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Quick thoughts on a Chevillon sale - other producers added

#1 Post by Robert M yers » July 14th, 2019, 10:04 pm

Buy?

2016 chaignots - 65
2016 bousselots - 65
2016 les Cailles - 85, 2014 - 70
2016 les Perrieres - 65
2016 les roncieres - 65, 2015 - 50
2016 nsg vv - 65, 2014 - 60
2014 St. George’s - 80
2014 les pruliers - 50
2014 les vaucrains - 50

Far from experienced here but seems like some buys. Any thoughts to guide.
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#2 Post by alan weinberg » July 14th, 2019, 10:07 pm

great pricing. Super producer.

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#3 Post by Robert M yers » July 14th, 2019, 10:16 pm

alan weinberg wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 10:07 pm
great pricing. Super producer.
I’m gonna need some more help [rofl.gif] [cheers.gif] Cause I figured that out [beg.gif]

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#4 Post by alan weinberg » July 14th, 2019, 10:18 pm

why? Buy them all.

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#5 Post by Robert M yers » July 14th, 2019, 10:20 pm

I really didn’t want you to say that...really I didn’t

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#6 Post by James Billy » July 14th, 2019, 10:22 pm

I thought, from the title, the brothers had sold the Domaine [wow.gif]

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#7 Post by Robert M yers » July 14th, 2019, 10:26 pm

James Billy wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 10:22 pm
I thought, from the title, the brothers had sold the Domaine [wow.gif]
Ha, sorry [rofl.gif]

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#8 Post by dbailey » July 14th, 2019, 11:28 pm

The 14 vaucrains at 50 makes no sense at all
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#9 Post by Marcus Dean » July 15th, 2019, 12:02 am

dbailey wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 11:28 pm
The 14 vaucrains at 50 makes no sense at all
Great value if you are patient,
How long are you comfortable cellaring wine?

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#10 Post by Robert M yers » July 15th, 2019, 12:08 am

alan weinberg wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 10:18 pm
why? Buy them all.
It was snooze or lose, so Advice taken.

Less the vv’s which seemed like good but not screaming deals.
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#11 Post by Robert M yers » July 15th, 2019, 12:09 am

Marcus Dean wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 12:02 am
dbailey wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 11:28 pm
The 14 vaucrains at 50 makes no sense at all
Great value if you are patient,
How long are you comfortable cellaring wine?
Well I’m 46...so it depends as I would like to drink them. [cheers.gif]

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#12 Post by Odd Rydland » July 15th, 2019, 1:26 am

Great to drink for your retirement. If I were your age I would buy all I could get away with (re bank, spouse). Especially Cailles 16 I guess. Haven't had it, but liked the VV 16 a lot this sping.

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#13 Post by Marcus Dean » July 15th, 2019, 3:09 am

I am 48 and I am waiting on the 2002s to come around, high level 14s nd village 15s willl work.
16s will većine a Long Teen enigma IMHO

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#14 Post by William Kelley » July 15th, 2019, 5:35 am

Robert M yers wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 10:04 pm
Buy?

2016 chaignots - 65
2016 bousselots - 65
2016 les Cailles - 85, 2014 - 70
2016 les Perrieres - 65
2016 les roncieres - 65, 2015 - 50
2016 nsg vv - 65, 2014 - 60
2015 Les Charbonnieres - 50
2014 St. George’s - 80
2014 les pruliers - 50
2014 les vaucrains - 50

Far from experienced here but seems like some buys. Any thoughts to guide.
I would buy '16s very aggressively, as they are both rare and superb, and these prices are very good. If you have to limit yourself, I'd prioritize Cailles, especially if you're patient, but at that pricing I would be buying three mixed cases personally.
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#15 Post by Mark Golodetz » July 15th, 2019, 5:44 am

Steal. My favorite NSG producer and a great vintage and around 30% under market. Curious the story behind it.
BTW grasshopper, a great buy.
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#16 Post by Alain M » July 15th, 2019, 6:04 am

Buy everything you can from 2015/16 at those prices. Chevillon wines need time but they are still enjoyable at 8-10 years imo.

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#17 Post by Frank Drew » July 15th, 2019, 6:31 am

Those are super prices for Chevillon. I just had a very satisfying 2002 Nuits village, bought on release (and pointed in Chevillon’s direction by Dr. Weinberg.)

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#18 Post by Robert M yers » July 15th, 2019, 7:03 am

All right burgophiles here’s some more available...after 30 bottles of Chevillon I’m getting tapped out, but what screams out here.

2015 Domaine Jerome Chezeaux Nuits St. Georges Les Charbonnieres - 45
2015 Domaine Michel Gros Vosne Romanee Clos des Reas 1er Cru -110
2016 Domaine Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey Vosne Romanee -60
2015 Maison Lucien Le Moine Beaune Clos des Mouches 1er Cru -45
2014 Maison Lucien Le Moine Chambolle Musigny Haut Doix 1er Cru- 85
2015 Maison Lucien Le Moine Gevrey Chambertin Les Combottes 1er Cru -70
2014 Domaine Lecheneaut Morey-St-Denis -40
2014 Domaine Ponsot Chapelle Chambertin Grand Cru -300
2014 Domaine Ponsot Chambertin Clos de Beze Grand Cru -400
2014 Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche Cuvee Vieilles Vignes Grand Cru -400
2014 Domaine Ponsot Griotte Chambertin Grand Cru -300
2017 Domaine Leflaive Macon Solutre -35
2017 Domaine Leflaive Macon Verze Le Monte -45

Please don’t tell me the Ponsot...please don’t. I know I know. Never had one and would rather keep it that way, but I’m a sucker for a deal.
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#19 Post by YLee » July 15th, 2019, 7:14 am

Man, I need to move to Cleveland to get some great prices!
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#20 Post by William Kelley » July 15th, 2019, 7:20 am

Robert M yers wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 7:03 am
All right burgophiles here’s some more available...after 30 bottles of Chevillon I’m getting tapped out, but what screams out here.

2015 Domaine Jerome Chezeaux Nuits St. Georges Les Charbonnieres - 45
2015 Domaine Michel Gros Vosne Romanee Clos des Reas 1er Cru -110
2016 Domaine Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey Vosne Romanee -60
2015 Maison Lucien Le Moine Beaune Clos des Mouches 1er Cru -45
2014 Maison Lucien Le Moine Chambolle Musigny Haut Doix 1er Cru- 85
2015 Maison Lucien Le Moine Gevrey Chambertin Les Combottes 1er Cru -70
2014 Domaine Lecheneaut Morey-St-Denis -40
2014 Domaine Ponsot Chapelle Chambertin Grand Cru -300
2014 Domaine Ponsot Chambertin Clos de Beze Grand Cru -400
2014 Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche Cuvee Vieilles Vignes Grand Cru -400
2014 Domaine Ponsot Griotte Chambertin Grand Cru -300
2017 Domaine Leflaive Macon Solutre -35
2017 Domaine Leflaive Macon Verze Le Monte -45

Please don’t tell me the Ponsot...please don’t. I know I know. Never had one and would rather keep it that way, but I’m a sucker for a deal.
I would still rather buy more Chevillon, honestly. The days of Chevillon being priced like that are numbered, I suspect.
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#21 Post by Robert M yers » July 15th, 2019, 7:23 am

Thanks William, I did actually take The advice and bought them all. (Less VV) most were 2-4 bottles each. Just backtracking here to make sure I didn’t overlook something. I’m not a high end burg player due to pricing, but when I find a deal (never here) I’d like to pounce.
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#22 Post by CJ Beazley » July 15th, 2019, 7:24 am

Robert M yers wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 7:03 am
All right burgophiles here’s some more available...after 30 bottles of Chevillon I’m getting tapped out, but what screams out here.

2015 Domaine Jerome Chezeaux Nuits St. Georges Les Charbonnieres - 45
2015 Domaine Michel Gros Vosne Romanee Clos des Reas 1er Cru -110
2016 Domaine Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey Vosne Romanee -60
2015 Maison Lucien Le Moine Beaune Clos des Mouches 1er Cru -45
2014 Maison Lucien Le Moine Chambolle Musigny Haut Doix 1er Cru- 85
2015 Maison Lucien Le Moine Gevrey Chambertin Les Combottes 1er Cru -70
2014 Domaine Lecheneaut Morey-St-Denis -40
2014 Domaine Ponsot Chapelle Chambertin Grand Cru -300
2014 Domaine Ponsot Chambertin Clos de Beze Grand Cru -400
2014 Domaine Ponsot Clos de la Roche Cuvee Vieilles Vignes Grand Cru -400
2014 Domaine Ponsot Griotte Chambertin Grand Cru -300
2017 Domaine Leflaive Macon Solutre -35
2017 Domaine Leflaive Macon Verze Le Monte -45

Please don’t tell me the Ponsot...please don’t. I know I know. Never had one and would rather keep it that way, but I’m a sucker for a deal.
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#23 Post by alan weinberg » July 15th, 2019, 8:00 am

personally I am done w Ponsot. No value at current pricing and he uses his plastic bottle stoppers that I trust as much as his white temp dots—not at all. Some great wines from that domaine, though, 80 and 85 Clos de la Roche come to mind

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#24 Post by Mark Golodetz » July 15th, 2019, 8:18 am

alan weinberg wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 8:00 am
personally I am done w Ponsot. No value at current pricing and he uses his plastic bottle stoppers that I trust as much as his white temp dots—not at all. Some great wines from that domaine, though, 80 and 85 Clos de la Roche come to mind
And 1999. Still a long way from maturity but utterly brilliant. The 1989 and 1993 were both lovely.
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#25 Post by AAgrawal » July 15th, 2019, 8:28 am

'15 Jerome Chezeaux Charbonnieres is excellent. That's a good price too (cheaper than I paid), but not as much of a crazy deal as the Chevillon.
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#26 Post by Mike Grammer » July 15th, 2019, 9:18 am

The Michel Gros isn't cheap, but it's such an outstanding cuvee year in and year out, 15 should be special. PYCM does not get enough/same kind of cred for his reds as for his whites, but the one I've had was damned good--I'd jump all over the VR. Ah yes, here we are--from dinner at Steve and Misuk Anderson's last year:


"2015 Pierre-Yves Colin-Morey Volnay Pitures-Dessus

Smells like a beautiful 2015. Cherry, plum, chocolate and roasted chestnut. Super-young, but the power and drive on this are excellent, as is the purity. In 10-15 years, this'll be a special wine. 90+"


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#27 Post by Markus S » July 15th, 2019, 9:33 am

So you empty your bank account out yet?
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#28 Post by Robert M yers » July 15th, 2019, 10:19 am

Markus S wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 9:33 am
So you empty your bank account out yet?
Picked up some 2016 Domaine A. et P. de Villaine Rully Les Saint-Jacques for $25
and some nice bourgone Blancs @$20. So I’m probably done, although I’m thinking about the pycm & Michael Gros, although that tests my comfort level for a wine I’m not familiar with.


2013 Domaine Michel Niellon Chevalier Montrachet -$250
or 2015 -$375 was a new add. Out of my league again.

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#29 Post by Alain M » July 15th, 2019, 11:46 am

^ Crazy good pricing for the Rully. Is that some wholesale deal or they're closing business?
Michel Gros is very good, if you have the cash I'd say go ahead because VR 1er Cru @110 will seem like a bargain 5 years from now.
And Bourgogne blanc @20?! Buy everything.

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#30 Post by ATaylor » July 15th, 2019, 11:57 am

Alain M wrote:
July 15th, 2019, 11:46 am
^ Crazy good pricing for the Rully. Is that some wholesale deal or they're closing business?
Michel Gros is very good, if you have the cash I'd say go ahead because VR 1er Cru @110 will seem like a bargain 5 years from now.
And Bourgogne blanc @20?! Buy everything.

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It's a wine store out here on the West Coast that does some crazy good deals a few times a year. Quality operation as well. If you happen to be a member of one of their monthly clubs, you get another 10% off the prices listed above. With that you can get the 2013 Chave Hermitage for sub $200.

The Villaine Rully was actually $30, not $25 and the Vaucrains was $60..still crazy pricing.
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