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#1 Post by dcornutt » March 15th, 2019, 5:30 pm

  • 2014 Domaine Michel Niellon Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Les Chaumées Clos de la Truffière - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru (3/15/2019)
    This is an extraordinary wine. It is very young in many ways. The palate is big and shows a lot of structure. However, the nose is amazing. This is white burgundy to me! Beautiful
    golden fruit. Mineral. Powerful yet elegant. It is hard to put it into words. These 2014 Niellon's have a special element to them. That extra gear that you associate with the best white burgundies.
    Extraordinary!
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#2 Post by Kris Patten » March 15th, 2019, 8:31 pm

We were just appointed to sell Niellon, looking forward to trying learning more about them and tasting thru many.

Your note gets me more excited.
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#3 Post by Dennis Atick » March 16th, 2019, 5:01 am

Nice note, Don. Sounds really great.
I've yet to meet a 2014 white Burg I did not like.
Hope all is well..
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#4 Post by RyanC » March 16th, 2019, 7:57 am

Great note. I’ve had a few bottles of this and I agree completely—it’s special and an extraordinary QPR.
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#5 Post by dbailey » March 16th, 2019, 8:40 am

Dennis Atick wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 5:01 am
Nice note, Don. Sounds really great.
I've yet to meet a 2014 white Burg I did not like.
Hope all is well..
So true re 14 white burgs. Bought as much as I could get.
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#6 Post by William Kelley » March 16th, 2019, 8:57 am

Kris Patten wrote:
March 15th, 2019, 8:31 pm
We were just appointed to sell Niellon, looking forward to trying learning more about them and tasting thru many.

Your note gets me more excited.
Felicitations. They're on very good form at the moment. I bought quite a lot of their 2017s for my own cellar.
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#7 Post by Kris Patten » March 16th, 2019, 8:59 am

dbailey wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 8:40 am
Dennis Atick wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 5:01 am
Nice note, Don. Sounds really great.
I've yet to meet a 2014 white Burg I did not like.
Hope all is well..
So true re 14 white burgs. Bought as much as I could get.
Rank your favorites from 2008 - 2017 if you would.
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#8 Post by David Gerstenfeld » March 16th, 2019, 9:26 am

Has Niellon solved their premox problems? I’ve been burned by them so many times I’m leery of purchasing.

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#9 Post by alan weinberg » March 16th, 2019, 9:28 am

David Gerstenfeld wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 9:26 am
Has Niellon solved their premox problems? I’ve been burned by them so many times I’m leery of purchasing.
+1. Great in the early 90s—Batard and Chevalier.

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#10 Post by William Kelley » March 16th, 2019, 9:41 am

David Gerstenfeld wrote:
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Has Niellon solved their premox problems? I’ve been burned by them so many times I’m leery of purchasing.
They have certainly taken them seriously. Michel Coutoux is paying careful attention to dissolved oxygen during the racking and bottling processes. He has been perplexed by why premox affected some of his father-in-law's wines and not others and IIRC thinks it's down at least in part to how the wines were bottled. He also had some malolactic stability issues with some of his own wines so also monitors completion of malo very carefully. I have not experienced premox with recent vintages and buy the wines myself for what that's worth.
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#11 Post by Mike Grammer » March 16th, 2019, 11:02 am

I haven't had much newer Niellon, but as you say, William----if I remember peeking in at various Niellon notes over the last year or two, there doesn't seem to be nearly as much of a problem any longer.

Don, sounds lovely, and echo there are no 2014 whites that I haven't at least liked. How do you think the Chaumees vineyard itself stacks up in this vintage? I'm looking at (I think--have to check) a Vincent Girardin from that property from 2014.

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#12 Post by Pat Martin » March 16th, 2019, 1:03 pm

I had the 14 Vergers, loved it. How’s Niellon’s 2015s?
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#13 Post by William Kelley » March 16th, 2019, 1:20 pm

Pat Martin wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 1:03 pm
I had the 14 Vergers, loved it. How’s Niellon’s 2015s?
They are quite rich, fleshy, broad-shouldered wines. It was also the last vintage of Bâtard before they ripped up the vines (it's lying fallow right now). The Clos Saint-Jean was a particular success, as it was in 2017, and I thought the 2015 Maltroie was a bit on the ripe side. 2015 is a very good vintage for their reds, it's also worth noting.
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#14 Post by Howard Cooper » March 16th, 2019, 3:20 pm

I also have a couple of bottles of this wine and so loved Don's note.
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#15 Post by dcornutt » March 16th, 2019, 6:43 pm

Mike Grammer wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 11:02 am
I haven't had much newer Niellon, but as you say, William----if I remember peeking in at various Niellon notes over the last year or two, there doesn't seem to be nearly as much of a problem any longer.

Don, sounds lovely, and echo there are no 2014 whites that I haven't at least liked. How do you think the Chaumees vineyard itself stacks up in this vintage? I'm looking at (I think--have to check) a Vincent Girardin from that property from 2014.

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Mike. I haven't had any others from Les Chaumees but I have heard that the Ramonet was very successful. I can't imagine any from this terroir would be anything other than very good. I know that these vines of Niellon were supposedly planted in 1939 so it is a special plot. It is a small leased property that they do not own.
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#16 Post by dbailey » March 17th, 2019, 7:51 am

Kris Patten wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 8:59 am
Rank your favorites from 2008 - 2017 if you would.
Can’t do post 14 as I stopped buying and tasting after that vintage. From 8 to 14, it’s 14 a long way ahead of the rest.
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#17 Post by Charlie Gierling » March 18th, 2019, 2:01 am

Is Clos de la Truffière a part of Les Chaumées?
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#18 Post by dcornutt » March 18th, 2019, 4:51 am

Charlie Gierling wrote:
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Is Clos de la Truffière a part of Les Chaumées?
Yes. Charlie it is about half a hectare or so of very old vines. I think that is the reason he made the distinction.
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#19 Post by Howard Cooper » March 18th, 2019, 5:30 am

dbailey wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 7:51 am
Kris Patten wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 8:59 am
Rank your favorites from 2008 - 2017 if you would.
Can’t do post 14 as I stopped buying and tasting after that vintage. From 8 to 14, it’s 14 a long way ahead of the rest.
I find it a bit difficult to rank white Burgundy vintages in general, esp. in the period of 2008-2017. Pretty much all of them have been good vintages IMHO and I cannot think of any that I would really put confidently at the bottom. I agree that 2014 is clearly at the top, but for me with respect to the other vintages in this period I cannot find huge consistent differences in the vintages.
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#20 Post by Charlie Gierling » March 19th, 2019, 12:45 am

dcornutt wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 4:51 am
Charlie Gierling wrote:
March 18th, 2019, 2:01 am
Is Clos de la Truffière a part of Les Chaumées?
Yes. Charlie it is about half a hectare or so of very old vines. I think that is the reason he made the distinction.
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#21 Post by dcornutt » March 19th, 2019, 1:53 am

I would have no idea of the exact location. Michel Couteau would be the person to ask Charlie I would think. William Kelley lives in Burgundy much of the time. (Maybe all the time now?) He would be the most knowledgeable person who has participated in this thread for this kind of information. BTW, I love all your maps. They are amazing.
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#22 Post by William Kelley » March 19th, 2019, 5:34 am

dcornutt wrote:
March 19th, 2019, 1:53 am
I would have no idea of the exact location. Michel Couteau would be the person to ask Charlie I would think. William Kelley lives in Burgundy much of the time. (Maybe all the time now?) He would be the most knowledgeable person who has participated in this thread for this kind of information. BTW, I love all your maps. They are amazing.
I have an idea but I confess to not being sure, so I just wrote to Michel to ask and will report back.
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#23 Post by Pat Martin » March 19th, 2019, 6:31 am

Well, enablement rides again. I bought some Niellon 2014 Maltroie and 2014 Clos St Jean for $70 per. Couldn’t find any Truffiere nor Vergers for anything close to that price.
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#24 Post by William Kelley » March 19th, 2019, 7:39 am

A quick reply from Michel, translated:

"The Clos de la Truffière is a lieu-dit within Chaumée. It comprises of two distinct parcels exploited by three proprietors: Vincent & François Jouard, Paul Jouard, and Michel Niellon. On the cadastral map, parcels 108 and 107 correspond to Niellon, 31 and 32 to Paul Jouard, and 27 and 28 for V & F Jouard.

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"We took over the parcel in 1996 in a "fermage" agreement and acquired the vines in 2012.

"The soils are mostly light, and not very deep in the upper part, with hard and compact rock that sometimes surfaces.

"We don't know the exact age of the vines, the original archives having been lost, but the majority of the parcel must have been planted before anyone can remember, just after the First World War in around 1920. The upper part is a little more recent, without doubt planted around 1935!"

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#25 Post by dcornutt » March 19th, 2019, 8:00 am

Very few places you could get this detailed information. Glad they now own the parcels. Thanks so much William!
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#26 Post by joz€f p1nxten » March 19th, 2019, 9:03 am

That's some pretty detailed information (understatement)...thanks William!
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#27 Post by Joshua Kates » March 19th, 2019, 5:34 pm

Yes, thanks, great info; just need to know now where one can find the actual wine :)

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#28 Post by Charlie Gierling » March 20th, 2019, 3:11 am

Thank you!
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#29 Post by YLee » March 20th, 2019, 12:02 pm

Anyone know how the '16s are? Envoyer just offered them for $70.
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#30 Post by Troy Stark » March 20th, 2019, 2:31 pm

Charlie Gierling wrote:
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Any idea which part? https://weinlagen-info.de/#lage_id=2495
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#31 Post by Charlie Gierling » March 21st, 2019, 1:05 am

Troy Stark wrote:
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Charlie Gierling wrote:
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Any idea which part? https://weinlagen-info.de/#lage_id=2495
Whoa. That's awesome.
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#32 Post by William Kelley » March 21st, 2019, 8:46 am

YLee wrote:
March 20th, 2019, 12:02 pm
Anyone know how the '16s are? Envoyer just offered them for $70.
Good efforts in what was a very challenging vintage in Chassagne due to brutal frosts across almost all the appellation.

If you want a cracking 2016 white Burgundy look for Marc Colin's Saint-Aubin En Montceau.
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#33 Post by YLee » March 21st, 2019, 8:54 am

William Kelley wrote:
March 21st, 2019, 8:46 am
YLee wrote:
March 20th, 2019, 12:02 pm
Anyone know how the '16s are? Envoyer just offered them for $70.
Good efforts in what was a very challenging vintage in Chassagne due to brutal frosts across almost all the appellation.

If you want a cracking 2016 white Burgundy look for Marc Colin's Saint-Aubin En Montceau.
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#34 Post by William Kelley » March 30th, 2019, 11:36 am

As a post-script to this thread, I opened a bottle of the 2017 Niellon Clos Saint-Jean white yesterday, just out of curiosity, and it showed even better than when I tasted it six months ago - even more tensile and lively. So Niellon 2017s are warmly recommended when they arrive stateside.

Will be visiting the Clos de la Truffière on Monday and will try to take some photo.
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#35 Post by dcornutt » April 1st, 2019, 4:04 am

William. I really appreciate your input here. I haven't had a chance to really taste in Burgundy this past year. Thanks. I do love what they are doing at Niellon.
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#36 Post by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow » April 2nd, 2019, 8:50 am

FWIW, had a super, 2002 version of this wine over the weekend...Holding well...a little big, but otherwise a lovely example of a maturing WB devoid of Premox influences. I noted that a couple of earlier bottles were premoxed, and a couple not....

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#37 Post by William Kelley » April 21st, 2019, 10:21 am

To follow up on this, I finally visited to Clos de la Truffière last Friday with Michel... This is how the vineyard looked. Happily only a handful of buds lost to frost, fingers crossed it stays that way.

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#38 Post by dcornutt » April 21st, 2019, 2:34 pm

Excellent news!
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#39 Post by Jayson Cohen » April 21st, 2019, 2:44 pm

dcornutt wrote:
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Excellent news!
+ 1. And great pics William!

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#40 Post by Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow » April 21st, 2019, 3:46 pm

Any evidence of a wall or other enclosure??

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#41 Post by William Kelley » April 21st, 2019, 10:37 pm

Stuart BeauneHead Niemtzow wrote:
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Any evidence of a wall or other enclosure??
Surrounded by murgers on three sides with cliff to the rear... if you look more closely at the photos you will see the murgers.
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