Greatest Expressions of Sangiovese?

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Pat Martin
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Re: Greatest Expressions of Sangiovese?

#51 Post by Pat Martin » March 13th, 2019, 10:48 am

Several bottles in recent years of the 95 Lisini Brunello Ugolaia were epic. The 99 Lisini Brunello normale is also quite good. More recent incarnations of Lisini, however, are in a different style it seems — more modern, less to my liking.
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#52 Post by Jay Miller » March 13th, 2019, 11:19 am

Troy Stark wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 10:25 am
It's interesting to read about people's preferences in this thread. My wife and I have tried many different vintages of Valdicava. Just doesn't do anything for us. Too modern and oaky for our palates.
Ditto. Someone generously brought one to the Heritage tasting. I didn't dump it as quickly as the SQN or the Pavie but I didn't drink much.
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Re: Greatest Expressions of Sangiovese?

#53 Post by Troy Stark » March 13th, 2019, 11:23 am

Jay Miller wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 11:19 am
Ditto. Someone generously brought one to the Heritage tasting. I didn't dump it as quickly as the SQN or the Pavie but I didn't drink much.
SQN - ugh. Another producer I've tried on numerous occasions and never enjoyed. Every time I try it my base emotion is confusion; Why do people like this? Is my palate broken? Could a winemaker really believe this is varietally correct? How is it possible there's a 10 year waiting list for these wines?

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#54 Post by Tim Heaton » March 13th, 2019, 2:07 pm

Pat Martin wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 10:45 am
Troy Stark wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 10:25 am
It's interesting to read about people's preferences in this thread. My wife and I have tried many different vintages of Valdicava. Just doesn't do anything for us. Too modern and oaky for our palates.
+1. Though the 2001 was surprisingly good.
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Re: Greatest Expressions of Sangiovese?

#55 Post by Mattstolz » March 13th, 2019, 6:21 pm

Tim Heaton wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 2:07 pm
Pat Martin wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 10:45 am
Troy Stark wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 10:25 am
It's interesting to read about people's preferences in this thread. My wife and I have tried many different vintages of Valdicava. Just doesn't do anything for us. Too modern and oaky for our palates.
+1. Though the 2001 was surprisingly good.
Patrick, I have 2 left from release, let's drink; back mid May. In Alsace tonight, Dusseldorf tomorrow. a presto
had a 2000 recently that I also thought was very good. I haven't ever had a younger version though to speak to the oak before it has a chance to incorporate

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Re: Greatest Expressions of Sangiovese?

#56 Post by Joongul Lee » March 14th, 2019, 2:47 pm

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Re: Greatest Expressions of Sangiovese?

#57 Post by Jeff Bloom » March 14th, 2019, 7:06 pm

I love Sangiovese (I have a cat named Brunello) and I buy a lot of those mentioned already regularly. I would normally say Flaccianello is the epitome of consistent excellence for me, with Rancia probably the next in line. Soldera, as others have said, is in a class by itself but it really doesn't do it for me.

I attended a vertical of Biondi-Santi Riservas last year, though, and it was a wow moment. My budget doesn't allow for regular purchases but, damn, they were definitely a step above.

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Re: Greatest Expressions of Sangiovese?

#58 Post by Pat Martin » March 14th, 2019, 8:37 pm

Tim Heaton wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 2:07 pm
Pat Martin wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 10:45 am
Troy Stark wrote:
March 13th, 2019, 10:25 am
It's interesting to read about people's preferences in this thread. My wife and I have tried many different vintages of Valdicava. Just doesn't do anything for us. Too modern and oaky for our palates.
+1. Though the 2001 was surprisingly good.
Patrick, I have 2 left from release, let's drink; back mid May. In Alsace tonight, Dusseldorf tomorrow. a presto
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Re: Greatest Expressions of Sangiovese?

#59 Post by Markus S » March 15th, 2019, 6:42 am

Jeff Bloom wrote:
March 14th, 2019, 7:06 pm
... Biondi-Santi Riservas ....and it was a wow moment. My budget doesn't allow for regular purchases but, damn, they were definitely a step above.
I didn't need to hear this. [swoon.gif]
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