TN: 2000 Joseph Roty Gevrey Chambertin 1er Les Fontenys

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TN: 2000 Joseph Roty Gevrey Chambertin 1er Les Fontenys

#1 Post by A S K R O B A C K » August 18th, 2019, 3:58 pm

TN: 2000 Joseph Roty Gevrey Chambertin 1er Les Fontenys. I have finally decided that I simply hate what I assume is this estate’s use of wood. It’s absurd. With a few exceptions occasionally found in some (and only some) of the Marsannays bottlings, I regularly find a hard drying finish on the end of what would otherwise be a lovely underlying wine. I know 2000 is not the juiciest vintage, but there is some lovely fruit underneath the raw wood that I do not think will ever be allowed to shine. A shame – I think this wine is serving a life term. Pardon me…I have to find the tweezers to remove the splinters. $42. 80 points.

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#2 Post by m. ristev » August 18th, 2019, 4:41 pm

i have only tried the marsannay wines but all i got was oak...
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#3 Post by A S K R O B A C K » August 18th, 2019, 5:12 pm

This cuvee is much more problematic. With a few hours of air, the impression of raw wood has morphed into charred wood. This is a massive dissapointment.
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#4 Post by Jay Miller » August 18th, 2019, 5:26 pm

In my experience the Roty wines are particularly bad/show the effects of overoaking in lighter vintages. In good ones they eventually integrate but in 1997 or 2000, feh..
Ripe fruit isn't necessarily a flaw.

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#5 Post by A S K R O B A C K » August 18th, 2019, 5:39 pm

Good to know, Jay. Still, I don't understand the theory of the winemaking.
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#6 Post by Jay Miller » August 18th, 2019, 5:43 pm

A S K R O B A C K wrote:
August 18th, 2019, 5:39 pm
Good to know, Jay. Still, I don't understand the theory of the winemaking.
I've had some very, very good ones but also some egregiously bad ones. Not a producer I buy any more.

I still have one or two bottles of 1993 Fontenys which was a very good vintage for them.
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#7 Post by A S K R O B A C K » August 18th, 2019, 5:46 pm

yep - they are on my "no mas" list unless I see the Marsannay discounted in a fruity vintage.
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#8 Post by alan weinberg » August 18th, 2019, 6:24 pm

Joseph Roty was a heavy smoker, died of throat cancer. Bet the smoking dulled his palate and he overoaked. I used to like the Griotte. Son now is winemaker, haven’t tried the more recent wines, got too costly.

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#9 Post by john stimson » August 18th, 2019, 9:46 pm

I didn't even know they made a Griotte. I've found that everything is over-oaked until you get to the Charmes and the Mazy. with age, I've had some very nice examples (93, 95). 1990 was somewhat raisiny.

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#10 Post by Jürgen Steinke » August 19th, 2019, 2:24 am

I like his Marsannay a lot. IMO the best Marsannay available. But they need some time.

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