Anyone tried the 2017 Becklyns yet?

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Anyone tried the 2017 Becklyns yet?

#1 Post by Frank Z » May 20th, 2019, 9:24 am

Got an email a few days ago regarding the 2017 Cabernet release, along with a new wine they are introducing using the best blocks of Missouri Hopper.

Can't find anything on CT - has anyone tasted these at all? I really enjoyed the 2016 but am not sure whether to jump in on the 2017s or not.

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#2 Post by Frank Z » May 22nd, 2019, 9:42 am

Here's the letter:

Friends,

It's almost that time of year. The Becklyn Cellars release date is Tuesday June 4th beginning at 9am PDT. We will be offering the 2017 Napa Valley, Reserve, and Beckstoffer Missouri Hopper Cabernets along with our 2018 Sauvignon Blanc. I have some exciting news. Mike and I will be adding a new wine to the Becklyn family. We searched the best French oak barrel makers we could find in Tonnellerie Bel Air and Taransaud to hand craft the barrels for the new wine. We then picked the best row of the Beckstoffer Missouri Hopper Vineyard to source the fruit. What we are left with is a new wine called Pangkarra. Pangkarra is an aboriginal term translated as "Mankinds Relationship to the Earth". The new artwork for Pangkarra is a painting of the famous Becklyn Tree done by artist Clay Crymes of Fayetteville Arkansas. We are excited about the 2017 vintage and look forward to sharing it with each of you.

Remember to drink a glass of Becklyn at the center of your universe!

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#3 Post by NickRut » May 23rd, 2019, 10:28 am

Wondering the same. Hard to pass but all 17's have me a bit nervous. Will probably go in for at least a case as always.
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#4 Post by mattcitrang » May 23rd, 2019, 11:55 am

Is the concern about smoke?

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#5 Post by Bud Carey » May 23rd, 2019, 12:03 pm

If Mike Smith makes it, I'm a buyer. He would never release an inferior wine.
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#6 Post by Bdklein » May 23rd, 2019, 12:09 pm

Bud Carey wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 12:03 pm
If Mike Smith makes it, I'm a buyer. He would never release an inferior wine.
Maybe, but some years are better than others . And 17 ain’t on the top of the list .
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#7 Post by NickRut » May 23rd, 2019, 1:35 pm

Bdklein wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 12:09 pm
Bud Carey wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 12:03 pm
If Mike Smith makes it, I'm a buyer. He would never release an inferior wine.
Maybe, but some years are better than others . And 17 ain’t on the top of the list .

I’m confident mike and team will do the absolute best they can with the raw product, but the question is whether 17 as a vintage is significantly worse than 15 and 16 in my mind. Not concerned about smoke from known producers.
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#8 Post by Bdklein » May 23rd, 2019, 2:30 pm

NickRut wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 1:35 pm
Bdklein wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 12:09 pm
Bud Carey wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 12:03 pm
If Mike Smith makes it, I'm a buyer. He would never release an inferior wine.
Maybe, but some years are better than others . And 17 ain’t on the top of the list .

I’m confident mike and team will do the absolute best they can with the raw product, but the question is whether 17 as a vintage is significantly worse than 15 and 16 in my mind. Not concerned about smoke from known producers.
Makes sense , but with the supposed great 2018’s lurking that’s a decision making factor too.
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#9 Post by NickRut » May 23rd, 2019, 2:38 pm

Bdklein wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 2:30 pm
NickRut wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 1:35 pm
Bdklein wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 12:09 pm


Maybe, but some years are better than others . And 17 ain’t on the top of the list .

I’m confident mike and team will do the absolute best they can with the raw product, but the question is whether 17 as a vintage is significantly worse than 15 and 16 in my mind. Not concerned about smoke from known producers.
Makes sense , but with the supposed great 2018’s lurking that’s a decision making factor too.

Valid point. I’ll end up just buying it all 🤷🏻‍♂️
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#10 Post by Bud Carey » May 23rd, 2019, 2:45 pm

Me too.
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#11 Post by Scott Brunson » May 23rd, 2019, 3:35 pm

I'm more concerned about the heat spikes than about the smoke. I will temper my buying in the '17 vintage (across the board).
I need an excuse to conserve funds and space.
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#12 Post by Frank Z » May 23rd, 2019, 4:35 pm

Scott Brunson wrote:
May 23rd, 2019, 3:35 pm
I'm more concerned about the heat spikes than about the smoke. I will temper my buying in the '17 vintage (across the board).
I need an excuse to conserve funds and space.
Same. More concerned about heat spikes. I have bought 2017 Myriad and will be buying 2017 Carter, but given I have heard absolutely nothing about 2017 Becklyn is making me weary. May end up going in small for a mixed 3-pk.
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#13 Post by Matthew Denny » May 29th, 2019, 11:35 am

The 17s are much like the 2012s, but 100% no smoke issue

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#14 Post by Chris Atkins » May 29th, 2019, 10:24 pm

Awfully early for 17's at this stage, mostly still in barrel. Their development across the Valley will certainly be interesting. There seems to be less negativity for 2017 as compared to 2011, but I betting on the former to be the superior vintage.

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#15 Post by NickRut » June 2nd, 2019, 7:44 pm

Bump since these come out in a couple days. Anyone try yet?

Matt - saw your mention of the 2012s earlier - any bit you can elaborate?
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#16 Post by Alan Eden » June 2nd, 2019, 8:01 pm

Chris Atkins wrote:
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Awfully early for 17's at this stage, mostly still in barrel. Their development across the Valley will certainly be interesting. There seems to be less negativity for 2017 as compared to 2011, but I betting on the former to be the superior vintage.
Yet the 11's have generally turned into great wines, i am actively seeking out 11 cabs for the balance and complexity that the green notes and acidity bring to the wines. I know im the only person in the world who thinks this but i prefer 11 cabs to 13's, the 13's are just big monsters that i dont think will come back into balance before the fruit disappears
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#17 Post by Frank Z » June 3rd, 2019, 3:23 pm

And it seems like they opened their ordering allocations early? I was able to login and order just now...
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#18 Post by Frank Z » June 3rd, 2019, 3:52 pm

Grabbed 3 NV Cabernet. Had added a Pangkarra but couldn't go through with the purchase without hearing anything about it. Looking forward to seeing how they fare at that price point against other heavy hitters.
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#19 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » June 3rd, 2019, 6:11 pm

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#20 Post by Alan Eden » June 3rd, 2019, 7:24 pm

Think it was a test window, closed now
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#21 Post by R_Gilbane » June 3rd, 2019, 8:29 pm

Nope it’s live.
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#22 Post by Chris Roberson » June 3rd, 2019, 9:15 pm

Anyone tried this one yet?

2017 Becklyn Pangkarra-Made in two new special selected French Oak barrels from row 56 in the Beckstoffer Missouri Hopper vineyard in Yountville this wine shows mulberries, a freshness of ripe ruby red notes of strawberry, cherries, and raspberry. It is laden with earth and mineral suggestions all the while remaining long on the finish with just a hint of crème de cassis as a final touch. Enjoy 2021-2045. 39 cases made.

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#23 Post by NickRut » June 4th, 2019, 5:50 am

Order in. 3 of each or the reds. Hope I don’t regret not getting more.
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#24 Post by Bud Carey » June 4th, 2019, 5:53 am

Have they even been bottled yet?
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#25 Post by Glen Gold » June 4th, 2019, 10:34 am

Chris Roberson wrote:
June 3rd, 2019, 9:15 pm

2017 Becklyn Pangkarra-Made in two new special selected French Oak barrels from row 56 in the Beckstoffer Missouri Hopper vineyard in Yountville this wine shows mulberries, a freshness of ripe ruby red notes of strawberry, cherries, and raspberry. It is laden with earth and mineral suggestions all the while remaining long on the finish with just a hint of crème de cassis as a final touch. Enjoy 2021-2045. 39 cases made.
I have to say, I'm very curious about any Mike Smith cab represented by only 468 bottles.
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#26 Post by Philip G » June 4th, 2019, 11:02 am

The MH has got to be one of the best deals going for that vineyard.

Does anyone know if the Reserve is the same as the Moulds reserve ($95) of the past or is this new?

Thinking of keeping it light since I went all in on Napa ‘16s, maybe a 4 or 6 pack of Cabs heavy on the Napa Valley for value.
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#27 Post by mattccheung » June 4th, 2019, 11:11 am

Took it light this round, will load up more next year. 2018 is a better vintage.

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#28 Post by NED VALOIS » June 4th, 2019, 11:13 am

In for a dozen.

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#29 Post by Dan Hammer » June 4th, 2019, 12:14 pm

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#30 Post by Keith Koshk!n » June 4th, 2019, 1:15 pm

I picked up 3x Napa, 1x Hopper, 1x Moulds. The Pangkarra sounds intriguing, but I didn't want to throw the money at it without any data.

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#31 Post by Philip G » June 5th, 2019, 12:39 pm

Keith Koshk!n wrote:
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I picked up 3x Napa, 1x Hopper, 1x Moulds. The Pangkarra sounds intriguing, but I didn't want to throw the money at it without any data.
3x Napa, 2x MH, 1x Pangkarra - figured I’d get 1 of the initial release.
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#32 Post by JLuch » June 6th, 2019, 2:51 pm

3x Napa, 2x MH, 1x Pangkarra for me as well. Figured if the Pangkarra turns in to a hit, at least I have one I can pride myself on.
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#33 Post by Scott Jameson » June 8th, 2019, 10:01 am

I just placed my order for an assortment of everything except the Pangkarra. While I still buy a few Cabs at or above that price level, I'm cutting back and not looking to add another one that's approaching $200.

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#34 Post by jeffruggels » June 8th, 2019, 12:45 pm

Passed this year, will be much lighter on 2017s than 2016s in general for vintage specific reasons as well as general trend

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#35 Post by Anton D » June 8th, 2019, 1:13 pm

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#36 Post by Chris H. » June 17th, 2019, 7:21 pm

I finally got around to ordering, and bought 6 Napa Valley (with an additional 4 wish listed), and 2 Missouri Hopper (never had it). The Pangkarra looks to be sold out. I like the Becklyn Reserve, but have 4 of the 2014 still aging away, so didn't order.. I really like the Napa Valley bottling, and find it drinks quite well young, I've probably had 4 bottles of the 2016 already. I am not very concerned about the 2017 vintage, qualitatively speaking, for known and trusted producers.
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