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#151 Post by Gray G » March 25th, 2020, 4:38 pm

fun to chat about for sure

it's like a blind date with your sexy girlfriend's daughter

could be worse but JB had these @ 98

will wait a bit on these

my box has a 283 written in sharpie on it, thank you Nikolas and Julia, prayers

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#152 Post by R. Gaston » March 25th, 2020, 5:33 pm

Robert M yers wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 4:31 pm
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oh really? good, but not up to the hype or just bad...?
About 10 of my friends went to the tasting at the Ojai Valley Inn a while back. They are huge fans of Saxum and SQN and own a ton of each. They enjoyed the white but were confused with the reds. None of them liked the reds and that was the verdict of all 10 people. Now, I wouldn't say they are the most experienced tasters so that's why I am interested in other's opinions here on Berserkers.
I’m not at all dismissing your experience, and I would have popped one if I had been able to order quick enough. I’m finding it hard to imagine Manfred wouldnt challenge his son to not release a wine that wasn’t at least competitive in its price range?

What didn’t they like?
You can dismiss it as I was not there and have no opinion. Could be amazing juice. I was just surprised my friends didn’t like it since they love the SQN style. Again, I am interested to hear thoughts from some of you who are more experienced tasters.
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#153 Post by Adam Frisch » March 25th, 2020, 5:34 pm

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#154 Post by MBerto » March 25th, 2020, 6:38 pm

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#155 Post by Gray G » March 26th, 2020, 7:11 am

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#156 Post by larry schaffer » March 26th, 2020, 9:03 am

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I’m not at all dismissing your experience, and I would have popped one if I had been able to order quick enough. I’m finding it hard to imagine Manfred wouldnt challenge his son to not release a wine that wasn’t at least competitive in its price range?

What didn’t they like?
Another interesting comment indeed. How do you define 'competitive'? Similar to SQN? Or something else?

Wondering if others might have been at that dinner - or if they've had a chance to taste out of barrel, etc - to get a better feel for these wines. I'm sure expectations are quite high for those of you who purchased - and for the rest of us, we are simply curious. So many wines out there these days . . .

Hoping to see more comments once folks start popping these - 650 of these in CT now with only 2 notes . . .

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#157 Post by Robert M yers » March 26th, 2020, 10:45 am

The price is aggressive for a first release, so I think it’s fair to assume that they were banking on the family name lending some baseline of quality. I don’t know If we know how much Manfred was involved, if at all, but would anybody pay the price if we flat out knew he wasn’t? Probably not. Even Lillian didn’t start out this aggressively priced.

Competitive in quality to what else you can get for the price in the region. I wouldn’t be expecting SQN, but it better be fairly special for the asking price. If it wasn’t I’d think his father would be upfront and tell him that you can’t charge that kind of price right out of the gate. Admittedly I’m making assumptions here though.

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#158 Post by Mtolerico » March 26th, 2020, 5:14 pm

I loved the Grenache, but it is not in the SQN style. It to me was a combo of new world/cdp blend, lighter on the body but intense flavor that was in perfect balance. I probably won't open the Syrah for a year or two given Jeb's note, but my guess is it will also not align to a copy-cat SQN profile.

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#159 Post by Peter Petersen » March 26th, 2020, 5:40 pm

Antonio Galloni specifically said that these wines are not in the style of SQN, definitely a little more civilized. From what I can tell the grapes do come the same sources as SQN, but I don't know if they are picked at the same time or if the differences are only in the cellar management.
Looking forward to trying them, but I'm not popping one just for myself, so it'll have to wait.

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#160 Post by Robert M yers » March 26th, 2020, 9:11 pm

Mtolerico wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 5:14 pm
I loved the Grenache, but it is not in the SQN style. It to me was a combo of new world/cdp blend, lighter on the body but intense flavor that was in perfect balance. I probably won't open the Syrah for a year or two given Jeb's note, but my guess is it will also not align to a copy-cat SQN profile.
Interesting...more red fruited would you say?

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#161 Post by Mtolerico » March 27th, 2020, 6:34 am

Robert M yers wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:11 pm
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I loved the Grenache, but it is not in the SQN style. It to me was a combo of new world/cdp blend, lighter on the body but intense flavor that was in perfect balance. I probably won't open the Syrah for a year or two given Jeb's note, but my guess is it will also not align to a copy-cat SQN profile.
Interesting...more red fruited would you say?
Yes, red fruit dominant, violets, earthy (not funky), also some ham/bacon component so the Syrah is coming through as well, at least on the nose.

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#162 Post by Peter Petersen » March 27th, 2020, 8:08 am

Mtolerico wrote:
March 27th, 2020, 6:34 am
Robert M yers wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 9:11 pm
Mtolerico wrote:
March 26th, 2020, 5:14 pm
I loved the Grenache, but it is not in the SQN style. It to me was a combo of new world/cdp blend, lighter on the body but intense flavor that was in perfect balance. I probably won't open the Syrah for a year or two given Jeb's note, but my guess is it will also not align to a copy-cat SQN profile.
Interesting...more red fruited would you say?
Yes, red fruit dominant, violets, earthy (not funky), also some ham/bacon component so the Syrah is coming through as well, at least on the nose.
That sounds very promising. Thanks for taking one for the team.

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#163 Post by Jake Rubash » March 27th, 2020, 1:56 pm

Giving the Syrah a go tomorrow vs a Tynan, will report back

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#164 Post by ykwon » March 27th, 2020, 3:02 pm

Jake Rubash wrote:
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Giving the Syrah a go tomorrow vs a Tynan, will report back
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#165 Post by MikeL238 » March 27th, 2020, 3:03 pm

Jake Rubash wrote:
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Giving the Syrah a go tomorrow vs a Tynan, will report back
Looking forward to it!
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#166 Post by Jake Rubash » March 28th, 2020, 8:57 pm

Ok, ok we did the showdown. 2015 Tynan Syrah vs 2017 Faethm Syrah

Tynan:
4hr decant. N. Rhône in style, fresh minerality, gamey and bright red fruit. Everything in balance and nicely integrated. This is built to last but is delicious now with a decently long decant. 95 pts if a score is needed.

Faethm:
4hr double decant, along with a 1hr decant after going back in bottle. I would put this squarely in the Andremily camp for style. Meaty but with loads of dark fruit and impeccably balanced. I suspect this will age well but I think drinking in the next few years with a decant will be my preference. 93 pts if a score is needed.

In this particular showdown the Tynan came out on top. There is a clear advantage with the 2 additional years of bottle time so I don’t know if this outcome will always be the case.

For those of you sitting on your Faethm allocations: I would suggest waiting a year or so and giving a solid decant before trying, I suspect there is more hiding here than we were unable to uncover at the current time. I will continue to be a buyer of the Faethm label going forward based on this experience; for an inaugural release this was exceptional.

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#167 Post by Peter Petersen » March 29th, 2020, 9:46 am

Jake, Thanks for the note. I’d say that your description sounds promising.

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#168 Post by markjchambers » March 29th, 2020, 3:20 pm

I'm happy with Andremily (and SQN) so I passed on Faethm. It would be nice if they did grenache, but their syrah is the best QPR in the SQN family.

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#169 Post by Mike C. » July 6th, 2020, 10:44 am

2018 letter out today. Name change to Fingers Crossed for trademark reasons.
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#170 Post by B. Buzzini » July 6th, 2020, 11:01 am

Mike C. wrote:
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2018 letter out today. Name change to Fingers Crossed for trademark reasons.
what was the name before?
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#171 Post by Michael Fess » July 6th, 2020, 11:02 am

Faethm.

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#172 Post by B. Buzzini » July 6th, 2020, 11:03 am

Oh I see now...the FAETHM winery name...is now FINGERS CROSSED.
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#173 Post by adam landa » July 6th, 2020, 11:14 am

From the last release, does anyone know which color tissue label was the Syrah and which was the Grenache?

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#174 Post by Steve Crawford » July 6th, 2020, 11:23 am

Blue was grenache I think, black was syrah. Just my best guess.
Looking forward to the release.

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#175 Post by Peter Petersen » July 6th, 2020, 6:31 pm

Haven’t tried them yet. Is Grenache the one to test drive now?

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#176 Post by Frank Z » July 13th, 2020, 9:29 pm

Just received the "VIP access letter" in the mail. 2018 vintage offer begins this Friday in 5-bottle sets (2 Grenache, 2 Syrah, 1 White Wine)!
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#177 Post by R. Mayes » July 13th, 2020, 10:05 pm

Got the save the date today as well.

Any idea what the release will be?
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#178 Post by Frank Z » July 13th, 2020, 10:12 pm

R. Mayes wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 10:05 pm
Got the save the date today as well.

Any idea what the release will be?
The release notes for each wine, along with Dunnuck’s scoring are listed in the 4 page release letter.
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#179 Post by Mike C. » July 13th, 2020, 10:21 pm

Frank Z wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 10:12 pm
The release notes for each wine, along with Dunnuck’s scoring are listed in the 4 page release letter.
What were the scores? Letter hasn’t made its way here yet.
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#180 Post by R. Mayes » July 13th, 2020, 11:17 pm

Frank Z wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 10:12 pm
R. Mayes wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 10:05 pm
Got the save the date today as well.

Any idea what the release will be?
The release notes for each wine, along with Dunnuck’s scoring are listed in the 4 page release letter.
Whoops, meant to say “release price.”
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#181 Post by Frank Z » July 14th, 2020, 7:54 am

Mike C. wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 10:21 pm
Frank Z wrote:
July 13th, 2020, 10:12 pm
The release notes for each wine, along with Dunnuck’s scoring are listed in the 4 page release letter.
What were the scores? Letter hasn’t made its way here yet.
The Grenache was (96-99), and the Syrah was (95-97+). I don't think the White was rated.
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#182 Post by Peter Petersen » July 15th, 2020, 7:28 am

Letter came yesterday, but after trying the Grenache I'm not excited to buy. Way too reduced for my tastes and for me it never really blew of, even after several hours.

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#183 Post by Steve Crawford » July 15th, 2020, 11:20 am

Im a self professed Fingers Crossed homer, but I’m not sure what you expected. Stylistically it’s intended to be rich and extracted, and at 3 years old, relatively reductive. If it wasn’t, how would it last for a decade plus? It can’t be both.
Other wines are similar and I don’t go near them for 6-8+ years.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but hoping something is different than what the maker made it to be is a little goofy

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#184 Post by David Baum » July 15th, 2020, 11:45 am

So many allocations pouring in these days Im wavering but leaning toward yes

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#185 Post by Joe Abruzzo » July 17th, 2020, 7:30 am

I got the letter for a 5 pack, but I don't see pricing? I think last year was @ $500 for 4 pack. In any case, if anyone is interested in (sharing or full) allocation PM me.

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#186 Post by larry schaffer » July 17th, 2020, 8:35 am

Steve Crawford wrote:
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Im a self professed Fingers Crossed homer, but I’m not sure what you expected. Stylistically it’s intended to be rich and extracted, and at 3 years old, relatively reductive. If it wasn’t, how would it last for a decade plus? It can’t be both.
Other wines are similar and I don’t go near them for 6-8+ years.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion but hoping something is different than what the maker made it to be is a little goofy
Great points, but one would expect that after hours and hours, that reductiveness would blow off. It certainly does with the Alban wines, which sound like they have some similar characteristics.

And are these wines meant to age for decades? Are SQN wines meant to? I'm just curious as to 'expectations' and where these come from / how conclusions are made?

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#187 Post by David Baum » July 17th, 2020, 9:03 am

Release out pricing the same at $559 for 5 pk. Last year it was $480 for the 4 pk of syrah and grenache. The white was $79 but first come first served limited.

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#188 Post by ykwon » July 17th, 2020, 9:05 am

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#189 Post by Rajesh P a r i k h » July 17th, 2020, 9:13 am

The $70 shipping made me pause and give it a few days

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#190 Post by MBerto » July 17th, 2020, 9:18 am

Currently 2 bottles of 2017 Faethm reds on winebid at $285 each, but no bids.
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#191 Post by David Baum » July 17th, 2020, 9:37 am

MBerto wrote:
July 17th, 2020, 9:18 am
Currently 2 bottles of 2017 Faethm reds on winebid at $285 each, but no bids.
And W-S low is $350. Just silly numbers. I'll probably pop open the rose from last year soon

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#192 Post by Anton D » July 17th, 2020, 10:49 am

David Baum wrote:
July 17th, 2020, 9:37 am
MBerto wrote:
July 17th, 2020, 9:18 am
Currently 2 bottles of 2017 Faethm reds on winebid at $285 each, but no bids.
And W-S low is $350. Just silly numbers. I'll probably pop open the rose from last year soon
Let us know what you think, I am very curious.
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#193 Post by MBerto » July 17th, 2020, 11:26 am

Probably is I can't drink em - A) If they're really going for that much I gotta think about flipping B) Since they changed the name, I've now got a real collectors items - first edition, "old name", full boxed set. Gotta keep the full set together. Maybe I can coravin a tasting poor and sell it as "high shoulder fill".
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#194 Post by C Wagner » July 17th, 2020, 12:45 pm

I bit.

I don’t normally go in on things like these without tasting but I figured “what the hell, it’s only money.” [berserker.gif]
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#195 Post by Eric White » July 23rd, 2020, 6:13 pm

After much hand wringing, I finally decided to pass on this offer. I may end up regretting it, but I've already got SQN and Andremily, and after going heavy with the Rivers-Marie Cab offer I just couldn't squeeze this one in.

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#196 Post by David Baum » July 23rd, 2020, 10:45 pm

Had a big deal floundering that caused me to waiver. Put it together yesterday. Order in this morning.

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#197 Post by Steve Crawford » July 24th, 2020, 2:12 am

the 112 tax/shipping is a little obnoxious at this point when i can get 6 bottles of alban shipped for $30 (and no tax).
if this doesn't change next year there's a good chance i pass. owc is nice for those who want it but making it mandatory is goofy. and same goes for forced 2 day shipping.

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#198 Post by Howard Cooper » July 24th, 2020, 4:15 am

MBerto wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 6:38 pm
Gray G wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 4:38 pm

it's like a blind date with your sexy girlfriend's daughter
I'm sorry it's like what now?
This reads like Jeffrey Epstein was posting here under a fake name.
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#199 Post by Gray G » July 24th, 2020, 5:58 am

Howard Cooper wrote:
July 24th, 2020, 4:15 am
MBerto wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 6:38 pm
Gray G wrote:
March 25th, 2020, 4:38 pm

it's like a blind date with your sexy girlfriend's daughter
I'm sorry it's like what now?
This reads like Jeffrey Epstein was posting here under a fake name.
celebrity obsession is so boring LOL

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#200 Post by Curtis Chen » July 24th, 2020, 12:06 pm

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