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#1 Post by Doug Lee » August 7th, 2019, 9:07 am

Came across this bottle in a Cannon Beach wine shop and went for it. Crumbly, wine soaked cork. Surprisingly opaque ruby color. Billowing, piercing floral and iron-inflected nose with wafts of black cherry and rounded plum scents. Delicate yet steely layers of tangy raspberry and black cherry fruit mixed with iron granules and earth on the satin-textured palate. Lovely acidity and filed off tannin leading to a longer finish of ferric notes cut with chimes of shimmering red fruit. Very much alive at age 40, this wine exemplified the timelessness of wine. What an incredible treat.

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#2 Post by Dennis Atick » August 7th, 2019, 9:11 am

Doug Lee wrote:
August 7th, 2019, 9:07 am
Came across this bottle in a Cannon Beach wine shop and went for it. Crumbly, wine soaked cork. Surprisingly opaque ruby color. Billowing, piercing floral and iron-inflected nose with wafts of black cherry and rounded plum scents. Delicate yet steely layers of tangy raspberry and black cherry fruit mixed with iron granules and earth on the satin-textured palate. Lovely acidity and filed off tannin leading to a longer finish of ferric notes cut with chimes of shimmering red fruit. Very much alive at age 40, this wine exemplified the timelessness of wine. What an incredible treat.

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Awesome find, Doug! What a treat. Drouhin CdM is a fave of mine. I've only gone back to '85. They age gracefully and over-deliver in context of the usual cost of great Burgundy.
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#3 Post by PCLIN » August 7th, 2019, 9:18 am

Nice note.
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#4 Post by Doug Lee » August 7th, 2019, 9:28 am

Dennis and Chiu,

Yes I got very lucky on this one! I have to agree, the CdM rouge endures as Joseph Drouhin’s best example of quality available to standard earthlings.

Dennis I can imagine the 1985 would be quite delicious right about now.

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#5 Post by Jayson Cohen » August 7th, 2019, 10:29 am

Very nice find.

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#6 Post by Doug Lee » August 7th, 2019, 10:40 am

Jayson,

I’ll say. Oldest vintage of wine I have sampled.

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#7 Post by Greg K » August 7th, 2019, 11:10 am

Great find, as it's my birth year. :) I've yet to have a 79 Burgundy, though will likely change that this year.
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#8 Post by Doug Lee » August 7th, 2019, 11:17 am

Greg,

Good one. Welcome to the 40’s (twenty five years ago for me).

Please post on the ‘79 you do end up sampling.

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#9 Post by Dale Williams » August 7th, 2019, 11:27 am

Nice post. I've only had this once 3 years ago, carried to 10th anniversary of my Westchester wine group (I had brought the 79 Drouhin CdBeze to the initial meeting in 2006, this was closest thing I had left). Showed well. Drouhin did well overall in '79 I think, not usually a vintage I really look for.
Mouches in general has given a lot of bang for the buck for a long time.

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#10 Post by Vincent Fritzsche » August 7th, 2019, 12:27 pm

That’s fantastic, I saw that bottle at Laurel’s but passes in favor of an ‘80s OR Pinot from Cameron. That CdM looked really enticing though. Glad the storage (as I expected) was fine. Not many better places than the Oregon coast for keeping wine.
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#11 Post by Doug Lee » August 7th, 2019, 3:15 pm

Dale,

The Bèze must have been a hoot to drink (have one bottle of 2010 which will sleep for a decade yet).

Vincent,

Glad you left the Mouches for me (thanks!)! Hope the Cameron showed well.


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#12 Post by Jeremy Holmes » August 7th, 2019, 4:31 pm

Great stuff Doug.

Have had the '90 a couple of times recently. It still has 'bags of life'.
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#13 Post by Doug Lee » August 7th, 2019, 4:44 pm

Jeremy,

I have not yet had the pleasure of trying the 1990 but will be on the lookout. Bags of life indeed - shades of Clive Coates!

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#14 Post by alan weinberg » August 7th, 2019, 4:48 pm

I have had similar experiences and always laugh at “expert” drinking windows that are so early and so narrow. Even “lesser” Burgundies drink well for a very long time.

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#15 Post by Doug Lee » August 7th, 2019, 8:34 pm

Have to agree Alan. This was definitely kicking.

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#16 Post by dcornutt » August 9th, 2019, 2:25 am

The oldest I have ever tasted from Drouhin was a 1959 at Veritas in the 2000s. It was on the list. One of the best treats of the year. A spectacular wine. I love this bottling just like I love the Jadot Beaune Clos des Ursules. They age forever. Great note Doug on the 1979. It sounds wonderful.
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#17 Post by Frederico L e e » August 9th, 2019, 4:20 am

I have 3 bottles of 2015 Drouhin Clos des Mouches Rouge. How long do I need to wait to enjoy them? 20 years? :(

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#18 Post by Doug Lee » August 9th, 2019, 7:35 am

Don,

That sounds fantastic. What an experience. It really is like opening a time capsule. It puts the aging of wine into a totally different perspective (for me).


Frederico,

Although this thread nicely discusses how long one can wait, it doesn’t yet address how early! Depends on how you like to follow the vintage’s evolution, which is a very personal thing. For what it’s worth, if I had just three bottles I would wait 15-20 years after the vintage.


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#19 Post by Andrew Dodd » August 9th, 2019, 7:41 am

Had a '91 a few years back, was dead a doorknob for me....

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#20 Post by Doug Lee » August 9th, 2019, 8:25 am

Andrew,

Ah that is unfortunate. Chances are good that a second try, from virtually any vintage, will be successful.

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#21 Post by wspohn » August 9th, 2019, 2:43 pm

Pretty iffy at that age - so nice when you luck out - makes you feel better about the old wines you may have taken a chance on that didn't pan out. No flies on that bottle....oh, wait....
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#22 Post by Doug Lee » August 9th, 2019, 5:11 pm

Bill,

I certainly lucked out.

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#23 Post by wspohn » August 9th, 2019, 5:18 pm

The hard part is acting like you never had any doubt that it would be brilliant. That can be hard to pull off.... [cheers.gif]
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#24 Post by Dale Williams » August 9th, 2019, 5:53 pm

Andrew Dodd wrote:
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Had a '91 a few years back, was dead a doorknob for me....
I'm a huge Mouches fan, and like a lot of '91s, but didn't love the '91 Mouches. At a vertical about 10 years ago it wasn't dead, but was a bit short and hard. It's the only CdMouches I ever remember being disappointed in (other than corked or cooked bottles). I think Cote de Nuits is more dependable in 1991.

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#25 Post by Doug Lee » August 10th, 2019, 7:28 am

Bill,

In this case the crumbling, wine-soaked cork with fungus on top had me apologizing to the wife about impulse buying, so expectations were set appropriately low. There was ultimately joy in Mudville, however.


Dale,

Good historical perspective. I have not had an opportunity to sample a Cote de Beaune from 1991.



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#26 Post by wspohn » August 10th, 2019, 9:34 am

In terms of corks, I can bet that!

We set up a wine dinner to honour and drink some older wines. One of the bottles was a jeroboam of a fairly old Pomerol (IIRC). With all of the attendees seated, my friend ceremoniously went to uncork the wine (which was old enough that we feared for its condition and didn't want to open ahead and maybe have it die before we tasted it). That size of bottle is the break from the standard sized cork to a larger one. When my friend touched the cork with the corkscrew, with everyone watching, the cork simply dropped into the bottle......(the wine was good, though!). Good job the cork hadn't done that while laying in the cellar....

Speaking of corks, I once had an old style Priorat - the sort that I doubt they make any more - can't see through them for about 20 years even if you hold them up to the sun, and they throw a sediment you wouldn't believe. I pulled a 25 year old one to sample and when I went to open it, there was no cork. Nor were there any remnants in the bottle. They had bottled this one without a cork, the lead capsule wasn't one that had any holes, and the sediment in the wine had dried and sealed it up for the next quarter century. I ended up pouring it down the drain as I felt that drinking/tasting something that had been in direct contact with lead might be contraindicated from a health point of view.
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#27 Post by Doug Lee » August 10th, 2019, 8:05 pm

Bill,

Great cork stories. This wine somehow survived a somewhat dodgy cork situation.

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#28 Post by Stephen Williams » August 10th, 2019, 9:20 pm

I opened a bottle of the 1947 last year, only to find it was Blanc not Rouge. The wine was extraordinary once it had opened up. Truffled honey on toast would be an apt descriptor.
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#29 Post by Doug Lee » August 10th, 2019, 10:18 pm

Stephen,

Interesting. I happened upon a single bottle of 2002 Clos des Mouches Blanc this past year and went for it but have not opened it yet. Per your note there appears to be no rush!

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#30 Post by wspohn » August 11th, 2019, 8:36 am

Stephen Williams wrote:
August 10th, 2019, 9:20 pm
I opened a bottle of the 1947 last year, only to find it was Blanc not Rouge. The wine was extraordinary once it had opened up. Truffled honey on toast would be an apt descriptor.
I think you trumped the 'unlikely to be good, turned out to be great' prize there! Might be time to buy a lottery ticket. I was recently reading Steven Spurrier's book and among the many impressive tastings he did over his life were a few with Burgundy producers who pulled out ridiculously old (50+ years) white Burgs that were excellent.

(Red) Clos des Mouches has been a fave of mine for decades - rivalled only by the odd Jadot Clos des Ursules, and recently a surprise bottle of Prieur Les Champs Pimont that was especially good. This 79 Drouhin should be looked at as the Burgundian wine gods smiling favourably on Doug - I envy him!
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#31 Post by A Rubin Stein » August 11th, 2019, 8:41 am

Frederico L e e wrote:
August 9th, 2019, 4:20 am
I have 3 bottles of 2015 Drouhin Clos des Mouches Rouge. How long do I need to wait to enjoy them? 20 years? :(
I opened a bottle last week. My advice is to forget about this wine in your cellar for at least ten more years, ideally many more.
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#32 Post by Doug Lee » August 11th, 2019, 10:49 am

Asher,

Sounds like sage advice. Would be interesting to know if the 2015 was mostly primary at this point versus going into a shell already.

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#33 Post by A Rubin Stein » August 12th, 2019, 11:01 am

Doug Lee wrote:
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Asher,

Sounds like sage advice. Would be interesting to know if the 2015 was mostly primary at this point versus going into a shell already.

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Doug, I've had the '15 three times, in '17, '18 and '19. The last bottle, two weeks ago, was still very primary (and boardmember Sarah K. noted the oak was still very noticeable), young and dense. But each bottle has been increasingly tighter and more reticent than the prior, and the last bottle was drier on the palate. It's firming up.
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#34 Post by Frederico L e e » August 12th, 2019, 11:47 am

Thanks. I'll wait till end of next decade to crack my first '15 bottle 😀

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#35 Post by Doug Lee » August 13th, 2019, 7:30 pm

Asher,

Thanks for the feedback. Good information on the evolution of the vintage. Should be great when ready.


Frederico,

Sounds quite reasonable. I have looked for older vintages of this bottling and have had good experiences thus far (1979, 1993, 1995, 2007, 2009).


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