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#1 Post by Jörgen Lindström Carlvik » May 16th, 2019, 12:15 pm

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#2 Post by Neal.Mollen » May 16th, 2019, 12:17 pm

My very best wishes to Bob in retirement. I hope he is reasonably healthy and can enjoy what he has earned.

This is such big news, I suspect it will generate a dozen -- or more! -- posts on his bulletin board. (I couldn't resist)
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#3 Post by Jay Miller » May 16th, 2019, 12:20 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:17 pm
My very best wishes to Bob in retirement. I hope he is reasonably healthy and can enjoy what he has earned.

This is such big news, I suspect it will generate a dozen -- or more! -- posts on his bulletin board. (I couldn't resist)
Ditto on both counts. I learned a lot from him back in the day. I wish him well.

Though a dozen might be overly optimistic.
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#4 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 16th, 2019, 12:22 pm

Good, Bad or Ugly, RMP guided my early wine buying and I can admit that I was a point chaser.

Like Neal, I hope he can enjoy his retirement.
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#5 Post by K John Joseph » May 16th, 2019, 12:28 pm

Similar thoughts. I hope he enjoys his retirement, his endless appearance opportunities, his fine wine collection, and his family and friends. Love him or hate him, he revolutionized the fine wine market, led many of us to many incredible wines (and Monkey 47 gin), and is certainly worthy of the Wine Hall of Fame.
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#6 Post by C Chen » May 16th, 2019, 12:46 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Similar thoughts. I hope he enjoys his retirement, his endless appearance opportunities, his fine wine collection, and his family and friends. Love him or hate him, he revolutionized the fine wine market, led many of us to many incredible wines (and Monkey 47 gin), and is certainly worthy of the Wine Hall of Fame.
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#7 Post by Anton D » May 16th, 2019, 12:48 pm

Wow, my first 100 point rating!

I am 100 points on this.
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#8 Post by Peter Kleban » May 16th, 2019, 12:48 pm

Jay Miller wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:20 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:17 pm
My very best wishes to Bob in retirement. I hope he is reasonably healthy and can enjoy what he has earned.

This is such big news, I suspect it will generate a dozen -- or more! -- posts on his bulletin board. (I couldn't resist)
Ditto on both counts. I learned a lot from him back in the day. I wish him well.

Though a dozen might be overly optimistic.
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#9 Post by Jörgen Lindström Carlvik » May 16th, 2019, 12:51 pm

Peter Kleban wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:48 pm
Jay Miller wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:20 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:17 pm
My very best wishes to Bob in retirement. I hope he is reasonably healthy and can enjoy what he has earned.

This is such big news, I suspect it will generate a dozen -- or more! -- posts on his bulletin board. (I couldn't resist)
Ditto on both counts. I learned a lot from him back in the day. I wish him well.

Though a dozen might be overly optimistic.
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#10 Post by Fred Bower » May 16th, 2019, 12:54 pm

Cue magnums of 2007 Chateauneuf du Pape. I wonder if there will be another like Parker or if the circumstances that made The Wine Advocate (and Parker) what it (he) was will never exist again. Love him or hate him, people generally had a reaction.

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#11 Post by BobH » May 16th, 2019, 12:54 pm

He is an amazing individual who had a career like few ever see or experience. I will miss him and this is truly well deserved. I don’t think wine would be the near ubiquitous beverage it is in the US if it was not for his influence.
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#12 Post by Peter Kleban » May 16th, 2019, 1:00 pm

Yes, and come to think of it, whatever you think of his rating methods, he made a significant contribution to the idea that what's important is how wine actually tastes, not how well known it is or hype.
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#13 Post by Bill Gibbs » May 16th, 2019, 1:07 pm

Yes, and come to think of it, whatever you think of his rating methods, he made a significant contribution to the idea that what's important is how wine actually tastes, not how well known it is or hype.
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#14 Post by Jay Miller » May 16th, 2019, 1:09 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Similar thoughts. I hope he enjoys his retirement, his endless appearance opportunities, his fine wine collection, and his family and friends. Love him or hate him, he revolutionized the fine wine market, led many of us to many incredible wines (and Monkey 47 gin), and is certainly worthy of the Wine Hall of Fame.
And Flannery. A number of us owe him a debt for that.
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#15 Post by Mark Golodetz » May 16th, 2019, 1:26 pm

I too learned an incredible amount from Parker’s writing. I found him less relevant as the years passed, but he was a force in the industry up until he relinquished control of the Advocate, and it’s strange to think that was only a decade ago.

Like it or not, so much of modern winemaking is a product of his taste, and despite some roll back, he still remains hugely important in California, and he changed forever the fortunes of several wine regions, particularly Southern Rhone. My guess is that history will judge him favorably. Long may he enjoy his retirement, it is well earned.
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#16 Post by David K o l i n » May 16th, 2019, 1:38 pm

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#17 Post by Scott G r u n e r » May 16th, 2019, 2:15 pm

Most influential wine critic, possibly in history. A truly remarkable career- wish him nothing but 100+ pointers in retirement.
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#18 Post by saul_cooperstein » May 16th, 2019, 2:22 pm

Jay Miller wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 1:09 pm
K John Joseph wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Similar thoughts. I hope he enjoys his retirement, his endless appearance opportunities, his fine wine collection, and his family and friends. Love him or hate him, he revolutionized the fine wine market, led many of us to many incredible wines (and Monkey 47 gin), and is certainly worthy of the Wine Hall of Fame.
And Flannery. A number of us owe him a debt for that.
I could be wrong but my memory is the Jeff Leve introduced Parker to Flannery...

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#19 Post by Neal.Mollen » May 16th, 2019, 2:25 pm

saul_cooperstein wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 2:22 pm
Jay Miller wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 1:09 pm
K John Joseph wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Similar thoughts. I hope he enjoys his retirement, his endless appearance opportunities, his fine wine collection, and his family and friends. Love him or hate him, he revolutionized the fine wine market, led many of us to many incredible wines (and Monkey 47 gin), and is certainly worthy of the Wine Hall of Fame.
And Flannery. A number of us owe him a debt for that.
I could be wrong but my memory is the Jeff Leve introduced Parker to Flannery...
Wasn't Parker a Lobels fan before Flannery?
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#20 Post by Bill Tex Landreth » May 16th, 2019, 2:25 pm

saul_cooperstein wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 2:22 pm
Jay Miller wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 1:09 pm
K John Joseph wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Similar thoughts. I hope he enjoys his retirement, his endless appearance opportunities, his fine wine collection, and his family and friends. Love him or hate him, he revolutionized the fine wine market, led many of us to many incredible wines (and Monkey 47 gin), and is certainly worthy of the Wine Hall of Fame.
And Flannery. A number of us owe him a debt for that.
I could be wrong but my memory is the Jeff Leve introduced Parker to Flannery...
<<<Sigh>>>

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#21 Post by Paul McCourt » May 16th, 2019, 2:26 pm

Scott G r u n e r wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 2:15 pm
Most influential wine critic, possibly in history. A truly remarkable career- wish him nothing but 100+ pointers in retirement.
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#22 Post by Jim F » May 16th, 2019, 2:30 pm

Here’s another wish for a happy retirement.
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#23 Post by James Sanders » May 16th, 2019, 2:30 pm

Her telling of the early years reminds me of how much I admired Parker when I was first getting into wine in the early 80s. But I wish that this false myth would be put to bed.

"In 1983, Parker’s controversial glowing reviews of the 1982 Bordeaux vintage, tasted from barrels in the wineries, created a stir among most other major wine writers who felt the vintage was too ripe and the wines wouldn’t age."

I was a voracious reader of wine criticism in those days, at at least for publications widely available in the US, the 1982 vintage received nearly universal acclaim.

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#24 Post by Greg Mitrakas » May 16th, 2019, 2:47 pm

He was very influential on me when I started to cut my teeth in this great and wonderous hobby. And he taught me to rely on my own palate and not that of others, and that is an invaluable lesson. Thank you RMP and enjoy your retirement to the fullest.

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#25 Post by Eric LeVine » May 16th, 2019, 2:48 pm

Here is a toast to Bob, his health and more time with family and friends.
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#26 Post by GregT » May 16th, 2019, 2:53 pm

I wish him well. I never subscribed to the WA nor did I buy much Bordeaux, and by the time I was willing to spend more than a few dollars on a bottle, I had decided what I liked. But I always respected what he brought to the world of wine. People blame him for "globalization" and such, but he forced nobody to do anything and he was willing to defend the wines that he liked. Without him I wonder if the Rhone or California would be where they are today.

He won't be replaced.

I've heard that his health is not great, so I sincerely hope that he can enjoy his retirement, and more importantly, I hope that he can still enjoy wine! All the best to him.

And just a suggestion, but they should really ask Joe Cz to proofread Lisa's work so the awkward syntax can be corrected. For a tribute, her note is less than inspiring:

"The father of modern wine criticism, our publication’s founder and namesake, my greatest mentor and a dear friend, it is with mixed feelings. . ."
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#27 Post by Jörgen Lindström Carlvik » May 16th, 2019, 2:56 pm

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#28 Post by Bruce G. » May 16th, 2019, 3:40 pm

I wish him all the best in retirement.
He's an interesting man with an undeniable passion for wine.

His legacy?... 84+
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#29 Post by T. Williams » May 16th, 2019, 3:43 pm

I came into the wine scene after his heyday, but completely appreciate what he did for the market. I’ll admit I own some of his books too, which provide some good insight as long as they are approached cautiously.
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#30 Post by Anton D » May 16th, 2019, 3:45 pm

GregT wrote:
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I wish him well. I never subscribed to the WA nor did I buy much Bordeaux, and by the time I was willing to spend more than a few dollars on a bottle, I had decided what I liked. But I always respected what he brought to the world of wine. People blame him for "globalization" and such, but he forced nobody to do anything and he was willing to defend the wines that he liked. Without him I wonder if the Rhone or California would be where they are today.
Wine buying prior to 1978 was much more fun, California was doing just fine.

Other than further commoditization of wine, I don't see the benefit, at all. I feel like he turned the New York Times Review of Books into TMZ.
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#31 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » May 16th, 2019, 3:46 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
May 16th, 2019, 12:28 pm
Similar thoughts. I hope he enjoys his retirement, his endless appearance opportunities, his fine wine collection, and his family and friends. Love him or hate him, he revolutionized the fine wine market, led many of us to many incredible wines (and Monkey 47 gin), and is certainly worthy of the Wine Hall of Fame.
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#32 Post by Gary York » May 16th, 2019, 3:58 pm

I wish him well in retirement. It must not be an easy thing to do knowing that your life's work will be destroyed.
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#33 Post by NoahR » May 16th, 2019, 4:13 pm

Gary York wrote:
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I wish him well in retirement. It must not be an easy thing to do knowing that your life's work will be destroyed.
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#34 Post by L e o F r o k i c » May 16th, 2019, 4:34 pm

I raise a glass and wish him well in his retirement. I have fun memories of the Board and interactions with him. Cheers! champagne.gif [cheers.gif] [cheers.gif]
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#35 Post by maureen nelson » May 16th, 2019, 4:38 pm

Well, that opening sentence tells me LPB can’t write.

I think a lot of people who came to TWA after Bob had been publishing it for several years don’t realize that in the early years Bob spent a lot of time describing the wine-making history of whatever region he was reviewing and explaining various elements of the entire process. As a result, most readers back then learned a ton from him. Hell, how else would I have known the importance of proper cellaring when I was just 22 years old?

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#36 Post by maureen nelson » May 16th, 2019, 4:44 pm

I think it was Terry Robards (?) and Robert Finnegan, both relatively well-known wine writers at the time, who disagreed with Bob on the ‘82 vintage. Others agreed with him.

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#37 Post by D.Callahan » May 16th, 2019, 5:00 pm

I would like to send out my thanks to Bob. He brought my attention to many fantastic wines and helped me define what I liked and didn't like. Helping me find my own way whether I agreed with him or not. I add my hope for a healthy and happy retirement for him and his wife.
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#38 Post by NoahR » May 16th, 2019, 5:02 pm

maureen nelson wrote:
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I think it was Terry Robards (?) and Robert Finnegan, both relatively well-known wine writers at the time, who disagreed with Bob on the ‘82 vintage. Others agreed with him.
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#39 Post by D.Callahan » May 16th, 2019, 5:07 pm

Only 11 posts so far on WA Forum vs 37 here!
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#40 Post by Neal.Mollen » May 16th, 2019, 5:13 pm

maureen nelson wrote:
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I think it was Terry Robards (?) and Robert Finnegan, both relatively well-known wine writers at the time, who disagreed with Bob on the ‘82 vintage. Others agreed with him.
Most of the brits disagreed too as I recall.
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#41 Post by Anton D » May 16th, 2019, 5:19 pm

D.Callahan wrote:
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Only 11 posts so far on WA Forum vs 37 here!
Well, we can post for free.
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#42 Post by NoahR » May 16th, 2019, 5:27 pm

Lisa’s article (and conventional hagiography) suggest that RMP’s reviews of 82 Bordeaux ‘which turned out to be right’ cemented his place among critics, seemingly as early as 1984. How the hell did they know the aging potential of 82 Bordeaux in 84?
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#43 Post by David Wright » May 16th, 2019, 5:31 pm

I recall seeing a tiny ad about the WA in 1987... "write for a free sample issue" (still have it somewhere). I subscribed for a few years, bought a few of his books, and learned a lot from him.

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#44 Post by Kris Patten » May 16th, 2019, 6:01 pm

He was a great guide in my formative wine years, as was the BB to finding new wines, values and vintages.

Even though a bit of a curmudgeon, not sure we will ever see as much influence from a single critic or publication again. He was well ahead of his time, loved what he loved, liked what he liked and hated what he hated....and consumers love transparency.

I bought lots of wines on his scores, sold lots too.

Hope he enjoys the rest of his life in retirement and appreciates the legacy he leaves.
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#45 Post by b. c@stner » May 16th, 2019, 6:02 pm

In the process of moving and sorting through "stuff". Discovered I still have every one of RP's Wine Buying Guides, Bordeaux books, etc etc.
Learned a ton from the man...
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#46 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » May 16th, 2019, 6:05 pm

First time I ever read about Donnhoff or Muller Catoir was in the Wine Advocate. My first Bordeaux purchases in the mid-1990s were recommended values from the Wine Advocate.

I may have come to disagree with Bob’s palate after several years, but he helped set me on a very enjoyable path.
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#47 Post by Glenn P » May 16th, 2019, 6:07 pm

I had the good fortune to tast wine with him over a half dozen times. Dowell, as he is called by his family, is truly an idiot savant when it comes to tasting wine. He was fiercely independent of the wine community and even more fiercely loyal to the only group he cared about, his readers! One may not agree with his taste, but he was remarkably consistent. No one, I predict, will ever remotely approach his talent!

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#48 Post by Yao C » May 16th, 2019, 6:08 pm

I wish him well too. We take it for granted, but after a lifetime of professional wine criticism I bet it's hard for him to just sit down and enjoy a wine in an uncomplicated way. I'm sure it's also taken a toll on his health. These are real sacrifices that he's made. Not to mention his intentions - to advocate on behalf of the wine consumer - were entirely pure and laudable to begin with, regardless of what TWA has now become. So cheers RMP [cheers.gif]
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Lisa’s article (and conventional hagiography) suggest that RMP’s reviews of 82 Bordeaux ‘which turned out to be right’ cemented his place among critics, seemingly as early as 1984. How the hell did they know the aging potential of 82 Bordeaux in 84?
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Re: Robert Parker retires

#49 Post by John Davis » May 16th, 2019, 6:15 pm

Wish him the best. Remember reading The Wine Advocate as soon as it arrived. I think I may drink from as many regions as I do because of him.
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Re: Robert Parker retires

#50 Post by S teve R edenbaugh » May 16th, 2019, 7:02 pm

Cheers, Bob. Just a wee drop of Pappy Rye in your honor.

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