TN: 2010 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph (France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph)

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TN: 2010 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph (France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph)

#1 Post by Jeremy Holmes » June 28th, 2019, 2:47 pm

  • 2010 Pierre Gonon St. Joseph - France, Rhône, Northern Rhône, St. Joseph (6/28/2019)
    A beguiling nose of menthol, root vegetables, black olive tapenade, dried flowers and earth. It is cool with clarity, building in the glass as it takes on air. Fruits are dark and it has terrific detail, balance and poise. There's a fine line of acidity and length is good. Drinking right in the zone now.
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#2 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 28th, 2019, 4:10 pm

I last had one of these with Charlie Fu and Ryan Curry - they loved it, I felt it was still too young. Apparently I'm wrong. Have 4 more, worth more each than I paid for those 4 together.
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#3 Post by John Morris » June 28th, 2019, 4:11 pm

Anyone had the 2009 recently?
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#4 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 28th, 2019, 4:16 pm

John Morris wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:11 pm
Anyone had the 2009 recently?
I had my last 2009 in March of 2018 and how I WISH this wine wasn't the 'new hotness' with the price to prove it, as the 2009 was, when I had it, absolutely firing on all cylinders more than any wine I've had around that time. Amazing just over a year ago!
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#5 Post by M1chael Dom1ngo » June 28th, 2019, 4:24 pm

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:10 pm
I last had one of these with Charlie Fu and Ryan Curry - they loved it, I felt it was still too young. Apparently I'm wrong. Have 4 more, worth more each than I paid for those 4 together.

When was that? I've got a couple off-site and this TN is tempting me to bring them home.

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#6 Post by Todd F r e n c h » June 28th, 2019, 4:28 pm

M1chael Dom1ngo wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:24 pm
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:10 pm
I last had one of these with Charlie Fu and Ryan Curry - they loved it, I felt it was still too young. Apparently I'm wrong. Have 4 more, worth more each than I paid for those 4 together.

When was that? I've got a couple off-site and this TN is tempting me to bring them home.
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#7 Post by Russ Williams » June 29th, 2019, 11:09 am

Todd F r e n c h wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:16 pm
John Morris wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:11 pm
Anyone had the 2009 recently?
I had my last 2009 in March of 2018 and how I WISH this wine wasn't the 'new hotness' with the price to prove it, as the 2009 was, when I had it, absolutely firing on all cylinders more than any wine I've had around that time. Amazing just over a year ago!
I stopped buying these after the '13 vintage as the 'new hotness' pricing was getting out of control. I had no idea how insane the new hotness has become, but I just checked CT and the '10s that I paid $40 for are selling at auction for $150 and the mag I purchased for $80 is going for $330...WTF?
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#8 Post by John Morris » June 29th, 2019, 11:51 am

Clearly, you haven't been following the board closely. [wink.gif]
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#9 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » June 29th, 2019, 12:05 pm

Interesting this is approachable. I stuck mine in deep storage and I don’t think I have tried a single one. Will grab an 09 to try again. Love these wines.

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#10 Post by Scott E. » July 3rd, 2019, 2:57 pm

Just noticed that someone is attempting to auction off a single bottle of 2007 Gonon St Joe for $750 on the K&L site. [wow.gif] Zero bidders as I write. They also have 2017 pre-arrivals for $130 per bottle. Cheers!
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#11 Post by c fu » July 3rd, 2019, 3:04 pm

Scott E. wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 2:57 pm
Just noticed that someone is attempting to auction off a single bottle of 2007 Gonon St Joe for $750 on the K&L site. [wow.gif] Zero bidders as I write. They also have 2017 pre-arrivals for $130 per bottle. Cheers!
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#12 Post by B. Buzzini » July 3rd, 2019, 4:24 pm

c fu wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 3:04 pm
Scott E. wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 2:57 pm
Just noticed that someone is attempting to auction off a single bottle of 2007 Gonon St Joe for $750 on the K&L site. [wow.gif] Zero bidders as I write. They also have 2017 pre-arrivals for $130 per bottle. Cheers!
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#13 Post by Markus S » July 3rd, 2019, 6:01 pm

Russ Williams wrote:
June 29th, 2019, 11:09 am
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:16 pm
John Morris wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:11 pm
Anyone had the 2009 recently?
I had my last 2009 in March of 2018 and how I WISH this wine wasn't the 'new hotness' with the price to prove it, as the 2009 was, when I had it, absolutely firing on all cylinders more than any wine I've had around that time. Amazing just over a year ago!
I stopped buying these after the '13 vintage as the 'new hotness' pricing was getting out of control. I had no idea how insane the new hotness has become, but I just checked CT and the '10s that I paid $40 for are selling at auction for $150 and the mag I purchased for $80 is going for $330...WTF?
Fu and others on this board have been exercising monopoly power over the market for these. By procuring pallet-sized portions when they first come out, then hyping said bottles to kingdom come, they slowly release cache after cache, but trickle them so as not to cause any market disruptions like oversupply. You can buy the vielles vignes for $750 if you'd like. [cheers.gif]
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#14 Post by J. D'Antonio » July 3rd, 2019, 9:28 pm

Had a bottle of the 2016 in a restaurant in Lyon a couple weeks ago for 75 Euro and it was delicious.
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#15 Post by c fu » July 3rd, 2019, 10:38 pm

Markus S wrote:
July 3rd, 2019, 6:01 pm
Russ Williams wrote:
June 29th, 2019, 11:09 am
Todd F r e n c h wrote:
June 28th, 2019, 4:16 pm

I had my last 2009 in March of 2018 and how I WISH this wine wasn't the 'new hotness' with the price to prove it, as the 2009 was, when I had it, absolutely firing on all cylinders more than any wine I've had around that time. Amazing just over a year ago!
I stopped buying these after the '13 vintage as the 'new hotness' pricing was getting out of control. I had no idea how insane the new hotness has become, but I just checked CT and the '10s that I paid $40 for are selling at auction for $150 and the mag I purchased for $80 is going for $330...WTF?
Fu and others on this board have been exercising monopoly power over the market for these. By procuring pallet-sized portions when they first come out, then hyping said bottles to kingdom come, they slowly release cache after cache, but trickle them so as not to cause any market disruptions like oversupply. You can buy the vielles vignes for $750 if you'd like. [cheers.gif]
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#16 Post by Joe Chanley » July 11th, 2019, 5:13 am

I'm organizing a Gonon vertical from 2010-2017.....would love some suggestions on how you'd arrange them in order as side-by-sides or flights. Thanks.

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#17 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 11th, 2019, 5:47 am

My guess:

2010 and 2013 - big structure

2011 and 2014 - excellent transparity

2012 and 2016 - open knit

2015 - big ripe bruiser, perhaps last

Haven’t tried 2017 yet.

Do you have any Iles Feray. Slip in the 2016 blind in one of the flights.

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#18 Post by Jayson Cohen » July 11th, 2019, 7:15 am

Youngest to oldest.

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#19 Post by Ramon C » July 11th, 2019, 8:00 am

Oldest to youngest.
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#20 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 11th, 2019, 8:02 am

My post was about grouping. If we are talking about an order, 2011 and 2014 first for sure. Then 2012.

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#21 Post by Jayson Cohen » July 11th, 2019, 8:21 am

Ramon C wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 8:00 am
Oldest to youngest.
Grrrr.

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#22 Post by Alan Rath » July 11th, 2019, 8:25 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 5:47 am
My guess:

2010 and 2013 - big structure

2011 and 2014 - excellent transparity

2012 and 2016 - open knit

2015 - big ripe bruiser, perhaps last

Haven’t tried 2017 yet.

Do you have any Iles Feray. Slip in the 2016 blind in one of the flights.
Unless the 16 has changed since I had it earlier this year, I wouldn't even bother opening one, too tight and tannic. It's a long term wine for sure. 12 should surely be drinking well now, it's always been a warm, forward vintage. I drank through a bunch of 13s and 14s when they were young, but I haven't had one in several years to know how they're drinking. Might be good, might be not showing much. I think 11 was always drinkable.
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#23 Post by Mark C Johnson » July 11th, 2019, 9:15 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 5:47 am
2011 and 2014 - excellent transparity
Counselor I believe you mean "transparency". I looked up "transparity" and it appears to be the name of some cloud based tech firm. neener
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#24 Post by Jayson Cohen » July 11th, 2019, 10:06 am

Mark C Johnson wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 9:15 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 5:47 am
2011 and 2014 - excellent transparity
Counselor I believe you mean "transparency". I looked up "transparity" and it appears to be the name of some cloud based tech firm. neener
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#25 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 11th, 2019, 10:15 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 10:06 am
Mark C Johnson wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 9:15 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 5:47 am
2011 and 2014 - excellent transparity
Counselor I believe you mean "transparency". I looked up "transparity" and it appears to be the name of some cloud based tech firm. neener
Robert, a client?
I cannot disclose confidences, that would be too transpacious.

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#26 Post by Ramon C » July 11th, 2019, 4:29 pm

Jayson Cohen wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 8:21 am
Ramon C wrote:
July 11th, 2019, 8:00 am
Oldest to youngest.
Grrrr.
OK, I'll make a concession and start 2012 ahead of 2010 and 2011.
With the rest, still old to young.
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#27 Post by Joe Chanley » July 11th, 2019, 5:52 pm

Thanks for all the input

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