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#1 Post by D. HEIN » February 14th, 2019, 12:47 pm

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#2 Post by Jay Miller » February 14th, 2019, 1:03 pm

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#3 Post by Craig G » February 14th, 2019, 1:55 pm

I haven’t had the 86 but the 85 and 88 were very good several years ago. I had the 90 once and found it pretty ugly (roasted and somewhat volatile) though I’m not certain it was a well stored bottle.
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#4 Post by Brian King » February 14th, 2019, 2:05 pm

I've had a bunch of 1986 St. Emilion wines over the years, and haven't been particularly impressed. That said I haven't had THIS one.

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#5 Post by R. Frankel » February 14th, 2019, 4:53 pm

I think it could be worth a bid, if you like rustic aged old school right bankers.

Winebid is a real melange of stuff, some attractive (eg. those 1989 Gruaud Larose are tempting me) but mostly their prices seem a bit high.

Then there are oddballs like

https://www.winebid.com/BuyWine/Item/69 ... De-Ferrand

Never heard of this producer, but $25 a bottle? Anyone know Ferrand?
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#6 Post by Marcus Dean » February 14th, 2019, 5:18 pm

Craig G wrote:
February 14th, 2019, 1:55 pm
I haven’t had the 86 but the 85 and 88 were very good several years ago. I had the 90 once and found it pretty ugly (roasted and somewhat volatile) though I’m not certain it was a well stored bottle.
That is the 1990 in a nutshell, impressive in its own fashion and drinkable if you like the style, I opened one about a year ago and it looked a bit overripe and simple next to the other 90s on the table

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#7 Post by James Billy » February 14th, 2019, 7:04 pm

If you are thinking of buying on auction and then flag the wine on here you are at risk of adding to the competition for it!

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#8 Post by James Billy » February 14th, 2019, 7:05 pm

Better to just ask for opinions on the wine and not tell people that it's at auction.

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#9 Post by Brian Tuite » February 14th, 2019, 9:59 pm

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#10 Post by John Morris » February 14th, 2019, 10:02 pm

R. Frankel wrote:
February 14th, 2019, 4:53 pm
I think it could be worth a bid, if you like rustic aged old school right bankers.

Winebid is a real melange of stuff, some attractive (eg. those 1989 Gruaud Larose are tempting me) but mostly their prices seem a bit high.

Then there are oddballs like

https://www.winebid.com/BuyWine/Item/69 ... De-Ferrand

Never heard of this producer, but $25 a bottle? Anyone know Ferrand?
Ah... you bring back memories of the '82 Ferrand, which was silly cheap and sooooo good. Not sure when I last had one or saw one. But at $25, I'd chance it.
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#11 Post by Gerhard P. » February 15th, 2019, 5:44 am

The 1986 Tertre-Roteboeuf is a very good wine, made more traditionally than 1988/89/90, but also slightly lacking a bit in sweetness and length, qualities that the later vintages indeed show, but in a more modern oak-influenced way, nevertheless high class. The 1990 is very fine, and I´ve still got a dozen halfes. 1986 on the other hand wasn´t as great in St.Emilion as on the left bank.

The same can be said about 1996 ... less good on right bank than on left ... generally.
While I haven´t had the Ferrrand 1996 I´ve had some older ones (1985/89/94 ...) and while it´s usually a good wine (might be worth 25-30 bucks) it never excited me ... solid, enjoyable on a lower level, but there are many similar ...
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#12 Post by Greg D » February 15th, 2019, 7:54 am

James Billy wrote:
February 14th, 2019, 7:04 pm
If you are thinking of buying on auction and then flag the wine on here you are at risk of adding to the competition for it!
But if you are the seller of the lot, "innocently" flagging the wine here might be a great idea...
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#13 Post by Jim Hanlon » February 15th, 2019, 2:09 pm

Greg D wrote:
February 15th, 2019, 7:54 am
James Billy wrote:
February 14th, 2019, 7:04 pm
If you are thinking of buying on auction and then flag the wine on here you are at risk of adding to the competition for it!
But if you are the seller of the lot, "innocently" flagging the wine here might be a great idea...
Perhaps the question was a joke. The condition on this bottle is beyond troubling and I wouldn't touch it, even were it a wine I'd quite like to cellar.

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#14 Post by James Billy » February 15th, 2019, 6:21 pm

Greg D wrote:
February 15th, 2019, 7:54 am
James Billy wrote:
February 14th, 2019, 7:04 pm
If you are thinking of buying on auction and then flag the wine on here you are at risk of adding to the competition for it!
But if you are the seller of the lot, "innocently" flagging the wine here might be a great idea...
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#15 Post by Dale Williams » February 15th, 2019, 6:56 pm

Jim Hanlon wrote:
February 15th, 2019, 2:09 pm
Perhaps the question was a joke. The condition on this bottle is beyond troubling and I wouldn't touch it, even were it a wine I'd quite like to cellar.
I wouldn't bid on this, because I don't like Tertre Roteboeuf. Strange label condition. I tend to bid fairly high on damp stained labels and good fills. That's a funky label, but for me would be a slight caution, not a no bid (if you wanted the wine)

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#16 Post by Claus Jeppesen » February 16th, 2019, 12:41 am

newhere I thought it was about a Versteigerungswein newhere
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#17 Post by William Kelley » February 16th, 2019, 7:24 am

This is quite an early Mitjaville wine, and only the second vintage of TR to see any new oak. Could definitely be worth a look. The 1985 has certainly aged quite elegantly.
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