thoughts on decanting a 1975 Yquem?

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thoughts on decanting a 1975 Yquem?

#1 Post by jdgcrean » September 11th, 2019, 10:22 am

looking for any guidance on decant timing. notes on cellartracker are a bit varied, but thinking a 2 hour decant? hoping for a stellar first experience with yquem!
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#2 Post by Jeff_M. » September 11th, 2019, 10:37 am

We pop and pour Sauternes when we drink them and let them open up in the glass. They tend to get better when the wine loses the chill from being cellared.
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#3 Post by Steve Crawford » September 11th, 2019, 10:46 am

I agree- I would just let your glass do the decanting, swirl and enjoy. pairing this with something special or just enjoying by itself?

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#4 Post by A. So » September 11th, 2019, 10:49 am

A decant is a must for Yquem. It is a wine that needs incredible amounts of air. Often it is opened for dessert as an afterthought, but it is a wine that should be put into a decanter when dinner starts, or even before.
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Re: thoughts on decanting a 1975 Yquem?

#5 Post by Mark Y » September 11th, 2019, 11:01 am

A. So wrote:
September 11th, 2019, 10:49 am
A decant is a must for Yquem. It is a wine that needs incredible amounts of air. Often it is opened for dessert as an afterthought, but it is a wine that should be put into a decanter when dinner starts, or even before.
Agreed.. definitely decant.. but how long for a 75? any fears of falling apart?
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#6 Post by AAgrawal » September 11th, 2019, 11:15 am

For reference, I had a 1975 Yquem from half in 2011 and thought it was great the first night (not decanted, served from bottle), and actually slightly better the 2nd night. So opening 6 hours before or decanting for a bit certainly has more upside than downside.
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#7 Post by A. So » September 11th, 2019, 11:42 am

Mark Y wrote:
September 11th, 2019, 11:01 am
A. So wrote:
September 11th, 2019, 10:49 am
A decant is a must for Yquem. It is a wine that needs incredible amounts of air. Often it is opened for dessert as an afterthought, but it is a wine that should be put into a decanter when dinner starts, or even before.
Agreed.. definitely decant.. but how long for a 75? any fears of falling apart?
I'd start worrying on the 3rd day.
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#8 Post by Mark Y » September 11th, 2019, 12:17 pm

A. So wrote:
September 11th, 2019, 11:42 am
Mark Y wrote:
September 11th, 2019, 11:01 am
A. So wrote:
September 11th, 2019, 10:49 am
A decant is a must for Yquem. It is a wine that needs incredible amounts of air. Often it is opened for dessert as an afterthought, but it is a wine that should be put into a decanter when dinner starts, or even before.
Agreed.. definitely decant.. but how long for a 75? any fears of falling apart?
I'd start worrying on the 3rd day.
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#9 Post by etomasi » September 11th, 2019, 12:43 pm

I would also decant ahead of time. The bottle we had last year was showing really young. If you are doing a long dinner, I would open at the beginning and decant. If not, then I would recommend opening 2-4 hrs before drinking.
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#10 Post by jdgcrean » September 12th, 2019, 10:52 am

many thanks for the thoughts - very helpful!
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#11 Post by Jeff Leve » September 12th, 2019, 11:48 am

I do not see any reason to decant Sauternes. I do not see it getting better in the glass. Having been to d'Yquem numerous times. it is not something they do at the estate.

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#12 Post by Yao C » September 12th, 2019, 5:33 pm

Jeff Leve wrote:
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I do not see any reason to decant Sauternes. I do not see it getting better in the glass. Having been to d'Yquem numerous times. it is not something they do at the estate.
I've found that Yquem from good bottles almost always benefits from several hours of air: it shows more complexity, grows in richness, and gets to blow off some of the funk than you can get from an old bottle. I've never dared to decant a day in advance, but perhaps I should

Caveat: I've had a few damaged bottles (auctions, sigh) where the wine only goes downhill after opening. If the provenance/quality of the bottle is in doubt, might be better to decant at the start of dinner
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#13 Post by ybarselah » September 12th, 2019, 6:06 pm

birthyear wine for me. only had it once from half bottle. maybe top 10 wines of all time. maybe top 5. i'd decant for at least an hour, likely more. it's still young. you're in for a treat. i wish i would have bought some before it was crazy. likely still worth it at current pricing. it's a legend.
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#14 Post by maureen nelson » September 12th, 2019, 6:27 pm

Bérénice Lurton Told me she always decants Climens. And although I don’t drink much Sauternes now I used to - and I assure that although in theory the wine can open in the glass, the reality is that people will drink it before it has a chance to open. So decant at least 90 minutes before and take it out of the fridge 30 minutes before you want to drink it (or brink it up from the cellar 15 minutes before).

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#15 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s » September 12th, 2019, 6:36 pm

I’ve always decanted Sauternes the same way - young (13 years) or old (90 years) - at least an hour before and rest the decanter on ice to serve cool.
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#16 Post by Humberto Dorta » September 13th, 2019, 4:22 am

Opened a 750 last year. That wine will not fall appart.
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#17 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » September 13th, 2019, 4:33 am

I would slow ox rather than decant, but that’s just me.

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#18 Post by Richard Albert » September 13th, 2019, 8:32 am

I agree a great complex Sauternes shows better not too cold. I have not decanted one to this point.
The early descriptor of development as glacial has applied perfectly for my 1975 over the decades buried in the cellar. However, Greenland just crossed my mind, so I checked on my half bottle. It is a gorgeous, deep pure gold hue, so another four years for a significant celebration will be the fulfillment of its destiny.

Bought it after having a 1967, my initiation to Y world. I recall using "flavor circus' as my overall descriptor for the super viscous, apricot, honey, butterscotch, citrus explosion in my head which lingered for minutes. I anticipate a more elegant experience from the 75. Salivating...a 1988 Climens has just been designated as on deck.
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Re: thoughts on decanting a 1975 Yquem?

#19 Post by Gerhard P. » September 13th, 2019, 9:13 am

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
September 13th, 2019, 4:33 am
I would slow ox rather than decant, but that’s just me.
I couldn't agree more, but we will remain in the minority here.
I' d slow-ox for 3+ hours ... then taste, then decant for what you think is necessary, usually 2-3 hours ...
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Re: thoughts on decanting a 1975 Yquem?

#20 Post by Herwig Janssen » September 13th, 2019, 2:08 pm

I always slow ox , never decant old yquem . Young Yquem , maybe it would benefit from a decant . But 75 is not young .

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Re: thoughts on decanting a 1975 Yquem?

#21 Post by Mark Thompson » September 13th, 2019, 2:49 pm

Lots of opinions on each side. I opened a 375 of the 76 recently that was still very young. Frankly, if in the company of other wine geeks I’d consider immediately decanting half the bottle into a 375 to then slow ox from there (with a little extra air introduced from pouring). I’d then put the rest in a decanter and do a side by side a few hours later. Finally, I’d report back the results on this thread.

Of course any group of non-wine geek friends might have you committed for such wacky behavior, so there’s that..

Either way, I’d be shocked if a correct bottle of that vintage deteriorated with a few (or even several) hours of air.

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#22 Post by edwardmilstein » September 14th, 2019, 6:43 am

There is really no limit on decanting.Have had open bottles in my fridge for unlimited( years ) periods of time with very little degradation.An hour or 2 should be enough for a 75,younger vintages I'd decant longer, depending on age.
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#23 Post by jdgcrean » September 15th, 2019, 5:52 am

Ended up decanting at the start of dinner. Beautiful aroma filled the room when I pulled the cork. Wine spent three hours before being served in glasses. Incredible power and length, with certainly no sign of slowing down. Agree with some of the cellar tracker notes - this wine has years ahead of it. Unbelievable for a 44 year old wine, and great first time tasting Yquem.
Many thanks for all the guidance!
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