continue to use it, the cork started to go down into the bottle . I then switched to a regular corkscrew to remove the cork.
Eventually, stuffing the cork into the bottle and using a strainer are easier.
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#386 Post by David Glasser » December 29th, 2019, 10:06 pm

Jeremy C wrote:
December 29th, 2019, 5:32 pm
How are you guys pulling these corks? Durand, or standard corkscrew?
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#387 Post by AlexS » December 30th, 2019, 5:03 pm

Jeremy C wrote:
December 29th, 2019, 5:32 pm
How are you guys pulling these corks? Durand, or standard corkscrew?
I'll repeat:

And for anyone opening these wines without a Durand or waiter's friend/ah so improv combo, good luck...
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#388 Post by Jeremy C » December 30th, 2019, 5:32 pm

AlexS wrote:
December 30th, 2019, 5:03 pm
Jeremy C wrote:
December 29th, 2019, 5:32 pm
How are you guys pulling these corks? Durand, or standard corkscrew?
I'll repeat:

And for anyone opening these wines without a Durand or waiter's friend/ah so improv combo, good luck...
Yes, I had read that, thanks. Was wanting to know what others' experiences were.
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#389 Post by AlexS » December 30th, 2019, 5:39 pm

Jeremy C wrote:
December 30th, 2019, 5:32 pm
AlexS wrote:
December 30th, 2019, 5:03 pm
Jeremy C wrote:
December 29th, 2019, 5:32 pm
How are you guys pulling these corks? Durand, or standard corkscrew?
I'll repeat:

And for anyone opening these wines without a Durand or waiter's friend/ah so improv combo, good luck...
Yes, I had read that, thanks. Was wanting to know what others' experiences were.
I've had quite a few so far and although Victor's strategy of pushing the cork in and straining certainly works, given all the sediment beneath the Ravenswood corks, I wouldn't want to push all of that into the wine.

Either way, if you don't want to spend the money on a Durand (which would be very understandable) just buy an ah so and do the waiter's friend/ah so improv combo.
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#390 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » December 30th, 2019, 6:17 pm

I opened a bottle of 1994 Chamizal merlot, should’ve used the Durand.

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#391 Post by Tom G l a s g o w » December 30th, 2019, 6:23 pm

Tom G l a s g o w wrote:
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I opened a bottle of 1993 Chamizal Zinfandel, should’ve used the Durand.

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#392 Post by Jeremy C » December 30th, 2019, 7:15 pm

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#393 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 4th, 2020, 4:30 pm

Opened the 1994 Ravenswood Sangiacomo Merlot tonight. It’s a real treat. It has a mint and tobacco opening, and still sweet cherry fruit. Fascinating stuff. Never thought I would just casually sip 25 year old California Merlot.

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#394 Post by Nate Simon » January 4th, 2020, 5:21 pm

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#395 Post by Andrew Demaree » January 4th, 2020, 6:12 pm

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Opened the 1994 Ravenswood Sangiacomo Merlot tonight. It’s a real treat. It has a mint and tobacco opening, and still sweet cherry fruit. Fascinating stuff. Never thought I would just casually sip 25 year old California Merlot.

p.s. the cork was pristine
I’ve got a single bottle of the ‘91 that’s standing up in the cellar. You’ve given me hope that it’ll be quite enjoyable.

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#396 Post by Andrew Demaree » February 15th, 2020, 6:58 pm

Opened my lone bottle of the 1991 Ravenswood Sangiacomo Merlot tonight. The cork was moist half way up, but I was able to extract it without issue. I’d been standing this bottle up for more than 2 months, so its sediment had settled and it poured translucent.

The nose was very musty on opening, so I poured two small glasses and let them breathe for 45 minutes. By that point, the mustiness cleared a little, but the palate was decidedly sour and flat.

We revisited at hour two and it hadn’t come along much. At hour three, it was becoming a little better balanced, with some muted fruit present to help offset the acid/sour note. But the nose was still unpleasant.

Last sampling occurred at hour four. By then, the wine had become thin and offered little to recommend check-ins. The rest went down the drain.

I hope my ‘91 Pickberry shows better.

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#397 Post by Demian Saenz » April 19th, 2020, 4:09 pm

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Opened the ‘99 Big River Zinfandel, I must’ve had the lucky cork because it came out in one piece with a waiters corkscrew.

I’m not the best at tasting notes but the wife and I agree definite tobacco, and licorice on the nose, she picked up some mineral notes. The color is a nice dark red with the faintest light red on the edges. I usually like saving a glass or two in the bottle for the rest of the week, but the plan for this bottle was to drink it in one night, the wife isn’t a big fan of wine with this flavor profile so I drank the whole bottle. I hope I make my 8 AM conference call😳😎

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Re: Ravenswood library offer

#398 Post by Bdklein » May 2nd, 2020, 3:08 pm

Bdklein wrote:
December 29th, 2019, 5:37 pm
Andrew W. wrote:
December 28th, 2019, 8:23 pm
  • 1992 Ravenswood Cabernet Sauvignon Gregory Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (12/28/2019)
    What a beautiful wine. 1 bottle consumed at Christmas dinner and another 3 days later (it isn't getting any better, enjoy now!). This is drinking beautifully. After 30 minutes open it has a wonderful leather, tobacco and smoke. I sat and enjoyed the bouquet for a while, no fading at all. Bottle 2 was consumed with the several who probably haven't had anything more than 2 yrs old and all spoke of the amazing leather and tobacco notes, without any prompting. This is a real winner from the Ravenswood Library. Rated based on price and overall experience. Drink now, enjoy. (97 pts.)
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I have no experience with older wines as well; it was a real treat .
Opened the other of the 2 bottles I bought from this offer. This one is the 1994 Pickberry . Doesn't smell and taste good . Will give it some time , but don't think it will improve .
Bruce Klein

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Re: Ravenswood library offer

#399 Post by Bdklein » May 2nd, 2020, 3:29 pm

Bdklein wrote:
May 2nd, 2020, 3:08 pm
Bdklein wrote:
December 29th, 2019, 5:37 pm
Andrew W. wrote:
December 28th, 2019, 8:23 pm
  • 1992 Ravenswood Cabernet Sauvignon Gregory Vineyard - USA, California, Sonoma County, Sonoma Valley (12/28/2019)
    What a beautiful wine. 1 bottle consumed at Christmas dinner and another 3 days later (it isn't getting any better, enjoy now!). This is drinking beautifully. After 30 minutes open it has a wonderful leather, tobacco and smoke. I sat and enjoyed the bouquet for a while, no fading at all. Bottle 2 was consumed with the several who probably haven't had anything more than 2 yrs old and all spoke of the amazing leather and tobacco notes, without any prompting. This is a real winner from the Ravenswood Library. Rated based on price and overall experience. Drink now, enjoy. (97 pts.)
Posted from CellarTracker
I have no experience with older wines as well; it was a real treat .
Opened the other of the 2 bottles I bought from this offer. This one is the 1994 Pickberry . Doesn't smell and taste good . Will give it some time , but don't think it will improve .
The funk is gone . Tastes slightly better .
Bruce Klein

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Re: Ravenswood library offer

#400 Post by C. Keller » May 2nd, 2020, 5:52 pm

I've had 2 or 3 of these bottles from a few cases that my brother purchased. I discovered that aged wine is not for me nor him.
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