TN: 2004 Clos des Papes Châteauneuf-du-Pape

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#1 Post by John Glas » July 8th, 2019, 7:37 pm

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#2 Post by T. Altmayer » July 8th, 2019, 10:07 pm

My favorite producer in CDP, always seems to produce a wonderful wine. Glad to hear this vintage was no different. Haven't had it in a while, but I remember liking 04 quite a bit.
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#3 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » July 9th, 2019, 12:56 pm

Sounds like this is finally in a good spot. Nice. :)
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#4 Post by Gordon Fitz » July 9th, 2019, 1:56 pm

I pulled a magnum of this out a couple weeks ago to have with friends. Agree all the way with the poster, a great wine in a great place.

To be more specific, it was still tight upon opening. I gave it about 2 hours of decant before serving, and it continued to improve in the glass over the next hour. From a magnum this wine has plenty of life left well past 2030!

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#5 Post by John Morris » July 9th, 2019, 2:38 pm

Interesting. I drank a bottle in late 2017 and one in early 2018. The first was a little oxidized and was porty. The second was just a bit porty. I wasn't thrilled with either. Both were purchased on release and stored with temperature control.
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#6 Post by John Kight » July 9th, 2019, 2:50 pm

John Morris wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 2:38 pm
Interesting. I drank a bottle in late 2017 and one in early 2018. The first was a little oxidized and was porty. The second was just a bit porty. I wasn't thrilled with either. Both were purchased on release and stored with temperature control.
"A bit porty" seems like it could easily be a typical description of many CdPs made in a larger style (and Clos des Papes falls into bottom end of that style). If the 2004 is "a bit" porty, the 2003 is actual port.

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#7 Post by John Glas » July 9th, 2019, 2:53 pm

Interesting. I drank a bottle in late 2017 and one in early 2018. The first was a little oxidized and was porty. The second was just a bit porty. I wasn't thrilled with either. Both were purchased on release and stored with temperature control.
I have had this wine 4 times and not a bad bottle yet. Do you have any left?

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#8 Post by John Morris » July 9th, 2019, 2:53 pm

John Kight wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 2:50 pm
John Morris wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 2:38 pm
Interesting. I drank a bottle in late 2017 and one in early 2018. The first was a little oxidized and was porty. The second was just a bit porty. I wasn't thrilled with either. Both were purchased on release and stored with temperature control.
"A bit porty" seems like it could easily be a typical description of many CdPs made in a larger style (and Clos des Papes falls into bottom end of that style). If the 2004 is "a bit" porty, the 2003 is actual port.
I liked the wine on release, and I like the vintage precisely because it tends to be less ripe. But my bottles didn't pan out the way I'd hoped.
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#9 Post by John Morris » July 9th, 2019, 2:54 pm

John Glas wrote:
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I have had this wine 4 times and not a bad bottle yet. Do you have any left?
No. The experience with the first one scared me, so I opened my second and last bottle a couple of months later. It was perfect sound. I just didn't care for that ripe, somewhat porty note. But others might not react in the same way. It certainly wasn't like an '03 CdP.
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#10 Post by John Glas » July 10th, 2019, 4:04 pm

I get the Porty note. Would agree not traditional CDP but seems like the vintages of the mid to later 2000s sometimes become high alcohol to appease Parker.

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