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#51 Post by AD Northup » June 22nd, 2020, 4:39 pm

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Just got Wine and War today in the mail. been on my list a little while, no time like the present!

Anyone get / read Jane Anson's Bordeaux book yet? I saw it in another discussion and I know it's pretty new. It looks great, but I'm trying to figure out if it's $95 shipped great.
I preordered the Anson book, but believe they’re being shipped in the order they were purchased so haven’t received shipping confirmation yet
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#52 Post by Nick Gangas » June 22nd, 2020, 6:00 pm

Thanks all for some great selections.

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#53 Post by Frank Murray III » June 22nd, 2020, 6:16 pm

This just arrived. Looking forward to starting it tonight.
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#54 Post by Br1an Th0rne » June 22nd, 2020, 6:19 pm

AD Northup wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:39 pm
Anthony C wrote:
June 22nd, 2020, 4:25 pm
Just got Wine and War today in the mail. been on my list a little while, no time like the present!

Anyone get / read Jane Anson's Bordeaux book yet? I saw it in another discussion and I know it's pretty new. It looks great, but I'm trying to figure out if it's $95 shipped great.
I preordered the Anson book, but believe they’re being shipped in the order they were purchased so haven’t received shipping confirmation yet
Just received mine today. I preordered the day they went up on Sotheby’s. Impressive at first glance; will dive into it next week on vacation.

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#55 Post by AD Northup » July 8th, 2020, 6:55 pm

William Kelley wrote:
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AD Northup wrote:
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Frank - have you read “Champagne Uncorked” focusing on history and Krug?
The better book is John Arlott's "Krug, House of Champagne", which is long out-of-print but easily obtainable on Abebooks.
Just finished reading both of these. I personally did enjoy Arlott’s book a bit more given the pure concentration on the history of the house, though, to someone just starting to learn about Champagne, or who may struggle with long, sometimes rambling prose, Champagne Uncorked is a solid and easy read.
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#56 Post by mark rudner » July 13th, 2020, 12:37 pm

just finished wine and war and blue trout (found the first half kind of slow) enjoyed them both
now on a history of drunkenness and it's quite a fun read

going to read harrison's stuff again before summer's gone. i wish i knew him, but that was batali's buddy

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#57 Post by Jim Hanlon » July 13th, 2020, 12:54 pm

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'Blue Trout and Black Truffles: The Perigrinations of an Epicure', Wechsberg (from the New Yorker). I'm not sure food writing gets better than this. (At lease if you like France.)
Wechsberg is a treasure. Any of the collections of his essays is worth reading. His long-form articles on Fernanand Point, La Pyramide after Point's death, and Alexis Lichine are also all available online to New Yorker subscribers in the magazine archives and are wonderful.

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#58 Post by Frank Murray III » July 26th, 2020, 6:58 pm

AD Northup wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 6:55 pm
William Kelley wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 5:43 pm
AD Northup wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 5:08 pm
Frank - have you read “Champagne Uncorked” focusing on history and Krug?
The better book is John Arlott's "Krug, House of Champagne", which is long out-of-print but easily obtainable on Abebooks.
Just finished reading both of these. I personally did enjoy Arlott’s book a bit more given the pure concentration on the history of the house, though, to someone just starting to learn about Champagne, or who may struggle with long, sometimes rambling prose, Champagne Uncorked is a solid and easy read.
I found a used copy of the Arlott book on Amazon, so grabbed that for $12.

Finished Wine and War today...that was a terrific read. I've acquired a deeper appreciation for France now, especially how they had to survive and make it through WW2 at the hands of Germany. I had some perspective on the topic prior to the two Kladstup books, but now I understand it more on an emotional level. Wow.
My best wines for 2020:
2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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Re: books ?

#59 Post by AD Northup » July 26th, 2020, 7:08 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 6:58 pm
AD Northup wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 6:55 pm
William Kelley wrote:
June 16th, 2020, 5:43 pm


The better book is John Arlott's "Krug, House of Champagne", which is long out-of-print but easily obtainable on Abebooks.
Just finished reading both of these. I personally did enjoy Arlott’s book a bit more given the pure concentration on the history of the house, though, to someone just starting to learn about Champagne, or who may struggle with long, sometimes rambling prose, Champagne Uncorked is a solid and easy read.
I found a used copy of the Arlott book on Amazon, so grabbed that for $12.

Finished Wine and War today...that was a terrific read. I've acquired a deeper appreciation for France now, especially how they had to survive and make it through WW2 at the hands of Germany. I had some perspective on the topic prior to the two Kladstup books, but now I understand it more on an emotional level. Wow.
I was a big fan of Wine and War. I’m taking a break from wine reading at the moment (reading a wonderful book on Dunkirk), but will be reading Hitler’s Vineyards per William Kelley’s recommendation above. Will be interesting to see where it aligns and diverges from the narrative that’s been hammered into my mind from all the other books covering the time period.
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2020 WsOTY:

2015 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs La Presle (#1)
1954 Fontanafredda Barbaresco
2015 Ultramarine BdB

2019 WsOTY:
1994 Edmunds St. John Les Côtes Sauvages
2016 P. S. Garcia Grenache Piedra Lisa
2002 Perrier-Jouet Belle Époque
2005 Faja dos Padres Malvasia

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#60 Post by Frank Murray III » July 26th, 2020, 7:32 pm

AD Northup wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 7:08 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
July 26th, 2020, 6:58 pm
AD Northup wrote:
July 8th, 2020, 6:55 pm


Just finished reading both of these. I personally did enjoy Arlott’s book a bit more given the pure concentration on the history of the house, though, to someone just starting to learn about Champagne, or who may struggle with long, sometimes rambling prose, Champagne Uncorked is a solid and easy read.
I found a used copy of the Arlott book on Amazon, so grabbed that for $12.

Finished Wine and War today...that was a terrific read. I've acquired a deeper appreciation for France now, especially how they had to survive and make it through WW2 at the hands of Germany. I had some perspective on the topic prior to the two Kladstup books, but now I understand it more on an emotional level. Wow.
I was a big fan of Wine and War. I’m taking a break from wine reading at the moment (reading a wonderful book on Dunkirk), but will be reading Hitler’s Vineyards per William Kelley’s recommendation above. Will be interesting to see where it aligns and diverges from the narrative that’s been hammered into my mind from all the other books covering the time period.
Ah, forgot about that one, Andrew. Just grabbed that one too, and it will sequence nicely with Wine and War. Thanks for the reminder.
My best wines for 2020:
2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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#61 Post by Frank Murray III » July 31st, 2020, 5:43 pm

Just arrived today. Will get onto this once i finish the Padma Lakshmi memoir (which is terrific, BTW).
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2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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#62 Post by wspohn » August 1st, 2020, 7:01 pm

Damn you guys! Just cost me four books! I am a sucker for a good book!
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#63 Post by Frank Murray III » August 5th, 2020, 10:06 am

Frank Murray III wrote:
July 31st, 2020, 5:43 pm
Just arrived today. Will get onto this once i finish the Padma Lakshmi memoir (which is terrific, BTW).

20200731_174035.jpg
FWIW, I tried to start the Hitler's Vineyard's book last night and just wasn't digging the writing style. It just came across as heavy, boring. I sent it back to Amazon today. Not a recommend from me.
My best wines for 2020:
2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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#64 Post by AD Northup » August 5th, 2020, 7:35 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 10:06 am
Frank Murray III wrote:
July 31st, 2020, 5:43 pm
Just arrived today. Will get onto this once i finish the Padma Lakshmi memoir (which is terrific, BTW).

20200731_174035.jpg
FWIW, I tried to start the Hitler's Vineyard's book last night and just wasn't digging the writing style. It just came across as heavy, boring. I sent it back to Amazon today. Not a recommend from me.
Dr. Kelley did imply it was written more like a dissertation (not to mention translated from French), so I imagine it may take a good bit of concentration to absorb. Was it primarily a flow problem?
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2015 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs La Presle (#1)
1954 Fontanafredda Barbaresco
2015 Ultramarine BdB

2019 WsOTY:
1994 Edmunds St. John Les Côtes Sauvages
2016 P. S. Garcia Grenache Piedra Lisa
2002 Perrier-Jouet Belle Époque
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#65 Post by Frank Murray III » August 5th, 2020, 7:57 pm

AD Northup wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 7:35 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 10:06 am
Frank Murray III wrote:
July 31st, 2020, 5:43 pm
Just arrived today. Will get onto this once i finish the Padma Lakshmi memoir (which is terrific, BTW).

20200731_174035.jpg
FWIW, I tried to start the Hitler's Vineyard's book last night and just wasn't digging the writing style. It just came across as heavy, boring. I sent it back to Amazon today. Not a recommend from me.
Dr. Kelley did imply it was written more like a dissertation (not to mention translated from French), so I imagine it may take a good bit of concentration to absorb. Was it primarily a flow problem?
Just dense and boring, Andrew. I read a lot and I just won't read stuff anymore that doesn't feel engaging. I assume will like the book but i didn't.
My best wines for 2020:
2014 Marie Courtin Champagne Efflorescence Extra Brut
2012 Minière F & R Champagne Influence Brut
2008 Rhys Skyline PN SCM
2015 Ulysse Collin Champagne Les Pierrières
2014 Laherte Frères Champagne BdB EB Les Grands Crayeres

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#66 Post by AD Northup » August 5th, 2020, 7:58 pm

Frank Murray III wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 7:57 pm
AD Northup wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 7:35 pm
Frank Murray III wrote:
August 5th, 2020, 10:06 am

FWIW, I tried to start the Hitler's Vineyard's book last night and just wasn't digging the writing style. It just came across as heavy, boring. I sent it back to Amazon today. Not a recommend from me.
Dr. Kelley did imply it was written more like a dissertation (not to mention translated from French), so I imagine it may take a good bit of concentration to absorb. Was it primarily a flow problem?
Just dense and boring, Andrew. I read a lot and I just won't read stuff anymore that doesn't feel engaging. I assume will like the book but i didn't.
Will let you know how I fare!
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2020 WsOTY:

2015 Roses de Jeanne / Cédric Bouchard Champagne Blanc de Noirs La Presle (#1)
1954 Fontanafredda Barbaresco
2015 Ultramarine BdB

2019 WsOTY:
1994 Edmunds St. John Les Côtes Sauvages
2016 P. S. Garcia Grenache Piedra Lisa
2002 Perrier-Jouet Belle Époque
2005 Faja dos Padres Malvasia

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#67 Post by Sjmotta » August 5th, 2020, 10:49 pm

Restaurant Man by Joe Bastianich
The Perfectionist by Rudolph Chelminski
The Apprentice by Jacque Pepin
The Art of SQN by Manfred Krankl
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#68 Post by Subir Grewal » August 6th, 2020, 6:44 pm

RickieM wrote:
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David Wright wrote:
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Adventures on the Wine Route -- Kermit Lynch.
I second that recommendation. It's older, but if you've never read it, it is well worthwhile. It is my favorite wine book by far. Make sure to get the revised edition as it includes additional reading.
Third. It is a great, quick read. For years, I'd buy anything if it was imported by Lynch. It was bound to be interesting, and sometimes a revelation.
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#69 Post by David Wright » August 6th, 2020, 9:08 pm

I remember buying that book (first copy of it anyway). It had just come out. I noticed it in a bookstore and it looked interesting, but what sealed the deal is that the publisher is/was Farrar, Straus, and Giroux. They are John McPhee's publisher, and given how much I enjoy his writing it seemed worth a flyer. And it was. It is one of those books that you pass on to a friend who you know will like it, buy another copy to re-read a few years later... wash, rinse, repeat.

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