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#1 Post by Jim Anderson » August 29th, 2019, 9:56 am

Taking a shot in the dark. Our former distributor in CT has stopped paying us on a $15k debt. Actually the debt is well over 2 years old and their feeble payments stopped over a year ago. I retained an attorney here in Oregon and today we got a judgment filed against them. I now need a CT based attorney to execute the judgment and go about exacting payment. Honestly I don’t expect to see this paid out but I sure as hell am not going to simply walk away from that money when their business is still functioning.

Anyone have the capacity or a recommendation for someone who doesn’t F around? Please let me know.
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#2 Post by Markus S » August 29th, 2019, 10:24 am

No idea, but thought it ironic that the ad shown when I opened that was for a lawyer!
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#3 Post by Bob Davis » August 29th, 2019, 11:06 am

Sounds like a wholesaler in Maryland many years ago. They stiffed people all over California . Good luck.
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#4 Post by ChristopherSK » August 29th, 2019, 11:27 am

Jim, pm sent with a recommendation of someone who can either help you or should be able to point you in the right direction.
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#5 Post by Nathan Smyth » August 29th, 2019, 11:32 am

ironic that the ad shown when I opened that was for a lawyer
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#6 Post by Hank Victor » August 29th, 2019, 2:53 pm

Is there no "blacklisting" a distributor in the three tier system?


If a retailer misses a payment for one distributor they can be blacklisted and unable to order from any other distributor until that debt is payed.
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#7 Post by Mike Evans » August 29th, 2019, 10:10 pm

In most states the distributors essentially own the legislators and effectively write the laws for their own benefit.

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#8 Post by NED VALOIS » August 29th, 2019, 10:21 pm

Yo,
I know dis guy......

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#9 Post by Paul McCourt » August 30th, 2019, 5:30 am

Mike Evans wrote:
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In most states the distributors essentially own the legislators and effectively write the laws for their own benefit.
No kidding. Here in NY it is absolutely appalling.
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#10 Post by RichardFlack » August 30th, 2019, 5:41 am

And there I was thinking you were looking for a Cellar Tracker lawyer..,.

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#11 Post by Jim Anderson » August 30th, 2019, 5:58 am

NED VALOIS wrote:
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Yo,
I know dis guy......
That’s Option #2!
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#12 Post by MitchTallan » August 30th, 2019, 7:26 am

Jim;
I would take care of it for you gratis if it were in Ohio. That said, trying to levy a judgment from another state as against an incorporated entity is kind of a circle jerk for lack of a nicer description. The biggest hurdle is converting a judgment into motivation for payment. You probably know this already, but a judgment is nice to look at, but it does not get you paid. Attaching assets is the hard part.
Your best bet imho is to call the Bar Association for whichever major city is closest to this distributor and ask for a referral to a "commercial collections" lawyer. The local bar association is likely to give your three firm names.

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#13 Post by Robert Dentice » August 30th, 2019, 7:45 am

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Jim;
I would take care of it for you gratis if it were in Ohio. That said, trying to levy a judgment from another state as against an incorporated entity is kind of a circle jerk for lack of a nicer description. The biggest hurdle is converting a judgment into motivation for payment. You probably know this already, but a judgment is nice to look at, but it does not get you paid. Attaching assets is the hard part.
Your best bet imho is to call the Bar Association for whichever major city is closest to this distributor and ask for a referral to a "commercial collections" lawyer. The local bar association is likely to give your three firm names.
Your best bet is to out them.

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#14 Post by Nola Palomar » August 30th, 2019, 7:56 am

We had the same thing happen in Chicago, Las Vegas and NY. Bastards, never got paid.
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#15 Post by Victor Hong » August 30th, 2019, 8:25 am

Nola Palomar wrote:
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We had the same thing happen in Chicago, Las Vegas and NY. Bastards, never got paid.
David R. is a piece, alright.
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#16 Post by Jim Anderson » August 30th, 2019, 8:41 am

Update: I have, through this site, a CT based attorney that has looked into stuff for us and is in contact with our Oregon attorney at present. When he fees like he’s properly brought up to date he will proceed. Every option is on the table as far as I am concerned. We shall see where we go from here. Hopefully we can at least create some delicious anguish on their end.
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#17 Post by Victor Hong » August 30th, 2019, 8:48 am

Jim Anderson wrote:
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........When he fees like he’s properly brought up to date he will proceed...........
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#18 Post by Victor Hong » August 30th, 2019, 8:50 am

Post the court judgment, so that other business can learn via Google what a great distributor that firm is.....or not.
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#19 Post by Nola Palomar » August 30th, 2019, 9:30 am

Victor Hong wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 8:25 am
Nola Palomar wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 7:56 am
We had the same thing happen in Chicago, Las Vegas and NY. Bastards, never got paid.
David R. is a piece, alright.
Yeah, but my situation was with an partner of Wolfson. Dude by the name of Paul Jones.
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#20 Post by Jim Anderson » August 30th, 2019, 9:39 am

Victor Hong wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 8:48 am
Jim Anderson wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 8:41 am
........When he fees like he’s properly brought up to date he will proceed...........
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#21 Post by NED VALOIS » August 30th, 2019, 9:48 am

Jim Anderson wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 9:39 am
Victor Hong wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 8:48 am
Jim Anderson wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 8:41 am
........When he fees like he’s properly brought up to date he will proceed...........
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#22 Post by Vincent Fritzsche » August 30th, 2019, 10:01 am

Jim Anderson wrote:
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Every option is on the table
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#23 Post by Kris Patten » August 31st, 2019, 5:24 pm

Jim,

Don't you have some DA's or something you can withhold?

I'd love to say everyone in this industry works with integrity, because it really is people industry and things like this travel, but like every industry there are bad people.
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#24 Post by William Woodruff » August 31st, 2019, 10:22 pm

Jim,

I am sorry to hear about your experience.

Please PM me, I want to avoid working with this firm.
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#25 Post by Karen Troisi » September 3rd, 2019, 9:25 am

Jim,

Same as William - can you DM me please.

Thanks.

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#26 Post by John Morris » September 3rd, 2019, 10:17 am

Jim Anderson wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 5:58 am
NED VALOIS wrote:
August 29th, 2019, 10:21 pm
Yo,
I know dis guy......
That’s Option #2!
I know dis guy who knows dat kind of guy in Rhode Island. I'd guess he makes house calls.
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#27 Post by GregP » September 3rd, 2019, 10:54 am

Nola Palomar wrote:
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We had the same thing happen in Chicago, Las Vegas and NY. Bastards, never got paid.
Which Las Vegas distributor?
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#28 Post by Nola Palomar » September 3rd, 2019, 11:03 am

GregP wrote:
September 3rd, 2019, 10:54 am
Nola Palomar wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 7:56 am
We had the same thing happen in Chicago, Las Vegas and NY. Bastards, never got paid.
Which Las Vegas distributor?
It was Parc Ave. Filed for Bankruptcy then recently I got a notice the bankruptcy was dismissed. Still no payment.
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#29 Post by GregP » September 3rd, 2019, 2:01 pm

Nola Palomar wrote:
September 3rd, 2019, 11:03 am
GregP wrote:
September 3rd, 2019, 10:54 am
Nola Palomar wrote:
August 30th, 2019, 7:56 am
We had the same thing happen in Chicago, Las Vegas and NY. Bastards, never got paid.
Which Las Vegas distributor?
It was Parc Ave. Filed for Bankruptcy then recently I got a notice the bankruptcy was dismissed. Still no payment.
Never even knew they existed. Sorry to hear. There are, literally, 3 or 4 reputable small guys to deal with, the rest I wouldn't even talk to. For obvious reasons, as you can see. Lack of money is not the only issue, its access to accounts.

We got stiffed a couple of times, same as OP. Once in MA, another one in Kansas. Took a bit, but Kansas guy finally paid up (thanks to the board member ITB who helped out). MA one, roughly $25K owed, never paid.

Forget distributors, shops/bars in CA at times abuse the small guys. One shop in Pleasant Hill was notorious, seems they finally closed doors a few years ago (too bad I learned only too late, and I was the only one to report them to ABC, others were playing the "hope" game, crazy). Oakville Grocery, stiffed a good number of people, we were in for ~$2.5K at the time before most figured out what's going on. Bar wine in Danville, CA, manager used his prior connections to stock up, all snorted up his nose, literally. Another uncollectable ~1.5K down the drain, or, rather more accurately, nose. Eventual text message with a "Sorry, man, didn't mean to do to this to you, I have a drug problem".
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#30 Post by Doug Schulman » September 4th, 2019, 9:33 am

GregP wrote:
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MA one, roughly $25K owed, never paid.
What company? Feel free to PM if you'd rather.
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