Downstream Wines

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Robert.A.Jr.
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Re: Downstream Wines

#101 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 14th, 2019, 4:33 pm

Steve Crawford wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 3:14 pm
larry schaffer wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 8:01 am
Steve Crawford wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 4:49 am



that score is from william kelly who is as reliable as a $5 whore. jeb gave the 2016 97 points and the '17 96-98.
Steve,

Curious why you make this statement? You obviously have 'issues' with William's scoring - just curious where it's coming from? I find his reviews quite interesting and illuminating, and do not find he 'bounces around' with his scores. He definitely has different opinions about some producers than others, but that's his opinion based on his palate.

Cheers.
I am a self admitted jeb loyalist and I don't hide this.
I've tasted more than 15 wines both men have scored and haven't found a bottle yet where I agree with WK.
like you said, his scores reflect his palate.
Not only that, but a 93 is a pretty damn strong rating as well.

That’s cool you align with Jeb. He’s an awesome guy. Our palates are quite different, but I like him very much. He fears cycling with me, though, as do you. ;)

William is fantastic. Not just his perception of wine, but how he places wine, makers and regions into context. He’s a brilliant writer. I am drinking a 2017 Beaujolais right now that he reviewed very highly, higher than 95, and while I might be a couple points lower, his detail is dead on point. Actually, his reviews on 2017 Bojo are excellent across the board.

I do not get the fascination with Cambie. I personally he think he has ruined every Chateauneuf du Pape estate that he has touched. His style is way OTT. Consultants like him, like Rolland, stylize the region, making the wines totally ubiquitous, glossy, soul-less. What he will do with Zin - another grape that I really like - is nothing I want to get near. Has he ever worked with Zin? Yet another high alcohol wine that will become bigger in scale than it really needs to be, or should be.

But then again, none of us have tasted it.

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#102 Post by Scott G r u n e r » July 14th, 2019, 5:03 pm

After reading this and the faethm thread I think I am finally cured of FOMO as I felt nothing. I suppose Cambie’s name involved helped somewhat too. Add Rolland for the trifecta.
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#103 Post by Rich Brown » July 14th, 2019, 5:47 pm

Love this thread! Can you imagine the banter that will ensue after someone actually tastes the wine!

If I do end up getting an allocation and the price is 'reasonable', I am absolutley going to Pobega the sh*t out of a bottle just so I can add a note here!!

Ok....carry on ;)

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#104 Post by Michel D. » July 17th, 2019, 10:07 am

Anybody got an offer today?
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#105 Post by AD Northup » July 17th, 2019, 10:38 am

Michel D. wrote:
July 17th, 2019, 10:07 am
Anybody got an offer today?
Though the invitation email said they'd come in the fall?
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Re: Downstream Wines

#106 Post by larry schaffer » July 17th, 2019, 2:45 pm

Scott G r u n e r wrote:
July 14th, 2019, 5:03 pm
After reading this and the faethm thread I think I am finally cured of FOMO as I felt nothing. I suppose Cambie’s name involved helped somewhat too. Add Rolland for the trifecta.
That's pretty funny, my friend . . .

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Re: Downstream Wines

#107 Post by crickey » August 14th, 2019, 6:13 am

For those guessing $200/bottle, you win!

https://jebdunnuck.com/2019/08/floating ... tin-smith/
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Re: Downstream Wines

#108 Post by Peter Valiquette » August 14th, 2019, 6:44 am

crickey wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 6:13 am
For those guessing $200/bottle, you win!

https://jebdunnuck.com/2019/08/floating ... tin-smith/
And if you're not willing to pay up, you may be guilty of "grape racism" according to Jeb.

I wonder how much the "formidable and delicate" and "ethereal" packaging adds to the cost.

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#109 Post by Vic G » August 18th, 2019, 8:16 am

In fairness, the "grape racism" comment/article was written by R.H. Drexel, not Jeb.
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#110 Post by Robert M yers » August 18th, 2019, 12:09 pm

That’s a lot of coin for what Smith makes sound like 20 minutes of Cambie’s time before the mic drop. Good for him though for donating his proceeds.

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