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#1 Post by mattcitrang » August 1st, 2019, 8:38 am

FALL 2019 RELEASE

THURSDAY / AUGUST 8TH / 8AM PACIFIC


Dear Friends,

We are excited to release our FALL 2017 vintage wines to you this coming week. Our release will be open from August 8th to August 22nd.


This release will include the following four wines:

2017 Porter Bass Vineyard Chardonnay / Sonoma Coast

2017 "marena" Chardonnay / Sonoma Coast

2017 Hellenthal "Old Shop Block" Vineyard Pinot Noir / Sonoma Coast

2017 Trout Gulch Vineyard Pinot Noir / Santa Cruz Mountains



We look forward to sharing these wines with you.

As always, should you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

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ALLOCATIONS

Because all of our wines are produced in low quantities, allocations are naturally small. Please note, ALLOCATIONS ARE NOT GUARANTEED, so it’s best to order soon to avoid disappointment.

The offer is open between August 8th and August 22nd, or until sold out.

WISH LIST If you would like more wine than you were allocated, please use the wish-list request feature. If we have wine remaining after August 23rd, wish list requests will be honored in the order they were received.

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SHIPPING - We will ship on November 4th, November 11th, and November 18th. There is no pick-up option for fall.

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#2 Post by Merrill Lindquist » August 1st, 2019, 11:05 am

My Ceritas save the date is August 5, Matty. Tiered approach, it appears. I'll leave some for you flirtysmile .
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#3 Post by Hank Victor » August 1st, 2019, 11:27 am

Tom DeBiase shared a nice write up about the 2017 vintage wines in this post.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161214&p=2781899&hi ... s#p2781899

I'm excited for the chardonnays.
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#4 Post by mattcitrang » August 1st, 2019, 12:04 pm

Merrill Lindquist wrote:
August 1st, 2019, 11:05 am
My Ceritas save the date is August 5, Matty. Tiered approach, it appears. I'll leave some for you flirtysmile .
I'm not part of that special group. yes, please leave me some.

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#5 Post by lleichtman » August 1st, 2019, 12:15 pm

Will be ordering as soon as available to order. Received my allocation list.
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#6 Post by ncostanzo1 » August 2nd, 2019, 11:36 pm

I just signed up for the list tonight, any guess as to if I’ll get an offer or some or any wines? TIA
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#7 Post by mattcitrang » August 3rd, 2019, 4:58 am

ncostanzo1 wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:36 pm
I just signed up for the list tonight, any guess as to if I’ll get an offer or some or any wines? TIA
I think you should have a good chance to be offered some wine. If not then definitely the next offer.

BTW - there is plenty of Ceritas available on the secondary market.

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#8 Post by Russ Williams » August 3rd, 2019, 7:49 am

I opened a 2011 Heintz last night and it is a delicious Chardonnay with bright lemon-lime fruit with some grapefruit notes showing up on the long finish. The acidity is in perfect balance with the fruit. These are getting pricey, especially with the shipping, but they are in a small company of the best chards being produced in CA. I’ll be buying some Porter Bass.
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#9 Post by ncostanzo1 » August 3rd, 2019, 8:35 am

mattcitrang wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 4:58 am
ncostanzo1 wrote:
August 2nd, 2019, 11:36 pm
I just signed up for the list tonight, any guess as to if I’ll get an offer or some or any wines? TIA
I think you should have a good chance to be offered some wine. If not then definitely the next offer.

BTW - there is plenty of Ceritas available on the secondary market.
Right on, I have seen some out there for sure and that will be my next stop if I don't get an allocation this coming week. Not buying much wine these days but I'm ready to grab a couple bottles of Ceritas to sit on for a few. Thnx!

Also reached out to do a tasting since my wife has never tried them hoping to do that as well in the near future, despite harvest looming.
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#10 Post by Gary Ahearn » August 3rd, 2019, 8:58 am

I'm on their mailing list, but haven't received an email regarding this release. Is there a third tier?? Am hoping for some Pinot.

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#11 Post by mattcitrang » August 3rd, 2019, 9:32 am

Gary Ahearn wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 8:58 am
I'm on their mailing list, but haven't received an email regarding this release. Is there a third tier?? Am hoping for some Pinot.
Send Ceritas an email and check if you are on the list.

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#12 Post by Steve Brickley » August 3rd, 2019, 9:34 am

This will be my 12th vintage since starting in 2005 of Porter Bass chard added to storage in 750ml and mags. I’ve so enjoyed these over the years along with the other single vineyards. Some PB’s going to the Nice FR cellar in a strange juxtaposition of drinking California in FR and Chablis in CA. Fun.
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#13 Post by Adam Frisch » August 5th, 2019, 11:06 am

Their wine club is full, but just signed up for a 13 bottle "Tasting Membership". Not entirely sure what the difference is, but price was acceptable so I thought I'd go for it.
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#14 Post by Anton D » August 5th, 2019, 11:13 am

Hank Victor wrote:
August 1st, 2019, 11:27 am
Tom DeBiase shared a nice write up about the 2017 vintage wines in this post.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161214&p=2781899&hi ... s#p2781899

I'm excited for the chardonnays.
I share your enthusiasm, I love these wines...I love the pinot noirs, as well.
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#15 Post by Anton D » August 5th, 2019, 11:14 am

Russ Williams wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 7:49 am
I opened a 2011 Heintz last night and it is a delicious Chardonnay with bright lemon-lime fruit with some grapefruit notes showing up on the long finish. The acidity is in perfect balance with the fruit. These are getting pricey, especially with the shipping, but they are in a small company of the best chards being produced in CA. I’ll be buying some Porter Bass.
I think your tasting impressions are spot on!
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#16 Post by Scott Brunson » August 5th, 2019, 11:16 am

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#17 Post by joeduncan » August 5th, 2019, 2:01 pm

Adam Frisch wrote:
August 5th, 2019, 11:06 am
Their wine club is full, but just signed up for a 13 bottle "Tasting Membership". Not entirely sure what the difference is, but price was acceptable so I thought I'd go for it.
I was just offered the same and will try it. They said it's essentially 1 bottle of all 13 wines they make, spread over the year into 3 shipments (with the ability to purchase some more of things I like, theoretically, if available :)). Seems like a good way to start.

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#18 Post by Tom DeBiase » August 5th, 2019, 3:16 pm

For me some of the purest expressions of Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. The difference in site expression in regards to flavor, structure, texture e.tc is remarkable.

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#19 Post by Anton D » August 5th, 2019, 3:27 pm

Tom DeBiase wrote:
August 5th, 2019, 3:16 pm
For me some of the purest expressions of Pinot Noir and Chardonnay. The difference in site expression in regards to flavor, structure, texture e.tc is remarkable.

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#20 Post by Hank Victor » August 8th, 2019, 7:51 am

Took my porter bass Chardonnay offering.
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#21 Post by J Scott » August 8th, 2019, 9:01 am

joeduncan wrote:
August 5th, 2019, 2:01 pm
Adam Frisch wrote:
August 5th, 2019, 11:06 am
Their wine club is full, but just signed up for a 13 bottle "Tasting Membership". Not entirely sure what the difference is, but price was acceptable so I thought I'd go for it.
I was just offered the same and will try it. They said it's essentially 1 bottle of all 13 wines they make, spread over the year into 3 shipments (with the ability to purchase some more of things I like, theoretically, if available :)). Seems like a good way to start.
You are both correct, I did the same thing last year by signing up for the tasting membership. I received the three shipments throughout the year and was then offered an allocation at the end of the 1-year tasting membership (this month). Very happy with their wines!
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#22 Post by Scott Brunson » August 8th, 2019, 9:06 am

Save some for me. I’m heading into dental surgery.
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#23 Post by Dinesh Goyal » August 8th, 2019, 9:21 am

Ordered 2 each of Occidental Pinot, Elliott Pinot, porter Bass Pinot, Hacienda, Hellenthal Old Shop block & Trout Gulch.

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#24 Post by Diane Kessler » August 8th, 2019, 10:45 am

As I cut way back on my purchasing, I will not skip their world class Porter Bass Chards. I probably should have ordered more, but I decided to include the Hellenthal Pinot, which I have skipped the past few vintages.

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#25 Post by Scott Brunson » August 8th, 2019, 2:04 pm

Took 6 Porter and 3 Marena
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#26 Post by Sean_S » August 8th, 2019, 2:11 pm

Adam Frisch wrote:
August 5th, 2019, 11:06 am
Their wine club is full, but just signed up for a 13 bottle "Tasting Membership". Not entirely sure what the difference is, but price was acceptable so I thought I'd go for it.
The Tasting membership is nice because you get 1 bottle of everything they make over the course of a year. Once completed you get allocations. Difficult part for me is I have to buy 3 bottles minimum of each wine. Budget is a little tight now so I have to choose 1 or 2 to buy and can't sample across the allocation.

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#27 Post by John Preston » August 8th, 2019, 2:45 pm

Sean_S wrote:
August 8th, 2019, 2:11 pm
Adam Frisch wrote:
August 5th, 2019, 11:06 am
Their wine club is full, but just signed up for a 13 bottle "Tasting Membership". Not entirely sure what the difference is, but price was acceptable so I thought I'd go for it.
The Tasting membership is nice because you get 1 bottle of everything they make over the course of a year. Once completed you get allocations. Difficult part for me is I have to buy 3 bottles minimum of each wine. Budget is a little tight now so I have to choose 1 or 2 to buy and can't sample across the allocation.

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#28 Post by Glenn L e v i n e » August 8th, 2019, 3:37 pm

I usually buy 6-12 PB Chardonnay but may mix in a few Hellenthal Old Shop.

I have a ton of their Chards and just love them.
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#29 Post by Gary Ahearn » August 8th, 2019, 3:54 pm

mattcitrang wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 9:32 am
Gary Ahearn wrote:
August 3rd, 2019, 8:58 am
I'm on their mailing list, but haven't received an email regarding this release. Is there a third tier?? Am hoping for some Pinot.
Send Ceritas an email and check if you are on the list.
Nada here. Sent two emails, no response yet. Fingers crossed . . . hope springs eternal.

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#30 Post by JohnP » August 12th, 2019, 7:36 pm

Picked up some Old Shop Block, first time ever purchasing it. Have to admit, Galloni's reviews definitely had an effect on my buying this offering. AG 97pt pinots for $65 a pop are rare finds.
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#31 Post by ncostanzo1 » August 12th, 2019, 10:19 pm

Didn’t catch an offer this go round, but definitely looking forward to setting up a visit to taste.
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#32 Post by mattcitrang » August 13th, 2019, 4:35 am

2019 Fall Release doesn’t close until 8/22. You may get an offer after that date.

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#33 Post by lleichtman » August 13th, 2019, 12:56 pm

Ordered everything in the allocation.
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#34 Post by Russ Williams » August 13th, 2019, 4:46 pm

lleichtman wrote:
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#35 Post by Hank Victor » October 3rd, 2019, 3:00 pm

2016 Cabernet Sauvignon Peter Martin Ray offer is being released October 10th.

Anyone have a vinous account with the score / review?
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#36 Post by Anthony V » October 3rd, 2019, 3:57 pm

Hank Victor wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 3:00 pm
2016 Cabernet Sauvignon Peter Martin Ray offer is being released October 10th.

Anyone have a vinous account with the score / review?
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#37 Post by John Preston » October 3rd, 2019, 5:05 pm

I will be ordering....

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#38 Post by Alan Newman » October 3rd, 2019, 6:55 pm

Strange that CT shows 70 already Pending
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#39 Post by Hank Victor » October 4th, 2019, 8:01 am

Anthony V wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 3:57 pm
Hank Victor wrote:
October 3rd, 2019, 3:00 pm
2016 Cabernet Sauvignon Peter Martin Ray offer is being released October 10th.

Anyone have a vinous account with the score / review?
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The 2016 Cabernet Sauvignon Peter Martin Ray Vineyard will thrill lovers of old-school California Cabernet. Bold, savory and super-expressive, the 2016 is also a fabulous expression of Santa Cruz Mountains Cabernet. Sage, menthol, blackberry, olive tapenade, game and licorice are some of the many notes that run through the 2016. Classic in build and yet quite rich, the 2016 is shaping up to be a jewel of a wine. This is a tremendous showing from Ceritas.

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#40 Post by Brent S » October 7th, 2019, 8:28 am

The cellar tracker notes from prior vintages are less then glowing. Would be nice to have a review from anyone else besides Galloni. His review is compelling but has anyone had a chance to try this vintage or has anyone else reviewed it?
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#41 Post by Tom DeBiase » October 7th, 2019, 8:45 am

Brent S wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 8:28 am
The cellar tracker notes from prior vintages are less then glowing. Would be nice to have a review from anyone else besides Galloni. His review is compelling but has anyone had a chance to try this vintage or has anyone else reviewed it?
If you like traditional style Cab. you will be hard pressed to find a better Cab than the 2016 Ceritas. Here is a thread from my tasting of the Spring Release of Ceritas which included a preview of the 2016 Cab. A real stunner! Prime SCM fruit in the hands of a great traditional winemaker. Easy decision.

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#42 Post by Anton D » October 7th, 2019, 10:26 am

Tom DeBiase wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 8:45 am
Brent S wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 8:28 am
The cellar tracker notes from prior vintages are less then glowing. Would be nice to have a review from anyone else besides Galloni. His review is compelling but has anyone had a chance to try this vintage or has anyone else reviewed it?
If you like traditional style Cab. you will be hard pressed to find a better Cab than the 2016 Ceritas. Here is a thread from my tasting of the Spring Release of Ceritas which included a preview of the 2016 Cab. A real stunner! Prime SCM fruit in the hands of a great traditional winemaker. Easy decision.

viewtopic.php?f=1&t=161214&p=2781899&hi ... s#p2781899

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I also like their cabernet.

I think "throwback" is a great compliment to it, I consider it a California classic for it's similarities to wines of my past.

Not that they are overtly similar, but the Ceritas reminds me of the A Rafanelli cabs, as well. They are just truly "cabernet-y!"

If you are on the fence, grab one...even if you don't like it, you will get a great glimpse of what the standard used to be.

I love this wine.
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#43 Post by AlexS » October 7th, 2019, 11:06 am

Love the Ceritas Cabernet, been buying since the 2012 vintage and it's just a lovely wine with each release...in for 4 but considering going back for my other 2 after seeing the positive notes.
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#44 Post by mattcitrang » October 7th, 2019, 11:28 am

AlexS wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 11:06 am
Love the Ceritas Cabernet, been buying since the 2012 vintage and it's just a lovely wine with each release...in for 4 but considering going back for my other 2 after seeing the positive notes.
is this offer open for purchase yet?

My email said Oct. 10, but I know they have an A list that goes out earlier.

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#45 Post by AlexS » October 7th, 2019, 11:30 am

Yes, email arrived today. I think they stagger the releases so if you're newer on the list it could hit you next week(?). Not sure though.
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#46 Post by mattcitrang » October 7th, 2019, 11:34 am

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Yes, email arrived today. I think they stagger the releases so if you're newer on the list it could hit you next week(?). Not sure though.
It's not newer. I've been purchasing Ceritas for 5 or 6 years. I think it's on volume. offers go out to the larger buyers first.

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#47 Post by mattcitrang » October 7th, 2019, 11:35 am

mattcitrang wrote:
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Yes, email arrived today. I think they stagger the releases so if you're newer on the list it could hit you next week(?). Not sure though.
It's not newer. I've been purchasing Ceritas for 5 or 6 years. I think it's on volume. offers go out to the larger buyers first. BTW what was the price for that.

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Re: Ceritas - Save the date 8/8/19

#48 Post by Russ Williams » October 7th, 2019, 12:03 pm

mattcitrang wrote:
October 7th, 2019, 11:35 am
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Yes, email arrived today. I think they stagger the releases so if you're newer on the list it could hit you next week(?). Not sure though.
It's not newer. I've been purchasing Ceritas for 5 or 6 years. I think it's on volume. offers go out to the larger buyers first. BTW what was the price for that.
Price for the cab is $90 and I am buying little if any cab these days, but it sounds like this vintage will hit my sweet spot.

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#49 Post by Hank Victor » October 7th, 2019, 2:22 pm

Anyone know production size for the 16 cab? I am under the impression that they only make sub 100 cases of this.
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Re: Ceritas - Save the date 8/8/19

#50 Post by Adam Frisch » October 7th, 2019, 4:03 pm

The Cab is coming as part of my "tasting membership". Look forward to that, but I have to say that for me, at $90, it's going to be hard for me to buy that regularly no matter how good it is. I won't step up onto my pricing soapbox again, but suffice to say that I hope I'll feel it was good value.
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