Robert A. Alfert, Jr., was right

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#51 Post by Mark Mason » June 25th, 2019, 6:11 am

I tried on the other night and at cold cellar temp, it seemed to have a strange acidic taste that was unpleasant. Once it warmed up in the glass, it started singing. I hope my TW stocks back up again after clearing them out. Thank you guys!
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#52 Post by EHeffner » June 25th, 2019, 8:11 am

I got the last single bottle of 14 last week at TW. Here’s hoping for a good coupon for the 4th and a restock
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#53 Post by Ron Erickson » June 25th, 2019, 8:28 am

I added to what I had a few weeks ago, and also picked up a couple 16's to do a side by side Alfert in 10 years.
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#54 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » June 25th, 2019, 8:34 am

Let’s do it!

Has anyone ever done a deep vertical of this classic Chateau?

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#55 Post by Marc Frontario » June 26th, 2019, 7:18 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 8th, 2019, 8:21 am
Alfert is man and myth. Country wrapped in Boss. Humble mired in hubris. A walking, talking enigma. An enigma wrapped in mystery. A deer slayer and purveyor of foie gras; a dog fanatic. A liberal voice of reason in the right-wing South. An inherent contradiction of sorts.

But in all things Lanessan, he’s knows his sh*t. This wine is excellent.

Disregard his palate and prose on all else.

Glad this one hit the mark, Counselor.

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#56 Post by dteng » June 26th, 2019, 7:58 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 8th, 2019, 8:21 am
Alfert is man and a Miss. Country rapping the Boss. Humble pie topped with stupid. A walking, talking stigma. A stigma wrapped in misery. A beer slayer and purveyor of fall grass; a dog fanatic. A liberal pop of seasoning in the wing-ding mouth. An inherent contradiction wearing shorts.
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#57 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » June 26th, 2019, 8:30 pm

dteng wrote:
June 26th, 2019, 7:58 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 8th, 2019, 8:21 am
Alfert is man and a Miss. Country rapping the Boss. Humble pie topped with stupid. A walking, talking stigma. A stigma wrapped in misery. A beer slayer and purveyor of fall grass; a dog fanatic. A liberal pop of seasoning in the wing-ding mouth. An inherent contradiction wearing shorts.
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Haha, freakin love it!

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#58 Post by Marc Frontario » June 27th, 2019, 2:56 am

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I cannot escape the ravages of this man....R.Alfert

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#59 Post by Marc Frontario » June 27th, 2019, 5:35 am

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#60 Post by Marc Frontario » June 27th, 2019, 5:40 am

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#61 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » June 27th, 2019, 6:52 am

Marc Frontario wrote:
June 27th, 2019, 2:56 am
A capitalist loving liberal
A progressive capitalist

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#62 Post by Marc Frontario » June 27th, 2019, 7:10 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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Marc Frontario wrote:
June 27th, 2019, 2:56 am
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A crapitalist? [wink.gif]
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#63 Post by Charlie Carnes » June 27th, 2019, 10:52 am

I've always called myself an entremanure!
So shines a good deed in a weary world!

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#64 Post by Charlie Carnes » June 27th, 2019, 10:53 am

Hey, do you get the feeling that Robert will bump this from time to time just to read the thread title. I mean, I would.
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#65 Post by Chris Foley » June 27th, 2019, 12:08 pm

Charlie Carnes wrote:
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I've always called myself an entremanure!
That must be similar to a kindasewer.
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#66 Post by Claus Jeppesen » July 5th, 2019, 10:54 am

Yes Alfret was right
On his recommendation i bought 2010 Lanessan back then and it is now a pleasure to drink. Still very young

Although far to cheap to be worth a note here, it is splendid [berserker.gif]
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#67 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 5th, 2019, 11:22 am

I don’t know that Alfret guy, but he sure sounds brilliant. And handsome.

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#68 Post by Kenny H » July 5th, 2019, 1:09 pm

Neal, you are not suppose to feed the bears.
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#69 Post by Jay Miller » July 5th, 2019, 1:17 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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I don’t know that Alfret guy, but he sure sounds brilliant. And handsome.
Such jealousy is not becoming.

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#70 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 5th, 2019, 1:42 pm

Kenny H wrote:
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Neal, you are not supposed to feed the bears.
Or Owls.

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#71 Post by D@ve D y r 0 f f » July 5th, 2019, 1:44 pm

One of our three local TWM locations has it at 19.99, and I have a 20% off four bottles coupon (and only the '15 and '16 in the cellar or on order among recent vintages), so I took the advice here and ordered four. Looking forward to it, thanks for the tip!

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#72 Post by Claus Jeppesen » July 6th, 2019, 6:56 am

IMO you would get much more value from buying 2014 Sociando @ a slightly higher price
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#73 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 6th, 2019, 7:56 am

Claus Jeppesen wrote:
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IMO you would get much more value from buying 2014 Sociando @ a slightly higher price
I think they are two different plays. Gotta grab both if you like the style. With that TW coupon, Lanessan is 1/2 the price off Sociando. The Sociando is a much better wine, by my gosh, at the price, Lanessan is beyond a stupid value. Buy cases of it and enjoy over next 20. Same with that Sociando. The two best values in 2014, and I’d call Sociando one of the wines of the vintage outside of the Firsts and Super Seconds.

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#74 Post by Mark Thompson » August 7th, 2019, 7:11 pm

In Boston tonight on a work trip - had dinner at Troquet on South. We paid $40 for a bottle of ‘70 Lanessan in their “Summer Wine Sale” and all I can say is holy crap! One of the best noses I’ve experienced on an old Bordeaux. With some air, there was almost a Burgundian quality - similar to Vosne spice with which I’m absolutely obsessed. The palate was fading a bit and probably peaked in the high 80’s if I was forced to score it, but the overall experience was solid mid-90’s. I would put it in the same league as the superb ‘82 Magdelaine I tried a few weeks ago—both spectacular and somehow very distinctive relative to most other old Bordeaux I have tried.

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#75 Post by Mark Thompson » August 7th, 2019, 7:18 pm

..and Alfert paid me $20 to bump this thread. [wink.gif]

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#76 Post by Craig G » August 7th, 2019, 7:32 pm

Mark Thompson wrote:
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..and Alfert paid me $20 to bump this thread. [wink.gif]
His check might bounce after his California trip.
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#77 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 7th, 2019, 7:39 pm

Best $20 ever. That Ovid thread sullied my Street Cred. This thread restores all that is good about the universe.

Awesome note, Mark! I’ve had 75 Lanessan but nothing older. Just grabbed more Maggie. One cannot have enough.

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#78 Post by Charlie Carnes » August 8th, 2019, 4:02 am

Mark Thompson wrote:
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..and Alfert paid me $20 to bump this thread. [wink.gif]
I believe that. See post #64...
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#79 Post by J.Vizuete » September 8th, 2019, 9:20 pm

2014 Lanessan (posted from CT)

“This is a fantastic little value with age-ability galore. Relatively complex aromatics with tar, scorched earth, and lilac. Ample weight of fruit with a clean delivery, fairly high acidity. What a wonderful bottle to cellar for the next 10-15 A poor man’s LMHB. 92 pts”

Neal made a good point at the outset that this could appeal to the modern or traditional camp. From my more limited experience, it seems to lean traditional but I certainly agree with the sentiment.
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#80 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » September 9th, 2019, 4:32 am

LOL. Every time I see a new note. I run out to go buy a few more.

Amazing how much pleasures simple Cru - and these are better than “simple” - can offer with some age. I just popped a 2001 Chateau a couple days ago. Was not a great wine, but was a lovely mature wine showing a range of ancillary notes, for all of $20 from a local retailer. The 2001 Lanessan is better.

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#81 Post by Howard Cooper » September 9th, 2019, 5:05 pm

"Robert A. Alfert, Jr., was right"

"Neal made a good point"

[scratch.gif] [bleh.gif] [worship.gif] champagne.gif I guess the theme is the invasion of the attorneys. [cheers.gif]
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#82 Post by David Glasser » September 9th, 2019, 6:24 pm

Howard Cooper wrote:
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"Robert A. Alfert, Jr., was right"

"Neal made a good point"

[scratch.gif] [bleh.gif] [worship.gif] champagne.gif I guess the theme is the invasion of the attorneys. [cheers.gif]
I fell asleep while reading this thread, and I now feel a strange compulsion to go out and buy cases of 2014 Lanessan.

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#83 Post by Al Osterheld » September 9th, 2019, 8:36 pm

I fell asleep while reading this thread, and I now feel a strange compulsion to go out and buy cases of 2014 Lanessan.
Well, it won't set you back very much.

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#84 Post by EHeffner » September 11th, 2019, 7:23 pm

Decant the 14 Lanessan or nah?
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#85 Post by David Glasser » September 21st, 2019, 10:59 pm

Al Osterheld wrote:
September 9th, 2019, 8:36 pm
I fell asleep while reading this thread, and I now feel a strange compulsion to go out and buy cases of 2014 Lanessan.
Well, it won't set you back very much.

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True, but I did find myself driving in a zombie-like state all the way to the McLean VA TW to pick up a case. Clearly irrational behavior.

First bottle took a few hours to open up. Evan, decant ahead or if you have time let it open in the glass. Very nice, just as DavidB and Robert describe it.

Wondering whether they are worth cellaring another 5-10+ years.

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