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#1 Post by Jeremy Holmes » July 30th, 2019, 5:33 pm

Many thanks to Paul Hanna for this bottle.
  • 2002 Domaine Robert Chevillon Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Les Vaucrains - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru (7/30/2019)
    There's intense liqueur cherry at this wine's heart. It has a highly perfumed nose of violets, iron, root vegetables, smoked meats and compost. It is plush and silky, with outstanding depth of flavour and balance. It really fans out on the finish and leaves an earthy/minerally footprint.
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#2 Post by Andrew Hamilton » July 30th, 2019, 5:43 pm

Sounds great Jeremy. Thanks for sharing.
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#3 Post by Marcus Dean » July 30th, 2019, 5:45 pm

Jeremy Holmes wrote:
July 30th, 2019, 5:33 pm
Many thanks to Paul Hanna for this bottle.
  • 2002 Domaine Robert Chevillon Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Les Vaucrains - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru (7/30/2019)
    There's intense liqueur cherry at this wine's heart. It has a highly perfumed nose of violets, iron, root vegetables, smoked meats and compost. It is plush and silky, with outstanding depth of flavour and balance. It really fans out on the finish and leaves an earthy/minerally footprint.
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#4 Post by Jeremy Holmes » July 30th, 2019, 5:46 pm

Thanks Andrew.

I bought a case of their '02 NSG 'Perrieres' on release which has been splendid. This Vaucrains has just a little more of everything.

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#5 Post by ybarselah » July 30th, 2019, 5:46 pm

unfortunately, i think i drank mine too early. the last one was absolutely stunning. i cannot come up with a good reason why i don't buy more chevillon, but they are singular and perhaps even best-in-class for the appellation. great note as usual. hope you're well, my friend.
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#6 Post by Jeremy Holmes » July 30th, 2019, 5:46 pm

It is so good now Marcus. No doubt it will drink well for several more decades.
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#7 Post by Marcus Dean » July 30th, 2019, 5:57 pm

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It is so good now Marcus. No doubt it will drink well for several more decades.
Thanks Jeremy,
I think I have it stored in the naughty corner with 02 Dugat-Py. Might be time to get it released on good behaviour

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#8 Post by john stimson » July 30th, 2019, 6:36 pm

There was a point in time when I felt that the 2002 Chevillon wines were over-ripe. I didn't buy any, so I only get to re-visit when someone else pulls one out, and haven't sampled one in the last year or year and a half or so. sounds like that wasn't particularly an issue for this one.

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#9 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 30th, 2019, 6:46 pm

Woo hoo! I have a bottle of this sitting happily in the cellar since I purchased it! Thanks for the notes1
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#10 Post by Dennis Atick » July 31st, 2019, 3:55 am

ybarselah wrote:
July 30th, 2019, 5:46 pm
. i cannot come up with a good reason why i don't buy more chevillon
+1 Always seem to be right where I want/expect them to be.
Nice note, Jeremy. Sounds great.
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#11 Post by Mike Grammer » July 31st, 2019, 7:19 am

Haven't had this one, but his 02 Chaignots a couple years ago in DC was stunning and WOTN among very worthy contenders:

"2002 Robert Chevillon NSG Les Chaignots

So NSG is still one of the few communes I don't readily grok. That said, I have now identified that I do love Chaignots as a plot. This was really, really nice. Cherry and berry and dashes of cinnamon elevate the aroma. And ooohhh, that is one pretty drink. Replays and very, very expressive. Best thing I can say? it's nothing other than Burgundy, and magic Burgundy at that---the luminosity and shine that you want the wine to achieve. Right on the mark right now, balancing freshness, flavour and depth and WOTN"
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#12 Post by Kent Comley » July 31st, 2019, 3:52 pm

Sounds great Jeremy, as you know I am also a big fan of the '02 Roncieres.
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#13 Post by Jayson Cohen » August 13th, 2019, 7:12 am

Wonderful bottle of the ‘02 Vaucrains last night at dinner. Medium bodied. Plenty of structure and zing to go with strong fruit and secondary aromas.

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#14 Post by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow » August 13th, 2019, 10:58 am

  • 2002 Domaine Robert Chevillon Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Les Vaucrains - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru (7/30/2019)
    There's intense liqueur cherry at this wine's heart. It has a highly perfumed nose of violets, iron, root vegetables, smoked meats and compost. It is plush and silky, with outstanding depth of flavour and balance. It really fans out on the finish and leaves an earthy/minerally footprint.
Man, that description is everything I thought about the 2002 vintage, when I tasted it in 2004. The quailty (ie, the character) of the vintage was right up in my top 3 vintages ever on the "vintage characteristics" criterion. At least on the Cote de Nuits, I thought the vintage consistency is right up there, too.

I plan to give them the full 20, but the ones I've had sound similar to Jeremy's description. Chevillon was wonderful in 2002. And, their Vaucrains is always great.

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#15 Post by Mark Golodetz » August 13th, 2019, 12:50 pm

We had the 1996 Vaucrains recently. It is drinking perfectly now, with the fruit red, crunchy and very fresh.
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#16 Post by Todd F r e n c h » August 13th, 2019, 1:12 pm

I tried to bring this wine to an event with C Fu but he said the wine was 'lame' - will have to enjoy it sometime based on the OVERWHELMING love it is getting
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#17 Post by Mark Golodetz » August 13th, 2019, 1:36 pm

cheesehead The wine elite doesn't believe in premier crus.
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#18 Post by maureen nelson » August 13th, 2019, 6:48 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
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cheesehead The wine elite doesn't believe in premier crus.
Yes I do.


Oh, you were being sarcastic when you referred to the wine “elite.”

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#19 Post by alan weinberg » August 13th, 2019, 7:46 pm

Mark Golodetz wrote:
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cheesehead The wine elite doesn't believe in premier crus.
I think that the more I learn about Burgundy, the more I like aged red premier cru red and notice that the difference between it and grand cru narrows.

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#20 Post by Mark Golodetz » August 13th, 2019, 8:10 pm

maureen nelson wrote:
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Mark Golodetz wrote:
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cheesehead The wine elite doesn't believe in premier crus.
Yes I do.


Oh, you were being sarcastic when you referred to the wine “elite.”
More ironic than sarcastic. Besides I like Nuits, and I would be stuck without Premiers.
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#21 Post by Craig G » August 13th, 2019, 8:21 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
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I tried to bring this wine to an event with C Fu but he said the wine was 'lame'
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#22 Post by Jay Miller » August 14th, 2019, 4:27 am

It seems obvious to me that Charlie actually said it was la meilleur and Todd simply refused to waste such a great wine on someone who gets his las and les mixed up.
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#23 Post by Jürgen Steinke » August 14th, 2019, 9:39 am

There were times when the wisdom was that people who cannot enjoy village wines are not worth of getting and drinking Grands Crus. But that times are long gone.

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#24 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s » August 14th, 2019, 5:35 pm

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July 30th, 2019, 5:33 pm
Many thanks to Paul Hanna for this bottle.
  • 2002 Domaine Robert Chevillon Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru Les Vaucrains - France, Burgundy, Côte de Nuits, Nuits St. Georges 1er Cru (7/30/2019)
    There's intense liqueur cherry at this wine's heart. It has a highly perfumed nose of violets, iron, root vegetables, smoked meats and compost. It is plush and silky, with outstanding depth of flavour and balance. It really fans out on the finish and leaves an earthy/minerally footprint.
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Jeremy, I just had a very plush 2002 Pousse d’Or Clos des 60 Ouvrées and, lo, this thread reappears. The Pousse was excellent, but a bit one note. I would imagine the Vaucrains to be a bit more complex than a Pousse, but your note scares me a little with all this plush and silky talk.
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#26 Post by john stimson » August 15th, 2019, 2:04 pm

Stuart--I know this may come as a shock (I'm sure it doesn't, because this discussion has been had many times before on this board), but some folks don't like their burgundies to be plush and silky, and liqueur-like notes tend to scare some folks away. (that's why I own much more 2008 and 2010 than 2009. who knows--I may be proven wrong (reading Jeremy's notes in the other thread gives me pause) but we'll see.)

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#27 Post by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow » August 15th, 2019, 2:44 pm

Not sure why it would "scare" someone to have that overall effect. It really is a description of the quality of the fruit and concentration more than anything else. It says nothing about the underlying structure-- to me anyway.

Of course, there are people with all kinds of "preferences". Like with most things, diversification is always good. And, since many people consider what Jeremy described as an ideal, it sounds silly that that "scares" people away, even if it's not their ideal. But, what Jeremy described is what "great" vintages are all about in Burgundy, IMO. You are lucky if you eschew them for the lesser ones because your taste? takes you there-- or whatever it is that takes you there. The competition for those bottles is less.

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#28 Post by Jayson Cohen » August 15th, 2019, 3:12 pm

FWIW, I would never describe 2002 Vaucrains as plush and silky, much soft or flabby, if that is where folks’ imaginations are running. Plenty of tension and grip in the fine acid/tannin structure of the wine.

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#29 Post by john stimson » August 15th, 2019, 4:24 pm

I'm sure the wine was/is great. Jeremy is an experienced and reliable taster, and i certainly trust his report. I was just trying to clarify Paul's post in light of Stuart's response. There's a lot of love for 2002 Chevillon in this thread, somewhat in contrast with what some of the posters felt in a thread on this board from last Novemberish (sorry I don't have it at my fingertips at the moment), in which some of the posters felt that the estate may have picked too late. Doesn't sound like an issue with this particular bottle.

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#30 Post by P@u1_M3nk3s » August 15th, 2019, 7:20 pm

Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow wrote:
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Stuart,
The note read great the first time around, but when the thread was resurrected with me just drinking a plush Pousse with strong notes of cherry liquor, well yes, alarm bells went off. I found the Pousse rather boring. Funny, because about 2 years ago I drank a 2002 Pousse d’Or Santenay Tavannes that seemed a bit too much on the lean side!
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#31 Post by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow » August 16th, 2019, 9:54 am

Well, Paul, if that was all that was going on: plush/velvety/liquer like...it would be boring. Might as well drink some Cassis like they make in Burgundy. But, I never found the 2002 vintage, anywhere I tasted it, lacking in backbone or acidity to keep that fresh and, ultimately, let it age into something more complex.

I think that is a good description of the fruit quality of the 2002 vintage; I found it pretty exotic and unusual for Burgundy vintages in barrel and on release. From my limited sampling, it is not near peak yet, though.

Though I remember the wines were great there in 2002, I would note that this was the second vintage that Bertrand and Denis Chevillon had taken over from their father. And, Bertrand's comment to me in 2001 told me they were going their own route. I asked him whether they missed their father's input. He said, surprisingly (as usually the next generation respects the previous one, particularly where that generation put them "on the map"): "Everyone gets his turn". Bertrand is a little irreverent in general, but this really surprised me. So, maybe they had different ideas in 2002 from their father's. I just know that they were overwhelmed by the demand for that vintage. When I put my order in, he said to Denis "Everyone wants this vintage"...like he would have been happier if I had said "no thanks" and waited for 2003 (which I didn't care for; too alcoholic to my taste). Luckily, I didn't take the hint-- or feel his pain. But, I remember that he was a distribution rookie then, though the brothers both had longtime roles there. But, I have no reason to believe that they picked too late. "Overripe" is not a word I associate with 2002 reds.

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#32 Post by Mike During » August 16th, 2019, 11:28 am

We had the 2002 Les Saint Georges from same producer last weekend. It was a star and my favourite among some pretty good GCs. 2002 was a Premier Cru vintage, and Chevillon shows it.
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#33 Post by Mike During » August 16th, 2019, 11:51 am

"I tried to bring this wine to an event with C Fu but he said the wine was 'lame'" C Fu needs a little more experience.
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