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#51 Post by AD Northup » September 1st, 2019, 9:05 pm

Jeff Moore wrote:
September 1st, 2019, 7:58 pm
2013 Savart has been listed on their website for several weeks now, so I’m guessing there wasn’t an offer....he probably just purchased these bottles off of the site.
Correct, first time actually checking the site since it was up and running (instead of just emails). Seemed like a decent deal so jumped.
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#52 Post by Dennis Atick » September 2nd, 2019, 4:36 am

Frank Murray III wrote:
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Dennis, so I am not alone. Huh. Was it a communication issue with Savart?
Yes. Lack of and then tone. General disinterest. I moved on.
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#53 Post by AD Northup » September 2nd, 2019, 7:50 am

Dennis Atick wrote:
September 2nd, 2019, 4:36 am
Frank Murray III wrote:
September 1st, 2019, 7:02 pm
Dennis, so I am not alone. Huh. Was it a communication issue with Savart?
Yes. Lack of and then tone. General disinterest. I moved on.
Appreciate the feedback on your experience. I’ve only had the L’ouverture so wanted to try one of the other releases, but given the abundance of quality champagne at the price point, will keep this in mind.
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#54 Post by Frank Murray III » September 2nd, 2019, 7:54 am

Dennis, thanks for the clarification on Savart. Looks like they have lost 2 customers, then.
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#55 Post by YLee » September 4th, 2019, 2:10 pm

Jamet vertical.
Lets see if I got'em. Was only interested in 2012.
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#56 Post by Nathan V. » September 4th, 2019, 2:43 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
September 2nd, 2019, 7:54 am
Dennis, thanks for the clarification on Savart. Looks like they have lost 2 customers, then.
You guys are welcome to do whatever you want, but for an operation like Savart answering downstream emails might not be a priority. His customers are really the importers/wholesalers who buy his wine and sustain his business (Grand Cru for at least the East Coast). I think the wines are superb and am happy to have less competition but I think that your expectations for the prioritization of your correspondence might be a little high and I think you might be taking it a bit too personally. Also, did you write to him in French? Are you sure everything translated the way both of you intended?
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#57 Post by Frank Murray III » September 4th, 2019, 3:32 pm

Nathan, here is the reminder of the topic, one where I was in the minority as to my opinion. You were in this thread, as well. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=156776&hilit=savart&start=100

And I did use French to communicate with him, via his website. I moved on, I don't buy the wines anymore.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Occidental Ridge SC
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
2017 Kutch Pinot Noir SC PN
2009 Roederer Cristal Brut
2017 Carlisle Zin Mancini Ranch RRV

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#58 Post by Nathan V. » September 5th, 2019, 12:37 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
September 4th, 2019, 3:32 pm
Nathan, here is the reminder of the topic, one where I was in the minority as to my opinion. You were in this thread, as well. viewtopic.php?f=1&t=156776&hilit=savart&start=100

And I did use French to communicate with him, via his website. I moved on, I don't buy the wines anymore.
French through google translate or are you a fluent speaker? Anyway, as I said, you can do what you like and I wish you no ill will. I just think that you are being unrealistic to expect Mssr. Savart to make your case of a single corked wine a priority.

Also, you seem to buy a lot of your Champagne through grey market sources. When you go to Champagne do you tell the folks your visiting this fact? The grey market is an end around, their official importer is how they sustain their business and livelihood.
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#59 Post by Frank Murray III » September 5th, 2019, 1:55 pm

Nathan, it's the winery's decision to answer their customer traffic or not. They didn't, but if you're gonna put a Contact button on your site, and a customer pings through there that they had a negative experience, I would like to believe they would respond. And yes, I did use Google Translate, as it has seemed to work suitably for when I want to try and at least meet people on their terms of language, not mine. We disagree on what is realistic here. I simply would have liked them to ack the issue with me. This is how I would want to treat my customers if I ran a winery.

My recall of my 2018 trip was that I do not remember one winery even asking me where I bought my wines.
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2014 Marie Courtin Eloquence BdB Extra Brut
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Occidental Ridge SC
2017 Rivers-Marie PN Platt SC
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#60 Post by Troy Stark » September 5th, 2019, 2:05 pm

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#61 Post by AD Northup » September 6th, 2019, 9:38 am

2012 Bereche et Fils Reflet d’Antan seems like a solid deal on a good wine.
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#62 Post by Russ Williams » September 7th, 2019, 9:30 pm

AD Northup wrote:
September 6th, 2019, 9:38 am
2012 Bereche et Fils Reflet d’Antan seems like a solid deal on a good wine.
I have never had a Bereche so this seemed like a good place to start, especially for the price. champagne.gif
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#63 Post by AD Northup » September 11th, 2019, 2:58 pm

Anyone with much experience with the Clos Joliette?
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#64 Post by Yao C » September 13th, 2019, 7:13 pm

Jumped on a couple of the Cappellano. Lopa is dangerous [help.gif]
Russ Williams wrote:
September 7th, 2019, 9:30 pm
AD Northup wrote:
September 6th, 2019, 9:38 am
2012 Bereche et Fils Reflet d’Antan seems like a solid deal on a good wine.
I have never had a Bereche so this seemed like a good place to start, especially for the price. champagne.gif
My one recent experience with the Reflet d'Antan is that it was unusual/fun/crazy in a good way; lots of saline, rock, darker/lower toned. I think you won't regret it :)
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