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#1 Post by Robert M yers » May 30th, 2019, 3:26 am

I have to admit I never saw this one coming. Why not though as everyone seems to be making bubbles these days. He does up the ante though with 100% Pinot Meunier Grapes from Champagne...price $240 per Magnum. Put in your request for a chance at a random drawing.

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#2 Post by R_Gilbane » May 30th, 2019, 6:21 am

Seems like a swing and a miss to me. $240 for a magnum of champagne from a producer with no track record (related to champagne)....easy pass. Good for him that he’s doing what he loves and I’ve certainly enjoyed many of his other wines but this is a bridge too far.
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#3 Post by Matt A u s t i n » May 30th, 2019, 7:07 am

R_Gilbane wrote:
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Seems like a swing and a miss to me. $240 for a magnum of champagne from a producer with no track record (related to champagne)....easy pass. Good for him that he’s doing what he loves and I’ve certainly enjoyed many of his other wines but this is a bridge too far.
Christophe’s family has a long history in Champagne and the source of the grapes is the family’s vineyards there, so I don’t think it is exactly the case that there is no track record here.
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#4 Post by Mark Morrissette » May 30th, 2019, 7:36 am

If nothing else, he is a great marketer.

Pretty smart to make the first release very limited, and make lots of us run to sign up for the list, even if we are not really sure we want it!

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#5 Post by Robert M yers » May 30th, 2019, 7:44 am

I might bite if it had been 2 x 750 instead of a magnum, but just really do not like the one and done aspect, especially at the price point.

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#6 Post by Brandon R » May 30th, 2019, 8:05 am

I'm intrigued enough to attempt to get on the list and buy one. Like mentioned above, he has strong ties to Champagne and, if nothing else, knows how they do it over there and presumably what good Champagne should be.
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#7 Post by SeanHarding » May 30th, 2019, 9:40 am

Robert M yers wrote:
May 30th, 2019, 7:44 am
I might bite if it had been 2 x 750 instead of a magnum, but just really do not like the one and done aspect, especially at the price point.
Same. I don't buy magnums (I have literally never bought a magnum of anything the entire time I've been buying wine), so that right there kills it for me if the price point doesn't. I'll be very interested to hear how these are from those who buy, though.

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#8 Post by Scott G r u n e r » May 30th, 2019, 9:53 am

I would be very very interested to try, but have to admit the pricing is pretty aggressive and makes me feel like I would be buying for FOMO more than anything else. I have no doubts it will be good and interesting. Christophe does not half ass anything and it will surely push some boundaries. Just not sure it fits in with my budget in any way shape or form, especially with a ton of good champagne available.
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#9 Post by Doug Schulman » May 30th, 2019, 10:01 am

Sure, his family has a long history in Champagne, but that seems irrelevant. Has he ever made Champagne? Has anyone here had Champagne made by his family (do they even make their own wine?) and thought it was worth this kind of price? I hope the wine is great and that buyers keep going back for more. I am very interested to see some tasting notes once it gets released.
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#10 Post by Brandon R » May 30th, 2019, 11:04 am

That's fair, Doug. That said, if the guy already produces what I consider to be world class wine, I think the fact that he's decided to apply that same skill set to producing a product that he and his family grew up around, that would bode well. I'd be less excited if he chose to make, say, a Burgundian-styled Pinot Noir for that same reasoning.
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#11 Post by Scott Brunson » May 30th, 2019, 4:51 pm

So a top notch winemaker, but with no experience making Champagne is going to make champagne and price it at Krug-ish level...?
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#12 Post by Cary Rosner » May 30th, 2019, 5:44 pm

Very easy to say pass but this guy has an amazing pedigree and I’m sure he’s thinking can I hold my own against the greats, I’ll bet on this horse!

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#13 Post by Scott Brunson » May 30th, 2019, 6:07 pm

Making top notch Champagne is very different from making top notch Syrah.
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#14 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 30th, 2019, 6:29 pm

Scott Brunson wrote:
May 30th, 2019, 6:07 pm
Making top notch Champagne is very different from making top notch Syrah.
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#15 Post by Brandon R » May 31st, 2019, 10:42 am

Care to elaborate, Scott and Bill?
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#16 Post by R_Gilbane » May 31st, 2019, 10:58 am

Regardless of what his family pedigree is, or his current accomplishments, that does not guarantee future success in making champagne. Like I previously said, I enjoy his wines and am a buyer of some of them. But not this. At this price point and with something completely different, it makes zero sense to me. To each his/her own.
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#17 Post by Keith A k e r s » May 31st, 2019, 11:47 am

Brandon R wrote:
May 31st, 2019, 10:42 am
Care to elaborate, Scott and Bill?
it's not that hard to understand. Hell, just because he makes killer syrah from Washington doesn't mean he'd be able to make killer Syrah from Cote-Rotie and it especially doesn't mean that he'd know how to make a great traditional method Champagne. There's a ton of process that goes into making champagne that is unique only to making bubbles. He's also dealing with a method that isn't always user friendly in the wine making process.

Does any of that mean I'm a buyer? I'd have to see some reviews first from trusted sources or get info from those that I trust before dropping $240 on a maggie of Meunier that doesn't have any track record.

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#18 Post by Brandon R » May 31st, 2019, 12:53 pm

So, it's not necessarily the price that annoys you but, rather, that he's making a totally different style of wine? In other words, the price point he came it at with Hors Categoire didn't bother you because he's already "good" with Syrah. Right?
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#19 Post by Keith A k e r s » May 31st, 2019, 3:01 pm

Brandon R wrote:
May 31st, 2019, 12:53 pm
So, it's not necessarily the price that annoys you but, rather, that he's making a totally different style of wine? In other words, the price point he came it at with Hors Categoire didn't bother you because he's already "good" with Syrah. Right?
What are you trying to say and where did I say that I "am annoyed" by any of this?

I wouldn't drop $240 on a mag from any producer that has zero track record without seeing reviews from trusted sources first. I especially wouldn't do that on something that requires as much attention as making Champagne can be.

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#20 Post by Travis @llen » June 1st, 2019, 9:50 am

Looking forward to buying, and happy to pop mine with the Seattle folks when it arrives. I'm a big fan of Pinot Meunier (Egly Ouriet and Jose Michel Meunier always hit it out of the park). Christophe is a perfectionist, visionary viticulturist and excellent winemaker... I don't have any hesitation to buy or doubt that this will be anything less than excellent. Also, I think most people would agree that there is something extraordinary about 1.5l champagne over any other size format, mags of champagne simply taste better. The fact that he bottled this only in MAG is a testament to his pursuit of quality - I love it.
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#21 Post by Brandon R » June 4th, 2019, 1:23 pm

Well, a heck of a nice review just showed up over on Vinous (96 pts. from Galloni). Just posting FWIW...not passing judgement one way or another.
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#22 Post by ericskitei » June 4th, 2019, 10:14 pm

SeanHarding wrote:
May 30th, 2019, 9:40 am
Robert M yers wrote:
May 30th, 2019, 7:44 am
I might bite if it had been 2 x 750 instead of a magnum, but just really do not like the one and done aspect, especially at the price point.
Same. I don't buy magnums (I have literally never bought a magnum of anything the entire time I've been buying wine), so that right there kills it for me if the price point doesn't. I'll be very interested to hear how these are from those who buy, though.
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#23 Post by Scott G r u n e r » June 5th, 2019, 10:05 am

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#24 Post by SeanHarding » June 5th, 2019, 10:15 am

ericskitei wrote:
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Everything tastes better from large format!!! [head-bang.gif]
That's why I'm such a fan of Costco pizza!

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#25 Post by Mark Y » June 5th, 2019, 11:03 am

Like the guy, like his Cayuse wines.. and i assume i'm not required to buy 3 packs of this.. for $240 for a mag.. i'm in, if anything just to try it.
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#26 Post by Mike Maguire » June 5th, 2019, 4:50 pm

I already have one in the cellar champagne.gif

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#27 Post by Robert M yers » June 5th, 2019, 5:36 pm

Mike Maguire wrote:
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I already have one in the cellar champagne.gif
How do we entice you to open it up and spill the beans...that’s the problem with onesies I guess. I’m guilty of holding them too long.

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#28 Post by Mike Maguire » June 5th, 2019, 5:50 pm

Robert M yers wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 5:36 pm
Mike Maguire wrote:
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I already have one in the cellar champagne.gif
How do we entice you to open it up and spill the beans...that’s the problem with onesies I guess. I’m guilty of holding them too long.
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#29 Post by ericskitei » June 5th, 2019, 9:52 pm

SeanHarding wrote:
June 5th, 2019, 10:15 am
ericskitei wrote:
June 4th, 2019, 10:14 pm

Everything tastes better from large format!!! [head-bang.gif]
That's why I'm such a fan of Costco pizza!
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#30 Post by Bryan Carr » June 7th, 2019, 12:28 pm

We can so rarely rationalize dropping $120+/750 on anything, even things we know we like so this was an easy pass for us. There's lots of sub $120 champagne we know and love that we're not buying that much of (larmandier bernier anyone?) so this wasn't even remotely tempting. Honestly Christophe's series of increasingly exclusive offers gets a bit of a chuckle from me, I mean, he's a great winemaker but still, it's kind of amusing to watch. I'm waiting for a Christophe dessert wine to come out, one case of 375s, where only the 12 victors in a Thunderdome get the privilege to buy.
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#31 Post by Robert M yers » June 19th, 2019, 9:00 am

Ok so I win a lottery I’m pretty sure I was trying to lose to avoid the temptation. Curiosity may get the best of me here.

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#32 Post by scamhi » June 19th, 2019, 9:09 am

SeanHarding wrote:
May 30th, 2019, 9:40 am
Robert M yers wrote:
May 30th, 2019, 7:44 am
I might bite if it had been 2 x 750 instead of a magnum, but just really do not like the one and done aspect, especially at the price point.
Same. I don't buy magnums (I have literally never bought a magnum of anything the entire time I've been buying wine), so that right there kills it for me if the price point doesn't. I'll be very interested to hear how these are from those who buy, though.
I buy magnums. They are perfect for parties of 12-20+ people.
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#33 Post by mmoyer » June 19th, 2019, 9:23 am

I am curious....if you did get an allocation is it greater than 1?
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#34 Post by Kelly Walker » June 19th, 2019, 9:30 am

Pulled the trigger. Only 1/1000 mag per person.
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#35 Post by Brandon R » June 19th, 2019, 9:31 am

I was allocated one as well and bought it. I don't want to be the one to attempt to properly input this into CellarTracker!
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#36 Post by Scott G r u n e r » June 19th, 2019, 9:35 am

Pretty sure it will all be 1 per for this year.
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#37 Post by Brandon R » June 19th, 2019, 9:53 am

Update: it's been added to CT. Properly. I tried and got all fouled up with the vineyard and region and, and...
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#38 Post by Mark Morrissette » June 19th, 2019, 10:51 am

I made the list as well. I am kind of curious... anyone who entered the lottery NOT get an allocation?

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#39 Post by jeffruggels » June 19th, 2019, 11:26 am

in for 1 as well

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#40 Post by Mike Q » June 19th, 2019, 12:21 pm

I didn’t get an offer.
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#41 Post by terrance.c » June 19th, 2019, 12:46 pm

I didn't get an offer as well.
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#42 Post by Mark Y » June 19th, 2019, 12:56 pm

Got 1. And bought. Probably more out of FOMO but I figured it’s one bottle so there is limited downside risk.
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#43 Post by James Kennedy » June 19th, 2019, 3:05 pm

No offer here. Would kind of like an email indicating the status, even if it’s a rejection. Maybe they’re holding off in case some lottery winners don’t take a bottle?

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#44 Post by K John Joseph » June 19th, 2019, 3:06 pm

James Kennedy wrote:
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No offer here. Would kind of like an email indicating the status, even if it’s a rejection. Maybe they’re holding off in case some lottery winners don’t take a bottle?
You submitted for the both of us on this too, right?
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#45 Post by James Kennedy » June 19th, 2019, 3:32 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
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James Kennedy wrote:
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No offer here. Would kind of like an email indicating the status, even if it’s a rejection. Maybe they’re holding off in case some lottery winners don’t take a bottle?
You submitted for the both of us on this too, right?
I’ll forward you my rejection letter if it ever arrives

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#46 Post by NED VALOIS » June 19th, 2019, 3:43 pm

I'll try most anything; In for one.

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#47 Post by Michael Fess » June 19th, 2019, 3:56 pm

No offer here. I probably would have bought.

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#48 Post by Mark Y » June 19th, 2019, 4:13 pm

Winners have until 7/12 to buy.
So I expect 7/13 a second wave will go out.
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#49 Post by Ron Slye » June 19th, 2019, 4:23 pm

The offer says that if we do not take our allocation, then it will be offered to others on the waitlist. So I don't think anyone has been rejected yet.

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#50 Post by Mark Y » June 19th, 2019, 4:37 pm

Ron Slye wrote:
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The offer says that if we do not take our allocation,
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