Next of Kyn #9 Wood Box....WOW!!

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Next of Kyn #9 Wood Box....WOW!!

#1 Post by Gray G » March 14th, 2019, 7:48 am

The HUGE black wood box is the wildest I've ever seen for wine, anyone else?

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#2 Post by Brandon R » March 14th, 2019, 8:11 am

That's just crazy. I usually assume that type of packaging is needed to sell bad wine, but that doesn't seem to be the case here (I've never had a SQN, admittedly). Hasn't Krankl always used odd-shaped bottles? Seems consistent, I guess. Way, way over the top though, if you ask me.
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#3 Post by Anton D » March 14th, 2019, 8:20 am

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#4 Post by Jonathan Sirot » March 14th, 2019, 8:34 am

Brandon R wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 8:11 am
That's just crazy. I usually assume that type of packaging is needed to sell bad wine, but that doesn't seem to be the case here (I've never had a SQN, admittedly). Hasn't Krankl always used odd-shaped bottles? Seems consistent, I guess. Way, way over the top though, if you ask me.
Brandon you would be correct quite often as funny cute or really catchy or crude names catch peoples attention will and does sell cheap crappy wine. The average joe six when they do buy a bottle of wine will buy something simply because they find the label amusing or gros. My local wine group if we start a business and start selling our stuff already has a few names picked. Our first will be "One eyed orphan stepchild" and the next will called " Flattened roadkill juice. Might be too gross but will have to do some market research ! Sorry for my potty humor.

Manfred is a brilliant winemaker. He is also even a better marketer. The fact that he changes names of his wines every year AND makes incredibly creative labels shows his creativity as well his imagination and his dedication. Some feel his wines are too bold but who cares as tons of people love them.

As the Next Of Kyn is a totally different brand then SQN it gets numbered 1,2,3 ,4 ,5 ,6 etc so anyone can easily identify which year. He always markets them as a set with 1 mag and 2 750s. PLUS the monstrous box which I am sure Manfred had a blast creating. Yup its bold and over the top but it is his art and nobody except the ATF tells him what labels or packaging to use. He is also an incredibly imaginative writer as his newsletters ramble off in various directions on his feelings and philosophies. There is no newsletter I have ever seen as fun to read.

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#5 Post by Craig G » March 14th, 2019, 9:00 am

I don’t need the wine but I might get the box to store my ashes.
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#6 Post by J a y H a c k » March 14th, 2019, 9:09 am

Craig G wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 9:00 am
I don’t need the wine but I might get the box to store my ashes.
I just got a delivery of two of the boxes and that was my partner's comment - "looks like something you use to pack ashes from a crematorium."

The box is not new. I have the same one from last year. The only problem is that it is the all time 100% worst package to keep in a cellar.

It was shipped along with the SQN. I may open a bottle of the SQN Grenache tomorrow in honor of RBG's birthday, since Manfred always seems to associate Grenache with feminine wine.
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#7 Post by David Glasser » March 14th, 2019, 9:32 am

The boxes are beautiful but impractical for storage. I took the bottles out on receipt and stored the boxes separately until I found someone to give them to.

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#8 Post by Jim Brennan » March 14th, 2019, 9:45 am

How many points did the box get from Suckling?

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#9 Post by Anton D » March 14th, 2019, 9:48 am

Jim Brennan wrote:
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How many points did the box get from Suckling?
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#10 Post by Gray G » March 14th, 2019, 9:53 am

Craig G wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 9:00 am
I don’t need the wine but I might get the box to store my ashes.
+1, first thought
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#11 Post by Eric LeVine » March 14th, 2019, 11:11 am

The box has been the same since #1 was released EIGHT YEARS ago.
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#12 Post by mark rudner » March 14th, 2019, 12:39 pm

Eric LeVine wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 11:11 am
The box has been the same since #1 was released EIGHT YEARS ago.
thank you eric
i was wondering how much more grand the nok box could have gotten!

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#13 Post by Gray G » March 16th, 2019, 5:22 am

Eric LeVine wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 11:11 am
The box has been the same since #1 was released EIGHT YEARS ago.
even more crazy

very macabre FWIW
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#14 Post by Jim Brennan » March 16th, 2019, 5:31 am

Eric LeVine wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 11:11 am
The box has been the same since #1 was released EIGHT YEARS ago.
Eric can you offer some notes on how older vintages of the box are aging?

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#15 Post by Marc Hauser » March 16th, 2019, 7:13 am

Boxes are dead at retail.
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#16 Post by Eric LeVine » March 16th, 2019, 7:33 am

The box is dry and woody. It doesn't taste very good. I can't really find any vintage variation. The wine is freaking delicious though!
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#17 Post by Joe G a l e w s k i » March 16th, 2019, 7:44 am

As an engineer, I really have to scratch my head at the large rubber band stretched across the two dowels on both sides of the box. This is their solution?

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#18 Post by Gray G » March 16th, 2019, 7:55 am

Jim Brennan wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 5:31 am
Eric LeVine wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 11:11 am
The box has been the same since #1 was released EIGHT YEARS ago.
Eric can you offer some notes on how older vintages of the box are aging?
hahaha

what do you do with those boxes during the aging?
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#19 Post by Jim Brennan » March 16th, 2019, 11:21 am

Eric LeVine wrote:
March 16th, 2019, 7:33 am
The box is dry and woody. It doesn't taste very good. I can't really find any vintage variation.
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#20 Post by John Morris » March 16th, 2019, 1:33 pm

Lisa Perrotti-Brown loves it. The wine that is. She didn't rate the box.
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#21 Post by Jonathan Sirot » March 16th, 2019, 2:01 pm

Sorry to be a counterpoint to the justified reaction of this gaudy over the top box that when delivered to me the other day was so huge it could fit a flat screen TV. If I was looking for a box to hang on the wall on hold stuff would be great but feel sad thst some trees were cut down for something so frivolous . I.like Manfreds wines and have bought their stuff from SQN to NOK and Third Twin . But cutting down trees to make art that will be discarded is not very nice to MOTHER nature !

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#22 Post by Eric Ifune » March 16th, 2019, 3:42 pm

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Wood aged Port, average age 102 years old. Fabulous stuff. Cedar and cork box.
Quinta do Mourao, the producer, has a large stock of old wood aged Ports. They also recently released a 90 year old White Port in a similar box which is also stupendous.

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#23 Post by Jeff D a v i e s » March 17th, 2019, 7:30 am

Just got my first offer delivered and was surprised by the box... the paint/stain seemed fresh so I took the wine out and left the box out of the cellar - not sure I want that stuff de-gassing around my wine (had the same concern with the Rhys Hillside boxes). As wine nut/collector they are kind of cool, but if optional I would opt out of the boxes.

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#24 Post by Gray G » March 17th, 2019, 12:13 pm

Jeff D a v i e s wrote:
March 17th, 2019, 7:30 am
As wine nut/collector they are kind of cool, but if optional I would opt out of the boxes.
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#25 Post by markjchambers » May 25th, 2019, 1:50 pm

Definitely a fun thread, but what about the wines? I waited a long time to get on the NOK list. I have #8 and #9 sitting in the cellar, haven't even opened the boxes as I figured it was far too early. Now I'm looking at the offer for #10 and wondering if it's luxury I can afford in my old age. I'll never drop SQN, but I wonder if NOK gives me something that I'm not already getting with SQN. I searched for a tasting thread and couldn't find anything.

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#26 Post by Eric LeVine » May 25th, 2019, 3:40 pm

The wines are very reminiscent of SQN. Maybe a tiny bit less polished and bit more complex and wild. If you enjoy SQN, then you will probably enjoy NOK equally,
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#27 Post by M.Kaplan » May 25th, 2019, 4:12 pm

A group of us drank all 9 NoKs last month. The first release was the only one to show any evolution at all; the remainder were all pretty much indistinguishable from each other and very primary.
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