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ISO Wine Shops: Northern NJ / New York

#1 Post by John Flanagan » May 17th, 2019, 6:04 am

I just moved from the Bay Area to Bergen County (Old Tappan) in Northern New Jersey. Trying to navigate New Jersey’s liquor laws and to find good wine shops in the area. Any suggestions on where to find good wine selections? So far I’ve only been to Wegmans and Bottle King, both of which have mediocre wine sections. I’m mostly in search of places that carry a good selection of California wineries (e.g. Carlisle, Alpha Omega, Bedrock, Turley, Saxum, etc.), but I also buy Rhône’s, Bordeaux, and Champagne on occasion. There is a Total Wine not too far from me, but I prefer supporting the smaller shops. I will be working in Tarrytown, so New York is also doable as long as I don’t have to travel in to the city.

Living in New Jersey is quite a change from being only 45 minutes from Napa...

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#2 Post by cjsavino » May 17th, 2019, 6:11 am

Some places to consider

Wine Library

Gary’s Wine & Marketplace

Grapes the Wine Company in White Plains, get on his mailing list for the best offerings.

You also have a slew of NYC wine stores
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#3 Post by mattcitrang » May 17th, 2019, 6:14 am

Amanti Vino - Montclair

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#4 Post by Jayson Cohen » May 17th, 2019, 6:20 am

Echo Gary’s, which has multiple locations.

Many good wine shops not too far from Tarrytown along 287. Westchester Wines in White Plains is another one of them - a very large store but local.

Chain Buy Rite in NJ can have a good selection. (I know it’s a chain but you did move to Jersey.) I think they are in Bergen. Maybe one on Route 17?

Jay Hack may chime in here since he is a Cal Cab guy living in Westchester.

Otherwise, you should look at the Westchester delivery policy for the usual suspects in the City. Delivery to your office.

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#5 Post by David Cohen » May 17th, 2019, 6:22 am

welcome to the region, we should have a meet up in NYC to welcome you to the tristate area!

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#6 Post by Jay Miller » May 17th, 2019, 6:47 am

The Bottle King on Route 17 in Mahwah is the good one (and you can visit Kinchley's for pizza and egg creams before or after your visit).

The good Westchester stores might be more convenient. Nothing much on the Rockland side of the border.

Edited to add: nothing much in the way of good wine stores but you're not far from Rockland Bakery if you want to get good bread. My favorites are the challah, onion rye and Irish soda bread.
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#7 Post by Jayson Cohen » May 17th, 2019, 6:52 am

Jay Miller wrote:
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The Bottle King on Route 17 in Mahwah is the good one
Is this where Kay goes on trips to/from the City?

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#8 Post by Dale Williams » May 17th, 2019, 7:48 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
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Many good wine shops not too far from Tarrytown along 287. Westchester Wines in White Plains is another one of them - a very large store but local.
You mean Westchester Wine Warehouse? A few years ago while wasting time (wife was getting fish/vegs at Apple Farm in same plaza) I told aggressive manager I was just looking. He moves on, a sales rep comes in. I'm next aisle as rep starts telling manager about the great pricing they'll give on a new CdR if they take quantity, will have samples next week. Sales manager "great, we'll take a pallet- we'll slap a 92 on it and move it all in a week" Haven't stopped in there since.

I'd second GTWC/Posner, but need to be on email list to get the sharp pricing. Grape Expectations in T'town is a cute little store, nice people though not a huge selection, and a little more quirky Euro oriented.
Varmax in Port Chester has wider selection and decent pricing (coupon on website). Zachys is big but pricey, though occasionally great deals. Wine Connection/Max is a good store, but long ways from T'town. As Jayson mentions some NYC stores deliver free to Westchester.

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#9 Post by Ethan Abraham » May 17th, 2019, 9:39 am

Gary's in closter is pretty good. They get a good amount of burgundy and Bordeaux and often have good prices. And welcome to the hood! Someone should organize a north-east Bergen offline one of these days....what we lack in wine stores we certainly make up for in byo restaurants.

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#10 Post by Ethan Abraham » May 17th, 2019, 9:40 am

Also if you like fish Closter has the best fish store on the planet.

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#11 Post by Paul McCourt » May 17th, 2019, 10:08 am

Grape Expectations is a nice little shop in Tarrytown. Nothing spectacular, but the couple of times I have gone there, they were very nice people.
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#12 Post by JLuch » May 17th, 2019, 11:20 am

Echo Gary's Wine and Marketplace. He has been an acquaintance of mine for 15 years and runs a great business. A few things worth noting in addition to the fact he has a great selection of domestic and international wines:

1) If the store doesn't carry something you want, in a lot of cases it can still acquire it either direct from the winery (if it is someone they deal directly with) or through various distributors. You can go to the store and talk to one of the wine buyers/managers, they should be able to help you. If you have troubles, let me know and I can direct message you my contact.

2) They will take back/replace any bottles you purchased from the store if they are corked upon opening. Assuming you drank them within a reasonable amount of time or purchase, bring it back in and talk to one of the wine buyers, they will take care of it.

3) They will deliver to your house, assuming it is within a reasonable distance to a store.

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#13 Post by Ian H » May 17th, 2019, 4:25 pm

Definitely check out the Gary's in Wayne, about 30 minutes from where you are. Pretty solid. Wine Library in Springfield is a good 45 minute drive but also one to visit.
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#14 Post by Jorge Henriquez » May 17th, 2019, 4:34 pm

Welcome to area as well. If you’re willing to drive over the Cuomo/Tappan Zee Bridge, then Rochambeau in Dobbs Ferry is one of your best bets!
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#15 Post by Jim F » May 17th, 2019, 5:42 pm

Gary’s is a good operation. Very consistent selection year in and year out, good prices, sometimes very competitive. Also, quite a few house labels ((GF wines) that you should try and decide for yourself if they are of value ( some folks do, some do not); are often being poured at the tasting bar. Bottle King is even more warehouse styled and priced, usually very sharp pricing, but other than the very long list of crappy house brands, it is not always going to carry a consistent slate of brands. But they do get some surprising, e.g., not widely available, very good wines at very good prices, so it is good to keep an eye on them.
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#16 Post by jon leifer » May 17th, 2019, 7:38 pm

Would be very surprised if you find Carlisle, Bedrock, Alpha Omega in any appreciable quantity or selection..These are primarily mailing list wines.
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#17 Post by JIMCOH » May 18th, 2019, 4:19 am

Gary's and Grapes have been my main sources, even now that I am in CT. Another good one is Suburban Wines in Yorktown Heights.
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#18 Post by Sherri S h a p i r o » May 18th, 2019, 4:37 am

jon leifer wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 7:38 pm
Would be very surprised if you find Carlisle, Bedrock, Alpha Omega in any appreciable quantity or selection..These are primarily mailing list wines.
I have seen both Carlisle and Bedrock at Wine Library, Amanti Vino and Bottle King in NJ.

John - the best part about living in NJ as a wine lover is that there are many excellent BYO restaurants!

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#19 Post by JLuch » May 18th, 2019, 7:32 am

jon leifer wrote:
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Would be very surprised if you find Carlisle, Bedrock, Alpha Omega in any appreciable quantity or selection..These are primarily mailing list wines.
Jon, Gary’s wine and marketplace carries Carlisle, Bedrock, and Alpha Omega. A fair amount of the GF wines or white label wines Gary’s offers are from Alpha Omega, so he has a business relationship with them directly. They will stock the estate cab and Chardonnay after the fall release each year. The single vineyard wines might or might not be in their wood rooms, but can definitely be acquired through their distributor or the winery. I have done so in the past to get their LPV bottling.

They also carry a nice selection of other winemakers. Will find Rivers Marie, Spottswoode, Barnett, Bevan (on occasion), Dancing Hares, to name a few you might not find at the big box store.

Unfortunately I have not seen much in the way of Turley or Saxum, but could always inquire.

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#20 Post by JC J o u a s » May 18th, 2019, 8:04 am

Hi John,

Welcome to the area and if you truly wish to shop local, I work at the liquor store in the bistate Plaza in Old Tappan on Saturday afternoons for fun and would be happy to chat, try to win your business but if not, am equally happy to point you in the right direction.
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#21 Post by Chris T. » May 18th, 2019, 8:15 am

Gary’s, buy rite in jersey city, wine library, crush, chambers street
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#22 Post by Ken V » May 18th, 2019, 9:40 am

Lots of great stores in Manhattan that can ship to your office since it is in NYS. Chambers, Crush, ....
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#23 Post by jon leifer » May 18th, 2019, 5:12 pm

Sherri, Joe L: thanks fr the headsup, having moved upstate, I guess I am out of touch with the local retail scene..I am on the mailing lists of Bedrock, Carlisle and AO.
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#24 Post by Jim Hartten » May 19th, 2019, 6:10 am

You may want to check out Zacky’s in Scarsdale, NY. Great selection and able to source hard to get wines. [cheers.gif]

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#25 Post by Jorge Henriquez » May 19th, 2019, 12:28 pm

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#26 Post by Mike Ott » May 19th, 2019, 5:56 pm

Plucky wines. No storefront but great online selection (and excellent restaurant). The guy who runs it (Brian)is fantastic and if you’re looking for something specific they don’t have; he will look into getting it for you.

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#27 Post by John Flanagan » May 19th, 2019, 8:06 pm

Thanks so much for all of the suggestions! Looks like there are may great places to visit. I'm a little less worried now about getting good wine locally; living in California was really an abundance of riches.

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#28 Post by Jay Miller » May 20th, 2019, 6:24 am

Jayson Cohen wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 6:52 am
Jay Miller wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 6:47 am
The Bottle King on Route 17 in Mahwah is the good one
Is this where Kay goes on trips to/from the City?
That's the one.

Though I haven't been in a while so my information may be out of date. I used to spend time there both when I lived in Mahway (10 years ago) and later while my car was being serviced at Ramsey Mazda next door but these days I get a loaner and Arnold and I head up to Woodbury Commons for the day.
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#29 Post by John Morris » May 20th, 2019, 7:23 am

Jorge Henriquez wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 4:34 pm
Welcome to area as well. If you’re willing to drive over the Cuomo/Tappan Zee Bridge, then Rochambeau in Dobbs Ferry is one of your best bets!
I was going to mention them, too. Small and cramped but an interesting selection. I picked up a Navarro Chardonnay there a few years ago at a time when Navarro's wines were unheard of around NYC.

Since OP said he'll be working in Tarrytown, the bridge shouldn't be an issue. neener
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#30 Post by John Morris » May 29th, 2019, 9:23 am

Jay Miller wrote:
May 20th, 2019, 6:24 am
Jayson Cohen wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 6:52 am
Jay Miller wrote:
May 17th, 2019, 6:47 am
The Bottle King on Route 17 in Mahwah is the good one
Is this where Kay goes on trips to/from the City?
That's the one.

Though I haven't been in a while so my information may be out of date. I used to spend time there both when I lived in Mahway (10 years ago) and later while my car was being serviced at Ramsey Mazda next door but these days I get a loaner and Arnold and I head up to Woodbury Commons for the day.
Ramsay Bottle King is really a discovery! I've been there twice in the last 10 days on your recommendation. There is a lot of plonk there, but also very good stuff at great prices. They had very good prices on Mount Eden and Mount Veeder cabs and Ramey chardonnay, for instance. And they had '16 Ch. Cantemerle for $34, '16 Dom. Tempier Bandol for $46 and '15 Nervi Gattinara (now owned by Roberto Conterno) for $40. They were cleaned out of Charvin '16 Cotes du Rhone at $18 -- $5 or more cheaper than in NYC.

They have a lot of Kermit Lynch and Polaner imports.
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