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Carlisle 2019 Summer Release

#1 Post by AD Northup » July 17th, 2019, 6:14 am

Report the damage once the release opens!
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#2 Post by Scott Brunson » July 17th, 2019, 6:19 am

Sometimes I need to be able to maintain deniability in case my wife peers at the computer. [cheers.gif]
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#3 Post by EHeffner » July 17th, 2019, 6:49 am

Did the email already go out? Or just preemptive thread?
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#4 Post by AD Northup » July 17th, 2019, 6:59 am

EHeffner wrote:
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Did the email already go out? Or just preemptive thread?
Preemptive
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#5 Post by N. Justl » July 17th, 2019, 8:40 am

It's open and order placed. Had to keep it to 6...
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#6 Post by William Segui » July 17th, 2019, 8:55 am

I love these wines. So much good.

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#7 Post by EHeffner » July 17th, 2019, 8:57 am

I wasn’t offered the Mourvedre, half the zins, or the Syrahs. Maybe that means I need to place order 🧐
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#8 Post by AD Northup » July 17th, 2019, 9:11 am

Seems like a lot of low yields. Kept to a half case, just not a lot of storage room available.
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#9 Post by Bud Carey » July 17th, 2019, 9:23 am

Another 48 bottle allocation. Decisions, decisions.
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#10 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » July 17th, 2019, 9:37 am

Kept to a case; was allocated 30.

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#11 Post by Hank Victor » July 17th, 2019, 9:38 am

picked up 3 bottles. First time buying from them.
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#12 Post by Joe B » July 17th, 2019, 9:44 am

Took 8 plus wished for James Berry
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#13 Post by Michael Martin » July 17th, 2019, 9:46 am

Order in

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#14 Post by C Wagner » July 17th, 2019, 9:55 am

Restraint was hard, but kept it to an assorted case.
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#15 Post by J. Kath » July 17th, 2019, 9:59 am

Allocated 30, but kept order to a case. Didn't get any mourvedre either, and I've ordered a decent amount from them each year. [sad emoji]
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#16 Post by markjchambers » July 17th, 2019, 10:23 am

I like that they are one of the few wineries that don't penalize people for not taking heir "full" allocation. I take less when I want less and when I want more, I wish for it and usually get it.

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#17 Post by Brian Tuite » July 17th, 2019, 10:38 am

I wasn’t allocated anything. ☹️
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#18 Post by Keith Koshk!n » July 17th, 2019, 10:40 am

I'm giving myself a gold star for keeping this to half a case. It could have easily been two cases. 2 each of the Bedrock and Pagani Zins and the Rosella's Syrah.

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#19 Post by Andrew Ing » July 17th, 2019, 10:55 am

Bought 6 + a couple of wishes. Excited to give these a try. I've only had Dupratt, which we really liked. I've got 3 other cases on order, so I have to be careful so early in the year.
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#20 Post by J a y H a c k » July 17th, 2019, 11:07 am

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. How is Mike going to make the payments on his Lamborghini if you place such tiny orders? Oops, no, that's Tom Brown, not Mike, with the Lambo. I remember back in the old days, when I used to have to walk five miles in the snow, up hill both ways, just to put my Carlisle order in the fax machine. Tanks God, as my grandmother used to say, that the order history on the website only goes back to the 2011 offer of 2009 wines. Otherwise, I would scare even myself.

You know how people always ask, "Oh, you're a wine collector. Do you have a lot of wine?" My response is, "everything is relative, it depends on your definition of "a lot." After they give me their definition, my response is usually, "I have that much Carlisle all by itself." I guess I'll have to turn over some Carlisle inventory at BF 10.2, or else Mike is going to complain to me (again) that I need to drink more Carlisle so there is room to buy more.

PS - I was allocated 40 bottles, which I think is down from a peak of 48 a few years ago.

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#21 Post by MikeMy » July 17th, 2019, 11:09 am

I wish someone would shackle me while these offers are available.
Kept it to 18 bottles and wished for the Bedrock Zin and Mourvedre also the James Berry Syrah.
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#22 Post by mattcitrang » July 17th, 2019, 11:09 am

Why are all these releases coming all at once?

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#23 Post by brigcampbell » July 17th, 2019, 11:17 am

AD Northup wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 9:11 am
Seems like a lot of low yields. Kept to a half case, just not a lot of storage room available.

from our meeting with Mike last year barrel sampling.

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By popular request. Here comes Carlisle. We showed up early and Mike took us into the barrel room, there's a lot of barrels in there. We tasted through at least 15 barrel samples from the 2017. Probably 1/2 were zin. I had heard zin took it on the chin in '17 and Mike confirmed. The issue is zin is very susceptible to heat spikes and the berries will shrink up, that's normal for all grapes, but zin can "pull back" from the stem they're attached too. There's the problem, the berry is now in serious trouble. Mike said he was forced to sort in the field twice and once more in the winery. He guesses that 1/2 the fruit was sorted out. Yikes. It made for lots of work as a winemaker, he's a perfectionist so nothing but the best out the door for Carlisle.

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#24 Post by Paul Flynn » July 17th, 2019, 11:19 am

Just took 6. My cellar is beginning to look like a Carlisle outlet store.
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#25 Post by Bud Carey » July 17th, 2019, 11:33 am

J a y H a c k wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 11:07 am
You guys should be ashamed of yourselves. How is Mike going to make the payments on his Lamborghini if you place such tiny orders? Oops, no, that's Tom Brown, not Mike, with the Lambo. I remember back in the old days, when I used to have to walk five miles in the snow, up hill both ways, just to put my Carlisle order in the fax machine. Tanks God, as my grandmother used to say, that the order history on the website only goes back to the 2011 offer of 2009 wines. Otherwise, I would scare even myself.

You know how people always ask, "Oh, you're a wine collector. Do you have a lot of wine?" My response is, "everything is relative, it depends on your definition of "a lot." After they give me their definition, my response is usually, "I have that much Carlisle all by itself." I guess I'll have to turn over some Carlisle inventory at BF 10.2, or else Mike is going to complain to me (again) that I need to drink more Carlisle so there is room to buy more.

PS - I was allocated 40 bottles, which I think is down from a peak of 48 a few years ago.

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#26 Post by dsimmons » July 17th, 2019, 11:53 am

My order in for my favorite producer. Although I don't take my full allocation anymore it is still my biggest buy each year. My cellar is deep and wide with vintages back to '05.
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#27 Post by Jim Marmion » July 17th, 2019, 12:01 pm

First time Carlisle buyer here and very much looking forward to diving in. I'll plan to buy 8-12 bottles (a few will be wished-for), preferably ones I can drink early. I'm a fan of grenache but what else should I go for?

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#28 Post by brigcampbell » July 17th, 2019, 12:33 pm

Jim Marmion wrote:
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First time Carlisle buyer here and very much looking forward to diving in. I'll plan to buy 8-12 bottles (a few will be wished-for), preferably ones I can drink early. I'm a fan of grenache but what else should I go for?
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#29 Post by Michael Martin » July 17th, 2019, 12:45 pm

Got the usual stand by Zins, but I also picked up a few of the Grenache. My taste for Grenache has increased since touring around southern Rhone. If done right, it presents an intriguing wine.

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#30 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » July 17th, 2019, 1:44 pm

Their Syrahs are sick!

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#31 Post by Joe G a l e w s k i » July 17th, 2019, 2:32 pm

Carlisle is one of my favorite producers, but I am NOT happy that the bottles got bigger/higher in the 2016 vintage. They don't fit in a lot of my OWC's now. Mike, if you're listening, there's no need to be wasteful and use bigger bottles.

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#32 Post by MikeHill » July 17th, 2019, 2:56 pm

In for a half case of zins

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#33 Post by Joe G a l e w s k i » July 17th, 2019, 3:15 pm

Joe G a l e w s k i wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 2:32 pm
Carlisle is one of my favorite producers, but I am NOT happy that the bottles got bigger/higher in the 2016 vintage. They don't fit in a lot of my OWC's now. Mike, if you're listening, there's no need to be wasteful and use bigger bottles.
Wow, I got this answer almost immediately. I take back the wasteful part. Thanks Mike.


Hi Joe,
A customer pointed me to your post on Wine Berserkers regarding our bottle. Very sorry you’re unhappy with the new bottle but basically, it’s the same mold as the old one but from a different company. The old bottle was 300 mm high and 83 mm at it’s widest point and weighed 670 g per bottle. The new one is 305 mm high (less than 2/10” higher), 82.5 mm at its widest point and 660 g per bottle. The reason we switched is because the former bottle was French and getting very expensive. The producer was also difficult to work with. The other advantage is that the new bottle’s screw cap equivalent has a deeper punt. Hence, there’s less headspace between the seal and the wine. A good thing I think.

Anyway, we thought no one would notice the bottle change but obviously we were wrong. Very sorry for the inconvenience.

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#34 Post by AD Northup » July 17th, 2019, 3:54 pm

Joe G a l e w s k i wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 3:15 pm
Joe G a l e w s k i wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 2:32 pm
Carlisle is one of my favorite producers, but I am NOT happy that the bottles got bigger/higher in the 2016 vintage. They don't fit in a lot of my OWC's now. Mike, if you're listening, there's no need to be wasteful and use bigger bottles.
Wow, I got this answer almost immediately. I take back the wasteful part. Thanks Mike.


Hi Joe,
A customer pointed me to your post on Wine Berserkers regarding our bottle. Very sorry you’re unhappy with the new bottle but basically, it’s the same mold as the old one but from a different company. The old bottle was 300 mm high and 83 mm at it’s widest point and weighed 670 g per bottle. The new one is 305 mm high (less than 2/10” higher), 82.5 mm at its widest point and 660 g per bottle. The reason we switched is because the former bottle was French and getting very expensive. The producer was also difficult to work with. The other advantage is that the new bottle’s screw cap equivalent has a deeper punt. Hence, there’s less headspace between the seal and the wine. A good thing I think.

Anyway, we thought no one would notice the bottle change but obviously we were wrong. Very sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards,

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#35 Post by Albert R » July 17th, 2019, 4:01 pm

In for a case IF wish list is granted. Mike not only makes great wine but also provides outstanding customer service!
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#36 Post by Jeffrey Neal » July 17th, 2019, 5:03 pm

I have no room and probably too much Carlisle, but it is too good and too reasonably priced to pass up. In for 11 bottles +1 wish listed.

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#37 Post by Jeff Bloom » July 17th, 2019, 5:59 pm

I'm usually good for 2+ cases per offer but have totally run out of storage space. I literally just finished shelving the bottles from the last shipment. I told myself no more than a case this time but ended up with 18 bottles anyway. I'm sure I'm going to regret leaving others on the table in a few years, though.

Really enjoyed a 2013 Papera tonight so I'm glad I got two Paperas in this offer at least.

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#38 Post by Chris S p i k e s » July 17th, 2019, 6:07 pm

Joe G a l e w s k i wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 3:15 pm
Joe G a l e w s k i wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 2:32 pm
Carlisle is one of my favorite producers, but I am NOT happy that the bottles got bigger/higher in the 2016 vintage. They don't fit in a lot of my OWC's now. Mike, if you're listening, there's no need to be wasteful and use bigger bottles.
Wow, I got this answer almost immediately. I take back the wasteful part. Thanks Mike.


Hi Joe,
A customer pointed me to your post on Wine Berserkers regarding our bottle. Very sorry you’re unhappy with the new bottle but basically, it’s the same mold as the old one but from a different company. The old bottle was 300 mm high and 83 mm at it’s widest point and weighed 670 g per bottle. The new one is 305 mm high (less than 2/10” higher), 82.5 mm at its widest point and 660 g per bottle. The reason we switched is because the former bottle was French and getting very expensive. The producer was also difficult to work with. The other advantage is that the new bottle’s screw cap equivalent has a deeper punt. Hence, there’s less headspace between the seal and the wine. A good thing I think.

Anyway, we thought no one would notice the bottle change but obviously we were wrong. Very sorry for the inconvenience.

Regards,

Mike Officer
Carlisle Winery
P.O. Box 556
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(707) 566-7700
(707) 566-7200 Fax
www.carlislewinery.com
That's pretty awesome and satisfying to get a nice, technical answer. I'm not on the list anymore, but my BIL is a Carlisle balla (4 cases +!) and I order through him.

I imagine that marketing people would call me an idiot, but I wish all wineries would just use basic BDX bottles. I don't care about the package appearance, just what's inside. And, I'd probably go broke trying to sell high quality wine that way.

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#39 Post by Brian Tuite » July 17th, 2019, 8:03 pm

So, did you all get emails about the release?
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#40 Post by Andrew Demaree » July 17th, 2019, 8:12 pm

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#41 Post by brigcampbell » July 17th, 2019, 8:26 pm

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#42 Post by Peter Petersen » July 17th, 2019, 9:48 pm

Brian Tuite wrote:
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So, did you all get emails about the release?
You could always try to log in to your account. If you are on the list there should be an offer.



In other news I’m looking at taking 18 bottles (Papera, CVZ, Integral, Grenache) and I have no room for them. Allocation was for 48.

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#43 Post by Matt K » July 18th, 2019, 6:52 am

Offered 24, probably making decisions today or tomorrow
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#44 Post by Jeff_M. » July 18th, 2019, 8:20 am

First post on the board. I didn't track how many total bottles I was offered. I ended up ordering 24 and wish listed 1 additional James Berry Vineyard. I did note the Carlisle Vineyard offering was lowered but they mentioned that in the release letter.
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#45 Post by P. D e r d e y n » July 18th, 2019, 10:29 am

In for a mixed case. Based on the limited number of replies I would say ya'll are really sleeping on the Rhones. That would be a huge mistake. [berserker.gif]
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#46 Post by Brian Tuite » July 18th, 2019, 12:33 pm

Fixed. Order in.
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#47 Post by A. Cox » July 18th, 2019, 12:42 pm

I always look forward to this release. I was offered 30 bottles, but only ordered 1 case, leaving the rest for the wish lists.
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#48 Post by Chr!s G|@rn3r » July 18th, 2019, 12:57 pm

3 Papera, 2 Grenache and 1 JB Syrah

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#49 Post by jordan whitehead » July 18th, 2019, 3:33 pm

guess I am officially off the list as no offer. Looks like I havent bought since 2015.

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#50 Post by KyleC » July 18th, 2019, 4:53 pm

First year on the list...mostly interested in the Syrahs but wasn't allocated any =/.
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