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Favourite Quality in a wine

#1 Post by Alan Eden » July 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm

No poll for this one but a question instead, describe the one single aspect of a wine that excites you. Not looking for a long list here, just a single thing that awakens the senses. For example, Savouriness in a Syrah, Steeliness in a Chablis etc.

Im typing this drinking a 2010 Ridge Estate cab and it has lots of good qualities but the single thing that is pushing my buttons the most is the moorishness of the wine, it is just so damn addictive
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#2 Post by Matt Mauldin » July 2nd, 2019, 8:54 pm

Tapenade savoriness in Syrah.
Flinty reduction in whites.

Plenty more - but those two come to the top of mind.
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#3 Post by Kris Patten » July 2nd, 2019, 9:37 pm

Texture
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#4 Post by Anton D » July 2nd, 2019, 9:38 pm

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#5 Post by Yao C » July 2nd, 2019, 10:57 pm

I've heard people dismiss 'nervosite' as a made up thing, but I very occasionally experience it as a thrilling, electric feeling when the acidity of a wine harmonizes perfectly with the other elements. It causes the wine to come alive in this vibratory, hallucinatory way that is very special to me
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#6 Post by Otto Forsberg » July 2nd, 2019, 11:43 pm

Alan Eden wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm
Im typing this drinking a 2010 Ridge Estate cab and it has lots of good qualities but the single thing that is pushing my buttons the most is the moorishness of the wine, it is just so damn addictive
Sounds like a wine that could've taken over Spain a millennium ago! [tease.gif]

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#7 Post by James Billy » July 3rd, 2019, 12:46 am

The label. It brings bragging rights champagne.gif

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#8 Post by dbailey » July 3rd, 2019, 2:55 am

Depth of fruit on a fully mature red burg. There’s simply nothing else like it.
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#9 Post by RichardFlack » July 3rd, 2019, 3:30 am

Balance, Harmony. Applies to pretty much anything.

Other attributes tend to be wine or category specific

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#10 Post by Jim Stewart » July 3rd, 2019, 3:31 am

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#11 Post by Victor Hong » July 3rd, 2019, 3:49 am

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#12 Post by Howard Cooper » July 3rd, 2019, 3:55 am

Jim Stewart wrote:
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My answer has not changed.
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#13 Post by James Billy » July 3rd, 2019, 4:03 am

RichardFlack wrote:
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Balance, Harmony. Applies to pretty much anything.

Other attributes tend to be wine or category specific
This. And freshness.

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#14 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » July 3rd, 2019, 4:08 am

Otto Forsberg wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 11:43 pm
Alan Eden wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm
Im typing this drinking a 2010 Ridge Estate cab and it has lots of good qualities but the single thing that is pushing my buttons the most is the moorishness of the wine, it is just so damn addictive
Sounds like a wine that could've taken over Spain a millennium ago! [tease.gif]
Exactly! The Othello Cuvee. I wonder if they make a Desdamerlot.
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#15 Post by Markus S » July 3rd, 2019, 4:47 am

Alan Eden wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm
... the moorishness of the wine...
There are words that, no matter how many times I see them, I still have no idea what they really mean and this is one of them, in addition to gourmand(as used in wines, esp Burgundy), and linear. Really have no idea what the hell they mean.

But, to answer the question, probably texture and weight, followed by fragrance.
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#16 Post by Otto Forsberg » July 3rd, 2019, 4:56 am

Markus S wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 4:47 am
Alan Eden wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm
... the moorishness of the wine...
There are words that, no matter how many times I see them, I still have no idea what they really mean and this is one of them, in addition to gourmand(as used in wines, esp Burgundy), and linear. Really have no idea what the hell they mean.

But, to answer the question, probably texture and weight, followed by fragrance.
Moorishness is the quality of a wine being similar to a Moor (them being muslims who took over Spain in the 8th Century), on which I and David just commented.

Obviously.

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#17 Post by Alan Eden » July 3rd, 2019, 5:01 am

Jim Stewart wrote:
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Ill ask again next year
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#18 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 3rd, 2019, 5:06 am

Distinctiveness
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#19 Post by Matthew Brown » July 3rd, 2019, 5:15 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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Distinctiveness
Was going to say thought-provoking, then ask for a ruling on the hyphenation.
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#20 Post by HMechbal » July 3rd, 2019, 5:22 am

Verticality in feel.
Sadly haven't been able to feel it all that much.

Otherwise, the peppery quality of northern rhone syrahs.
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#21 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 3rd, 2019, 5:38 am

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#22 Post by Renato S. » July 3rd, 2019, 5:43 am

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#23 Post by Markus S » July 3rd, 2019, 5:53 am

Otto Forsberg wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 4:56 am
Moorishness is the quality of a wine being similar to a Moor (them being muslims who took over Spain in the 8th Century), on which I and David just commented.

Obviously.
Yes. Obviously...
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#24 Post by James Billy » July 3rd, 2019, 5:59 am

Or a description from Wuthering Heights.

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#25 Post by Sc0tt F!tzger@ld » July 3rd, 2019, 6:01 am

A 98 to 100 point score is a great quality. And oh yeah, also a cool label so it will shine on my Instagram post.

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#26 Post by Matthew King » July 3rd, 2019, 8:12 am

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#27 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 3rd, 2019, 8:33 am

Otto Forsberg wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 4:56 am
Markus S wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 4:47 am
Alan Eden wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm
... the moorishness of the wine...
There are words that, no matter how many times I see them, I still have no idea what they really mean and this is one of them, in addition to gourmand(as used in wines, esp Burgundy), and linear. Really have no idea what the hell they mean.

But, to answer the question, probably texture and weight, followed by fragrance.
Moorishness is the quality of a wine being similar to a Moor (them being muslims who took over Spain in the 8th Century), on which I and David just commented.

Obviously.
Given that Muslims do not drink alcohol, I can only imagine that when he praised the Moorishness of an alcoholic beverage, Alan was complimenting the Ridge for managing to balance seemingly mutually exclusive qualities, like its American oak and size on the one hand and its seeming precision and weightlessness on the other. What a brilliant, descriptive (literary even) comment to make on a wine. Bravo!
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#28 Post by J. Rock » July 3rd, 2019, 8:41 am

Mouthfeel (usually looking for something substantive, viscous, mouth-coating, silky/velvety)
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#29 Post by Hank Victor » July 3rd, 2019, 8:50 am

pronounced and complex aroma and flavor intensity
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#30 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » July 3rd, 2019, 9:28 am

That it is a liquid.

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#31 Post by Yao C » July 3rd, 2019, 9:32 am

Markus S wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 4:47 am
Alan Eden wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm
... the moorishness of the wine...
There are words that, no matter how many times I see them, I still have no idea what they really mean and this is one of them, in addition to gourmand(as used in wines, esp Burgundy)

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I think "gourmand" and "more-ish" mean similar things: they're wines that aren't necessarily excellent or even great, but there's something delicious about them that compels you to keep drinking
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#32 Post by Todd F r e n c h » July 3rd, 2019, 9:35 am

A nose so complex and interesting that I am reticent to even take a sip. Has happened to me multiple times, and each time it fills me with wonder. If I'm that enamored with the nose, I must LOVE the wine itself, but I don't want to get my nose out long enough to sip it.
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#33 Post by Greg K » July 3rd, 2019, 9:38 am

Sc0tt F!tzger@ld wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 6:01 am
A 98 to 100 point score is a great quality. And oh yeah, also a cool label so it will shine on my Instagram post.
More correctly, the best feature of a wine is its ability to instill jealousy in others after posted on my Instagram feed.
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#34 Post by Frank Z » July 3rd, 2019, 9:46 am

The people behind the wine.
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#35 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 3rd, 2019, 10:20 am

Frank Z wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 9:46 am
The people behind the wine.
Interesting. This means absolutely nothing to me. I suppose if Pol Pot made the wine I'd find something else to drink but I can't think of a time when this was any factor at all in a purchasing decision.

(I should add in the interest of candor and completeness, that while I would not buy Trump wine if it were made by my best friend because an expensive over-oaked VA cab is about the bottom of my shopping list, if he bought Chateau Latour it might give me pause.)
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#36 Post by Gray G » July 3rd, 2019, 11:03 am

great flavor that you smell and taste
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#37 Post by Joe B » July 3rd, 2019, 11:10 am

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#38 Post by Gabe Berk » July 3rd, 2019, 1:14 pm

Taste. Then texture...

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#39 Post by Cody L » July 3rd, 2019, 1:19 pm

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#40 Post by David Glasser » July 3rd, 2019, 8:10 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 3:55 am
Jim Stewart wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 3:31 am
"It's deja vu all over again" -YB
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My answer has not changed.
Neither has mine: complexity. Which by my definition has some similarities to Howard's "length." The ability of a wine to reveal multiple different aromas and tastes, as each taste evolves on the nose and palate and over time as the bottle is consumed. That’s what turns an excellent, balanced wine into an outstanding experience.

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#41 Post by Jack Linden » July 3rd, 2019, 11:31 pm

The ability to make good food even better.

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#42 Post by Kent Comley » July 4th, 2019, 12:44 am

alcohol :)
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#43 Post by Howard Cooper » July 4th, 2019, 5:11 am

David Glasser wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 8:10 pm
Howard Cooper wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 3:55 am
Jim Stewart wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 3:31 am
"It's deja vu all over again" -YB
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My answer has not changed.
Neither has mine: complexity. Which by my definition has some similarities to Howard's "length." The ability of a wine to reveal multiple different aromas and tastes, as each taste evolves on the nose and palate and over time as the bottle is consumed. That’s what turns an excellent, balanced wine into an outstanding experience.
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#44 Post by Howard Cooper » July 4th, 2019, 5:16 am

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 10:20 am
Frank Z wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 9:46 am
The people behind the wine.
Interesting. This means absolutely nothing to me. I suppose if Pol Pot made the wine I'd find something else to drink but I can't think of a time when this was any factor at all in a purchasing decision.

(I should add in the interest of candor and completeness, that while I would not buy Trump wine if it were made by my best friend because an expensive over-oaked VA cab is about the bottom of my shopping list, if he bought Chateau Latour it might give me pause.)
I must admit that more and more over time I have been buying wines where I have visited the producer - esp. Burgundies. There is some level of confirmation here in that I tend to visit producers where I like the wines. But, going to a winery, meeting the people who make the wines (this really is more of a Burgundy thing as in many regions like California this generally does not happen), seeing how they make wines, tasting through a range of wines, etc., often makes me feel more comfortable buying future vintages without having tasted the new wines.
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#45 Post by Mark Golodetz » July 4th, 2019, 5:41 am

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#46 Post by Neal.Mollen » July 4th, 2019, 8:50 am

Howard Cooper wrote:
July 4th, 2019, 5:16 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 10:20 am
Frank Z wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 9:46 am
The people behind the wine.
Interesting. This means absolutely nothing to me. I suppose if Pol Pot made the wine I'd find something else to drink but I can't think of a time when this was any factor at all in a purchasing decision.

(I should add in the interest of candor and completeness, that while I would not buy Trump wine if it were made by my best friend because an expensive over-oaked VA cab is about the bottom of my shopping list, if he bought Chateau Latour it might give me pause.)
I must admit that more and more over time I have been buying wines where I have visited the producer - esp. Burgundies. There is some level of confirmation here in that I tend to visit producers where I like the wines. But, going to a winery, meeting the people who make the wines (this really is more of a Burgundy thing as in many regions like California this generally does not happen), seeing how they make wines, tasting through a range of wines, etc., often makes me feel more comfortable buying future vintages without having tasted the new wines.
I think you and Frank are saying two different things. Unless I misread you, you are saying that having visited an operation and talked to the winemakers gives you confidence that they are likely to make a wine you will like even without tasting it first. That is a kind of information gathering that makes sense to me. I understood Frank to be saying that the character of the folks who make the wine is a primary factor in purchase decisions -- I like the people so I like and will buy the wine. That is a perspective I do not share.
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#47 Post by Chris Seiber » July 4th, 2019, 9:06 am

Otto Forsberg wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 4:56 am
Markus S wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 4:47 am
Alan Eden wrote:
July 2nd, 2019, 8:42 pm
... the moorishness of the wine...
There are words that, no matter how many times I see them, I still have no idea what they really mean and this is one of them, in addition to gourmand(as used in wines, esp Burgundy), and linear. Really have no idea what the hell they mean.

But, to answer the question, probably texture and weight, followed by fragrance.
Moorishness is the quality of a wine being similar to a Moor (them being muslims who took over Spain in the 8th Century), on which I and David just commented.

Obviously.
Actually, they were called the Moops, and the quality is Moopishness.

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#48 Post by Howard Cooper » July 4th, 2019, 6:42 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 4th, 2019, 8:50 am
Howard Cooper wrote:
July 4th, 2019, 5:16 am
Neal.Mollen wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 10:20 am


Interesting. This means absolutely nothing to me. I suppose if Pol Pot made the wine I'd find something else to drink but I can't think of a time when this was any factor at all in a purchasing decision.

(I should add in the interest of candor and completeness, that while I would not buy Trump wine if it were made by my best friend because an expensive over-oaked VA cab is about the bottom of my shopping list, if he bought Chateau Latour it might give me pause.)
I must admit that more and more over time I have been buying wines where I have visited the producer - esp. Burgundies. There is some level of confirmation here in that I tend to visit producers where I like the wines. But, going to a winery, meeting the people who make the wines (this really is more of a Burgundy thing as in many regions like California this generally does not happen), seeing how they make wines, tasting through a range of wines, etc., often makes me feel more comfortable buying future vintages without having tasted the new wines.
I think you and Frank are saying two different things. Unless I misread you, you are saying that having visited an operation and talked to the winemakers gives you confidence that they are likely to make a wine you will like even without tasting it first. That is a kind of information gathering that makes sense to me. I understood Frank to be saying that the character of the folks who make the wine is a primary factor in purchase decisions -- I like the people so I like and will buy the wine. That is a perspective I do not share.
In at least some cases (for example, Blair Pethel), it is probably some of both. I liked how he made the wines but I probably like the wines even more because I like him.
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#49 Post by C. Keller » July 4th, 2019, 7:02 pm

Alcohol. Taste. Smell.

Have no clue wtf structure, texture, tannins, etc. anything else are so I can't gauge on this.
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#50 Post by Alan Rath » July 4th, 2019, 8:13 pm

My favourite quality is colour.
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