I Went Back to WA.

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I Went Back to WA.

#1 Post by David Cooper » September 10th, 2019, 8:53 am

I am probably the outlier here but I have gone back to the Advocate and am giving up Vinous. The Spain coverage is vastly superior with LG, it seems like Josh Raynold's isn't really into covering Iberia. I also am interested in reading William Kelly's notes and articles.

So far I am enjoying the new format.

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#2 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » September 10th, 2019, 8:55 am

William’s notes and vintage summaries are superb. Was just reading his commentary and some specific wine notes on 2018 Beaujolais producers. Excellent write-ups.

"@lf3rt was clearly raised in an outhouse in the Loire. . . ."

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#3 Post by David Cooper » September 10th, 2019, 9:04 am

Robert. Yes, his notes on Beaujolais are one of the reasons I subscribed again. Have recently had some great wines from Brugaud, Roilette and Thivin and want to know more.

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#4 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » September 10th, 2019, 9:07 am

William is a huge fan of Bouland. I have always been as well, but must admit, he really nailed the 2017s. Actually, Bouland nailed the 2017, and William nailed the notes.

I’m about to grab a variety of 2018s.

"@lf3rt was clearly raised in an outhouse in the Loire. . . ."

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#5 Post by Gus Siokis » September 10th, 2019, 10:34 am

Nope! I never left....love William and LG's reviews.
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#6 Post by Richard T r i m p i » September 10th, 2019, 12:29 pm

"Been down one time
Been down two times
Never going back again"

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#7 Post by Jim Clary » September 10th, 2019, 12:58 pm

David Cooper wrote:
September 10th, 2019, 8:53 am
I am probably the outlier here but I have gone back to the Advocate and am giving up Vinous. The Spain coverage is vastly superior with LG, it seems like Josh Raynold's isn't really into covering Iberia. I also am interested in reading William Kelly's notes and articles.

So far I am enjoying the new format.
Is there a new more reader-friendly format? I hate trying to read their reviews online with the format I am familiar with.
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#8 Post by M.Kaplan » September 10th, 2019, 4:36 pm

I wish Kelley wrote for another publication. Any other publication. I like his writing and his sensibilities, but refuse to patronize LPB or Parker (in case he still has any remaining involvement of any kind). If Kelley were to go to Vinous or Jancis, I'd subscribe to either.
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#9 Post by Robert Titelman » September 10th, 2019, 6:30 pm

I would likely go back to WA if it automatically integrated with CellarTracker

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#10 Post by AndyK » September 10th, 2019, 7:00 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:
September 10th, 2019, 4:36 pm
I wish Kelley wrote for another publication. Any other publication. I like his writing and his sensibilities, but refuse to patronize LPB or Parker (in case he still has any remaining involvement of any kind). If Kelley were to go to Vinous or Jancis, I'd subscribe to either.
+1

I actually wish he wrote for Vinous...
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#11 Post by Peter Petersen » September 10th, 2019, 7:52 pm

From what I see online I also like what William Kelley and LG have to say. I'm not hugely enthusiastic about Vinous, but I do like Josh a lot even if his reviews are not as timely as they could be.
Does TWA have a good reviewer for Oregon? Is their format readable?

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#12 Post by David Cooper » September 12th, 2019, 10:44 am

The format seems to be improved. There are links to articles etc inside the notes.

I suppose I left before the place went sideways, because I have no hard feelings, and some good memories from posting on the board.

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#13 Post by William Kelley » September 12th, 2019, 12:01 pm

Thanks for all the kind words, folks, it is very warmly appreciated indeed!
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#14 Post by Jürgen Steinke » September 12th, 2019, 12:35 pm

I think too that Kelly is a huge advantage for WA because WA had a lot of negative press lately. And I find it very sympathetic that Kelly is participating here. I find his tone very refreshing and positive. Bravo.

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#15 Post by ybarselah » September 12th, 2019, 12:48 pm

Robert Titelman wrote:
September 10th, 2019, 6:30 pm
I would likely go back to WA if it automatically integrated with CellarTracker
pretty sure eric has been working on this... stay tuned.
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#16 Post by Robert Dentice » September 12th, 2019, 12:54 pm

M.Kaplan wrote:
September 10th, 2019, 4:36 pm
I wish Kelley wrote for another publication. Any other publication. I like his writing and his sensibilities, but refuse to patronize LPB or Parker (in case he still has any remaining involvement of any kind). If Kelley were to go to Vinous or Jancis, I'd subscribe to either.
Same here. I just can't stand the level of arrogance and complete total disregard for their customers.

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