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#301 Post by Hank Victor » November 19th, 2019, 6:30 pm

Looks like the shipping company won't release any wine that is traveling through temps higher than 77F.
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#302 Post by Andrew Demaree » November 20th, 2019, 3:57 am

Same here. I’m in upstate NY.

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#303 Post by John Preston » November 20th, 2019, 12:21 pm

My wines will be arriving soon (Chicagoland)...and I wish to thank Erika who exceeded my expectations with the shipping process! Thanks again and I look forward to the wines!

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#304 Post by kyledorsey » November 20th, 2019, 12:24 pm

Arrived today! Very excited to try these.

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#305 Post by Mike Reynolds » November 21st, 2019, 10:20 am

Mine arrived this morning and I am allocated in NJ.

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#306 Post by Jeff_M. » November 21st, 2019, 10:30 am

I see mine is scheduled for a delivery on Monday. Just in time for Thanksgiving!
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#307 Post by JIMCOH » November 21st, 2019, 6:49 pm

Mine arrived today, a day ahead of the original schedule.
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#308 Post by joeduncan » November 22nd, 2019, 9:20 am

Mine shipped to SoCal yesterday, scheduled for Monday also.

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#309 Post by Paul Miller » November 22nd, 2019, 9:31 am

Made it to Chicago yesterday. Should probably cross-post to the styrofoam thread. neener

I did almost get myself in trouble. Sent my wife the shipping notice, but they used the name and logo from their new winery. So my wife is expecting wine from them. Instead, she receives Ravenswood. “So there’s still MORE wine coming?!?!”

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#310 Post by Nate Simon » November 22nd, 2019, 10:21 am

Looking forward to these. We should have a TN master thread.

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#311 Post by Jeff_M. » November 22nd, 2019, 10:23 am

Paul Miller wrote:
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Made it to Chicago yesterday. Should probably cross-post to the styrofoam thread. neener

I did almost get myself in trouble. Sent my wife the shipping notice, but they used the name and logo from their new winery. So my wife is expecting wine from them. Instead, she receives Ravenswood. “So there’s still MORE wine coming?!?!”
There's always MORE wine coming [cheers.gif]
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#312 Post by Tom Chen » November 22nd, 2019, 10:44 am

Got my case today in OC.

Bottles look great, especially given some of the ages on them (back to a 1987).

Looking forward to opening some of these soon!

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#313 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » November 22nd, 2019, 12:40 pm

Mine arrived as well. Look fantastic.
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#314 Post by joeduncan » November 22nd, 2019, 1:29 pm

Who's going to pop one first? Need some notes!

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#315 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » November 22nd, 2019, 1:36 pm

Going to give them at least a week for all the sediment to settle down.
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#316 Post by Sh@n A » November 22nd, 2019, 2:05 pm

Is Zin sediment particularly bitter, should a coffee filter suffice? I plan on giving them a couple weeks though.
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#317 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » November 22nd, 2019, 2:17 pm

A coffee filter will get the job done. I normally free pour the first 75%, but keep an eye on it. Then I filter the last 25%.
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#318 Post by Bdklein » November 22nd, 2019, 7:14 pm

I bought a couple of Cab blends from the early 90s. Thoughts on decanting? I’ve never opened wine more than 8 years old or so .
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#319 Post by AlexS » November 23rd, 2019, 6:52 am

Bruce, I would do what David suggests - set them upright for a week or so, decant carefully for sediment and enjoy the ride.

Personally, I also always hold older bottles up to a strong light to see what kind of sediment I'm dealing with - if it's the more dark and chunky stuff, I'm less worried about decanting the wine perfectly than I am with the really hazy, fine stuff that takes forever to settle.
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#320 Post by Nate Simon » November 23rd, 2019, 7:23 am

Maybe a bit of thread tangent, but I’ve never found it necessary to stand a bottle for more than a day or so. It makes sense when you think about it: how long could it really take for anything to fall the 10 inches or so to the bottom of the bottle?

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#321 Post by AlexS » November 23rd, 2019, 8:06 am

Nate, I hear yah and I've found that it really varies from one older bottle to the next - that really hazy, fine stuff can take a month of Sundays to settle vs. the darker, chunkier stuff. I also think the hazy, fine stuff will impact the wine quality far more if not allowed to settle thoroughly before opening. Also, if a ton of sediment is really coating the sides, I'll give the bottle a little agitation to help dislodge it prior to the stand & settle process.

Anyway, that's just how I view it. Should add I don't have a ton of experience with really old bottles, the kind where many people seem to have great success with the "Audouze" method - oldest bottles I'm opening are generally from the 80s-90s.
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#322 Post by Andrew Demaree » November 23rd, 2019, 8:26 am

I agree with you, Alex, about the fine suspended sediment that creates a haze. I often stand those bottles up for a month before opening. They don’t clear up in just a few days.

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#323 Post by Scot H. » November 23rd, 2019, 8:37 am

Nate Simon wrote:
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Maybe a bit of thread tangent, but I’ve never found it necessary to stand a bottle for more than a day or so. It makes sense when you think about it: how long could it really take for anything to fall the 10 inches or so to the bottom of the bottle?
Maybe a month on an old Nebbiolo.
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#324 Post by Nate Simon » November 23rd, 2019, 9:04 am

Subjected the 1993 Merlot to intense transillumination, and can confirm that it got tha haze. Will see how it goes...standing this one up.

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#325 Post by Bdklein » November 23rd, 2019, 9:09 am

Can you see the hazy particles through a dark bottle ??
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#326 Post by Nate Simon » November 23rd, 2019, 9:12 am

Bdklein wrote:
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Can you see the hazy particles through a dark bottle ??
Yes, backlit by an intense halogen lamp.

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#327 Post by Demian Saenz » November 26th, 2019, 7:56 am

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#328 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » November 26th, 2019, 8:03 am

A gold start to the first one of you to post a tasting note! Anxiously awaiting...

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#329 Post by Paul Miller » November 26th, 2019, 8:24 am

I'll probably pop my Zin this weekend. Maybe a Merlot before then.

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#330 Post by Sh@n A » November 26th, 2019, 8:30 am

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#331 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » November 26th, 2019, 8:33 am

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#332 Post by AlexS » November 26th, 2019, 6:47 pm

Wine arrived and all I can say is wow, these bottles look to be in time capsule condition...actual capsules are all spinning and the corks appear to be in fantastic shape.
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#333 Post by Sh@n A » November 27th, 2019, 9:00 am

For those that were unable to participate, I can trim a couple bottles at my cost to you. For pick up in NYC or I can ship to you (on your label/at your cost, at least 3 bottles). PM me if interested. Offer valid till this weekend!
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#334 Post by joeduncan » November 28th, 2019, 5:28 pm

1998 Ravenswood Estate Merlot.

Dayum. $25? Really? With 21 years of clearly impeccable storage?

Beautiful tart cassis and violet. Soft tannin. This has structure to go at least another 10 years, maybe more, but drinking beautifully and youthfully now. Utterly spectacular value.

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#335 Post by Victor Hong » November 28th, 2019, 5:42 pm

This makes me think about the tremendous library losses of many old-line California wineries, during the Mare Island storage facility arson.
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#336 Post by Bdklein » November 28th, 2019, 6:00 pm

Sh@n A wrote:
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For those that were unable to participate, I can trim a couple bottles at my cost to you. For pick up in NYC or I can ship to you (on your label/at your cost, at least 3 bottles). PM me if interested. Offer valid till this weekend!
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#337 Post by David Baum » November 28th, 2019, 6:04 pm

Victor Hong wrote:
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This makes me think about the tremendous library losses of many old-line California wineries, during the Mare Island storage facility arson.
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#338 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » November 28th, 2019, 6:33 pm

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#339 Post by Paul Miller » November 30th, 2019, 8:55 am

1991 Ravenswood, Merlot, Sangiacomo Vineyard
I've had a number of Pinots and Chards from the vineyard, but nothing from Ravenswood and never a Merlot.
Got this bottle from the Library Sale. Allowed to stand upright for close to 2 weeks. Popped and poured. Cork held together, but was very soft, without any seepage. Nice red color, not too dark, but not light either, certainly more red around the edges without any amber. Had a hazy appearance even though had been standing. Nice aroma, no old odd smells. Very nice wine. Had a streak of blackberry that gave way to more sweet cherry flavors. Very smooth texture. Not tannic, nothing gipping, limited backbone. Began to get slightly tart. Afterwards, could see sediment on the side of the bottle, and some sediment in our glasses. Was very enjoyable. Paired over Thanksgiving with lamb chops, brussel sprouts and creamed corn.

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#340 Post by AlexS » November 30th, 2019, 9:18 am

Paul, great minds - so last night, I opened up the 1989 Summers Vineyard Merlot, can't say I noticed any haze...in fact, there wasn't very much sediment at all aside from a little bit on the shoulder (still, I stood it up for a week). Immediately off the pop, the aromas were fantastic - just filled with all the lovely dark, plumby fruits and hints of spice that I associate with quality Merlot. Funnily enough, after about 30-40 minutes, it just went silent...from the nose through the palate, all of the flavor and nuance mostly just disappeared. I've had this happen before but usually it's more of a gradual process over a few hours. Saved a bit to check on today and it's the same. Still an enjoyable wine but I'm going to make sure to open up my remaining bottle with friends/family so it can be consumed while it's giving.
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#341 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » November 30th, 2019, 9:22 am

We had the 92 Estate Merlot. Been standing up since delivery.

Wine in magnificent shape and it really demonstrated the silky, softer aspects of the grape as we had some 97 Renaissance Cab Sav in other identical stems to compare with. Still some blue fruit that lived all these years, lots of eucalyptus or menthol, faintest tannin could be found if you sought it out. We thought the wine displayed great structure and finish.

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#342 Post by Paul Miller » November 30th, 2019, 9:32 am

To Alex's point, yeah, once opened, time may be of the essence. We have friends coming over tonight who will appreciate the Zin I got. We'll pop it tonight, and I will post later.

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#343 Post by joeduncan » November 30th, 2019, 11:15 am

As a counterpoint relevant to the younger wines, the 1998 estate Merlot was great for the final glass a day later. Just vacuvin'd and stored in the fridge. But as I originally noted, I felt it had plenty of stuffing upon opening.

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#344 Post by Paul Miller » December 2nd, 2019, 3:14 pm

1992 Ravenswood Zin, Sonoma County
Had friends over Saturday night. Big Zin night. I had three Zins from Bedrock Vineyard, all from 2013. Did a shootout. But beforehand, I opened the Ravenswood. Still drinking nicely. On open, it tasted like an aged wine: that was everyone's first thought - it's an old wine. Would be a little tough to tell what it was at first, except it had some decent spice to it. A little peppery. Otherwise, it tasted like a very smoothed out wine. But with some air, it opened and more fruit came through, some red cherry. Popped-and-poured, so with 4+ people, it went quick. Threw a fair amount of sediment, and the cork broke on me (but I was able to get the second half out). All-in-all, a nice wine.

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#345 Post by AlexS » December 2nd, 2019, 4:58 pm

For anyone who grabbed the 1989 Sonoma County Cabernet Sauvignon, you did very well...just awesomeness and at $25 per, holy man what a deal!
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#346 Post by J. Singleton » December 2nd, 2019, 6:20 pm

AlexS wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 4:58 pm
For anyone who grabbed the 1989 Sonoma County Cabernet Sauvignon, you did very well...just awesomeness and at $25 per, holy man what a deal!
Agreed. Actually Pobega’d one and it had more life the a ‘99 Renaissance I had the week before. I’d never guess it was 30 years old.
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#347 Post by AlexS » December 2nd, 2019, 6:33 pm

J. Singleton wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 6:20 pm
AlexS wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 4:58 pm
For anyone who grabbed the 1989 Sonoma County Cabernet Sauvignon, you did very well...just awesomeness and at $25 per, holy man what a deal!
Agreed. Actually Pobega’d one and it had more life the a ‘99 Renaissance I had the week before. I’d never guess it was 30 years old.
I mean, how much do you think were they on release -- $10-$15 per?? Such an awesome Cab, so incredibly thankful these were made available for wine appreciators/nerds like all of us posting in this thread - thx so much Joel!!!!!!
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#348 Post by Paul Miller » December 2nd, 2019, 6:41 pm

AlexS wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 6:33 pm
J. Singleton wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 6:20 pm
AlexS wrote:
December 2nd, 2019, 4:58 pm
For anyone who grabbed the 1989 Sonoma County Cabernet Sauvignon, you did very well...just awesomeness and at $25 per, holy man what a deal!
Agreed. Actually Pobega’d one and it had more life the a ‘99 Renaissance I had the week before. I’d never guess it was 30 years old.
I mean, how much do you think were they on release -- $10-$15 per?? Such an awesome Cab, so incredibly thankful these were made available for wine appreciators/nerds like all of us posting in this thread - thx so much Joel!!!!!!
Yes! I got one!

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#349 Post by AlexS » December 2nd, 2019, 6:51 pm

Awesome!!!
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#350 Post by Ron Slye » December 2nd, 2019, 8:58 pm

Me too! The 1988 Gregory Cab I opened the other day was similarly amazing.

A very sincere thank you for making this possible. I have always been hesitant to buy older bottles of wine. But direct from the source like this and at such great prices, hard to go wrong. I just wish I had bought more!

[Edit -- I mistakenly typed 1989; it was a 1988]

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