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Whats your favourite wine characteristic ?

#1 Post by Alan Eden » March 18th, 2019, 10:40 am

What single chartacter style can get you excited, describe it in a few words, for me the following would be examples.

Steely minerality of a Chablis

Savoury bloodiness of a big Syrah

Creamy yeastiness of a fine Champagne

Curious what descriptors people come up with
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#2 Post by Craig G » March 18th, 2019, 10:46 am

For me it’s white wines that have a grippy texture on the palate (in addition to freshness and acidity - it probably wouldn’t interest me otherwise). Raveneau is my classic example. I’m not sure if this is actually tannin or something else.
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#3 Post by David_K » March 18th, 2019, 10:58 am

The alcohol? newhere
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#4 Post by Jim Stewart » March 18th, 2019, 11:40 am

David_K wrote:
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The alcohol? newhere
That's right up there with me too, David [cheers.gif] . I am not sure that I have a favorite wine characteristic in the sense of the examples. I enjoy having a wine with multiple characteristics that are pleasant, diverse, complex, and play well together. I especially enjoy wines which add some intriguingly elusive taste to the mix which makes me want to have another taste and ponder a bit.
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#5 Post by Markus S » March 18th, 2019, 11:47 am

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#6 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 18th, 2019, 11:51 am

Gaminess, especially in old world, more rustic Syrah
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#7 Post by Mark Y » March 18th, 2019, 11:56 am

Off the top of my head:
The decaying leaves/forest floor/mushroom notes of an aged burg
The cigar box/pencil shaving/leather of a Left bank
The honey, almond nuttiness of an aged Sauternes
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#8 Post by Mike Kuller » March 18th, 2019, 12:05 pm

The fruit of course!

Currant, rasberry in an aged cabernet.

Blackberries in a good zinfandel.

Subtle strawberries in a nice pinot noir.

Peach, pear, apple butter in a cool chardonnay.
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#9 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » March 18th, 2019, 1:50 pm

Generally, acidity.
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#10 Post by Neal.Mollen » March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm

Polish. And linearity.
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#11 Post by dsimmons » March 18th, 2019, 2:02 pm

I really love aged wines which have retained good fruitiness but the fruitiness is somewhat muted and the wine displays an elegance you don't see in younger bottles.
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#12 Post by K John Joseph » March 18th, 2019, 2:11 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
Damn it, Neal beat me to the punch. So I'll go with balance and complexity.
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#13 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 18th, 2019, 2:12 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
Polished linearity
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#14 Post by Paul Miller » March 18th, 2019, 2:14 pm

Mike Kuller wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 12:05 pm
The fruit of course!

Currant, rasberry in an aged cabernet.

Blackberries in a good zinfandel.

Subtle strawberries in a nice pinot noir.

Peach, pear, apple butter in a cool chardonnay.
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#15 Post by Paul Miller » March 18th, 2019, 2:14 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
As in coming from Poland?

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#16 Post by Marc Hauser » March 18th, 2019, 2:19 pm

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#17 Post by Neal.Mollen » March 18th, 2019, 2:22 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:12 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
Polished linearity
Eeew, no way! Gotta be linear polish.
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#18 Post by K John Joseph » March 18th, 2019, 2:28 pm

Paul Miller wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:14 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
As in coming from Poland?
No, it's when a wine is rubbed aggressively until glossy, then fined, filtered, bottled, buffed to a lustrous finish, and sold.
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#19 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 18th, 2019, 2:32 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:11 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
Damn it, Neal beat me to the punch. So I'll go with balance and complexity.
So generic! Take a stance young man!

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#20 Post by S teve R edenbaugh » March 18th, 2019, 2:34 pm

Balance...fruit and acid, secondary and tertiary notes of earth and fruit, tannin and fruit. Balance is so difficult to describe, but impossible to overlook.

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#21 Post by Jim Stewart » March 18th, 2019, 2:40 pm

Oh, we're doing that. OK. Atmospheric Terroir!
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#22 Post by Nick Ellis » March 18th, 2019, 2:44 pm

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#23 Post by K John Joseph » March 18th, 2019, 2:53 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:32 pm
K John Joseph wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:11 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
Damn it, Neal beat me to the punch. So I'll go with balance and complexity.
So generic! Take a stance young man!
Yeah, because being meek and wishy-washy is usually my problem! Okay, here's my stance:

I love 20 year old Napa cab as secondary and tertiary aromas first begin to creep in, but while the fruit is still fresh and delicious.
I love Oregon pinot noir because the bright red fruit and acidity give it so much verve without getting too sweet.
I love good super Tuscans that marry hints of bordeaux and napa with that trace of Italian funk.
I love finding a hit of mint in some Napa cabs.
I love the combination of mousse, cut, and richness in young vintage champagne (under 20) and prefer it to older vintage champagne.
I love the combination of stone and unbuttered popcorn in great young white burgundy.
I love the way Riesling smells with its green apple, honeysuckle, rock, and hint of petrol.
I love that just sharpened pencil smell that, mixed with a hint of shoe polish and unsweet fruit, defines Bordeaux for me.
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#24 Post by Jayson Cohen » March 18th, 2019, 2:57 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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Gaminess, especially in old world, more rustic Syrah
I’m very disappointed in your response. I thought for sure you would say: kitten fur.

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#25 Post by K John Joseph » March 18th, 2019, 2:59 pm

Jayson Cohen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:57 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 11:51 am
Gaminess, especially in old world, more rustic Syrah
I’m very disappointed in your response. I thought for sure you would say: kitten fur.
I thought he'd just say "Brett. 4-Ehtylphenol. The horse shit one. That's the strain of infection, I mean flaw, I mean attribute that I like most."
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#26 Post by Sh@n A » March 18th, 2019, 3:05 pm

The smell of sweet red fruit and earth on a burgundy.
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#27 Post by Mike Kuller » March 18th, 2019, 3:08 pm

Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
Sounds more like your new amplifier :-)
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#28 Post by Jim Stewart » March 18th, 2019, 3:21 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:53 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:32 pm
K John Joseph wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:11 pm


Damn it, Neal beat me to the punch. So I'll go with balance and complexity.
So generic! Take a stance young man!
Yeah, because being meek and wishy-washy is usually my problem! Okay, here's my stance:

I love 20 year old Napa cab as secondary and tertiary aromas first begin to creep in, but while the fruit is still fresh and delicious.
I love Oregon pinot noir because the bright red fruit and acidity give it so much verve without getting too sweet.
I love good super Tuscans that marry hints of bordeaux and napa with that trace of Italian funk.
I love finding a hit of mint in some Napa cabs.
I love the combination of mousse, cut, and richness in young vintage champagne (under 20) and prefer it to older vintage champagne.
I love the combination of stone and unbuttered popcorn in great young white burgundy.
I love the way Riesling smells with its green apple, honeysuckle, rock, and hint of petrol.
I love that just sharpened pencil smell that, mixed with a hint of shoe polish and unsweet fruit, defines Bordeaux for me.
Well observed and very well expressed. Bravo !!!
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#29 Post by ky1em!ttskus » March 18th, 2019, 4:22 pm

Oak.

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#30 Post by Howard Cooper » March 18th, 2019, 4:28 pm

Length. Every great wine I have ever had had a long lingering finish where the flavors kept changing as and after I drank it.
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#31 Post by Wes Barton » March 18th, 2019, 4:37 pm

Alluring aromatic complexity. The source depends on the wine, but it comes down to optimal site and optimal winemaking.
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#32 Post by YLee » March 18th, 2019, 4:46 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:11 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
Damn it, Neal beat me to the punch. So I'll go with balance and complexity.
Wouldnt linear and complex be a contradiction?
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#33 Post by Otto Forsberg » March 19th, 2019, 2:09 am

Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:50 pm
Generally, acidity.
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#34 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 19th, 2019, 4:09 am

Jim Stewart wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 3:21 pm
K John Joseph wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:53 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:32 pm


So generic! Take a stance young man!
Yeah, because being meek and wishy-washy is usually my problem! Okay, here's my stance:

I love 20 year old Napa cab as secondary and tertiary aromas first begin to creep in, but while the fruit is still fresh and delicious.
I love Oregon pinot noir because the bright red fruit and acidity give it so much verve without getting too sweet.
I love good super Tuscans that marry hints of bordeaux and napa with that trace of Italian funk.
I love finding a hit of mint in some Napa cabs.
I love the combination of mousse, cut, and richness in young vintage champagne (under 20) and prefer it to older vintage champagne.
I love the combination of stone and unbuttered popcorn in great young white burgundy.
I love the way Riesling smells with its green apple, honeysuckle, rock, and hint of petrol.
I love that just sharpened pencil smell that, mixed with a hint of shoe polish and unsweet fruit, defines Bordeaux for me.
Well observed and very well expressed. Bravo !!!
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#35 Post by Jim Stewart » March 19th, 2019, 5:01 am

Good point and expressed very testicularly, Robert A ! [cheers.gif]
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#36 Post by K John Joseph » March 19th, 2019, 5:44 am

YLee wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 4:46 pm
K John Joseph wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:11 pm
Neal.Mollen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:56 pm
Polish. And linearity.
Damn it, Neal beat me to the punch. So I'll go with balance and complexity.
Wouldnt linear and complex be a contradiction?
Lol, depends on your definition of linear.
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#37 Post by Mike Evans » March 19th, 2019, 6:18 am

The incredible range of non-fruit flavors and aromas that wine can exhibit, running the gamut from black pepper and bacon to flowers to salinity to baking spices.

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#38 Post by Kris Patten » March 19th, 2019, 7:26 am

Pine from Retsina.

Honestly in reds what gets me is stem inclusion and the resulting aromas young and with age, along with how it tends to fill the donut that is a hollow mid-palate on so many wines.

In whites it's the wet stone intermingled with stone fruits that can really grab my attention.

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#39 Post by Gerhard P. » March 19th, 2019, 11:27 am

Otto Forsberg wrote:
March 19th, 2019, 2:09 am
Brian G r a f s t r o m wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 1:50 pm
Generally, acidity.
+1
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#40 Post by larry schaffer » March 19th, 2019, 11:32 am

Mike Evans wrote:
March 19th, 2019, 6:18 am
The incredible range of non-fruit flavors and aromas that wine can exhibit, running the gamut from black pepper and bacon to flowers to salinity to baking spices.
Love these descriptors for sure. It's somewhat 'easy' to get a lot of fruit in wines - something entirely different to get non-fruit elements that 'play harmoniously' with that fruit . . .

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#41 Post by larry schaffer » March 19th, 2019, 11:34 am

Kris Patten wrote:
March 19th, 2019, 7:26 am
Honestly in reds what gets me is stem inclusion and the resulting aromas young and with age, along with how it tends to fill the donut that is a hollow mid-palate on so many wines.
Agreed entirely. When done right and 'integrated', stems just add a little something all around, and I love your 'donut hole' analogy - will use from now on [snort.gif]

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#42 Post by Ian H » March 19th, 2019, 4:24 pm

If I had to pick just one it's that feeling of energy and being alive which I guess I'd attribute to the acidity.

More narrow, lately I've been really digging what I consider to be the pepper aroma that you (or at least I) get from Northern Rhone.
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#43 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » March 19th, 2019, 4:31 pm

The aroma of honey on stones that only happens with well aged Riesling.
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#44 Post by Eric Ifune » March 19th, 2019, 4:38 pm

The rancio of a good wood aged fortified wine coupled with the complexity of long aging.

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#45 Post by Josh Grossman » March 19th, 2019, 4:48 pm

Nick Ellis wrote:
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#46 Post by Scott Watkins » March 19th, 2019, 4:57 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
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The aroma of honey on stones that only happens with well aged Riesling.
Nice, thanks for putting that aroma into words for me!
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#47 Post by Ken Strauss » March 19th, 2019, 5:03 pm

Silky texture
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#48 Post by Anton D » March 19th, 2019, 5:16 pm

It must pour well and assume the shape of its container.

As for specific characteristics, "truth."
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#49 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » March 19th, 2019, 5:39 pm

K John Joseph wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:59 pm
Jayson Cohen wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:57 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 11:51 am
Gaminess, especially in old world, more rustic Syrah
I’m very disappointed in your response. I thought for sure you would say: kitten fur.
I thought he'd just say "Brett. 4-Ehtylphenol. The horse shit one. That's the strain of infection, I mean flaw, I mean attribute that I like most."
Agreed! I failed on both points. Phuck game, bring me essence of kitten fur rolling in barn manure. Hits every dimension, a kaleidoscope of taste and aromas of highrise proportions, reaching the apotheosis of wine appreciation and evolution.
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#50 Post by Paul McCourt » March 19th, 2019, 5:58 pm

My favorite characteristic is how well its doing at retail.
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