Aligoté in the warmer years

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Aligoté in the warmer years

#1 Post by Jeremy Holmes » February 9th, 2019, 5:23 pm

One of the value propositions, for mine, is Aligoté in the warmer years. 2015 suits the variety perfectly. You get extra dimension and richness, whilst maintaining strict posture and freshness. A Ramonet '15 Bouzeron was splendid during the week, completely over-shadowing the Bourgogne Chardonnay. de Villaine's '15 Bouzeron is a lovely drink. Benoit Ente's '15 Aligoté is seriously good and we have hooked through quite a bit of Lucien-Jacob, Domaine du Cerberon and Jean Fournier '15's at home of late (these three producers we direct import).
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Re: Aligoté in the warmer years

#2 Post by Ethan Abraham » February 9th, 2019, 5:26 pm

Loved bachelet's 15.

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#3 Post by Marcus Dean » February 9th, 2019, 5:31 pm

yup, great value for sure

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#4 Post by Markus S » February 9th, 2019, 5:57 pm

Meh, you'll have to convince me. The couple times I had an aligote was like a freekin acid trip on steroids.
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#5 Post by ky1em!ttskus » February 9th, 2019, 8:48 pm

Markus S wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 5:57 pm
Meh, you'll have to convince me. The couple times I had an aligote was like a freekin acid trip on steroids.
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#6 Post by John Morris » February 9th, 2019, 9:35 pm

Makes total sense. Sounds like barbera, a high-acid wine I like best in warmish years like '13 and '15.
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Re: Aligoté in the warmer years

#7 Post by Craig G » February 9th, 2019, 10:47 pm

Any comments on Audoin’s Aligoté? I love the De Villaine Bouzeron but it’s up to $38 locally (2016). The Audoin is $20 (2017). Supposedly from very old Marsannay vines.
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#8 Post by William Kelley » February 10th, 2019, 5:00 am

Craig G wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 10:47 pm
Any comments on Audoin’s Aligoté? I love the De Villaine Bouzeron but it’s up to $38 locally (2016). The Audoin is $20 (2017). Supposedly from very old Marsannay vines.
It's a nice wine, but the fireworks chez Audoin for whites really begin with the white Marsannay bottlings.

Agree that the Ramonet example is excellent!

'15 is also a strong year for Lafarge's Raisins d'Orées.

It is nice to see a bit more aspiration with Aligoté in Burgundy. Often the wine's low prestige has seen it over-cropped, picked prematurely and fermented and raised in steel, with rapid bottling after sterile filtration, resulting in a vicious cycle. When it is treated like fine Chardonnay, it gives much more interesting results.
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Re: Aligoté in the warmer years

#9 Post by Jeremy C » February 10th, 2019, 5:16 am

How would such vintages impact its ability to age?
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Re: Aligoté in the warmer years

#10 Post by John Morris » February 10th, 2019, 6:52 am

William Kelley wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 5:00 am
It is nice to see a bit more aspiration with Aligoté in Burgundy. Often the wine's low prestige has seen it over-cropped, picked prematurely and fermented and raised in steel, with rapid bottling after sterile filtration, resulting in a vicious cycle. When it is treated like fine Chardonnay, it gives much more interesting results.
Does it benefit from time in wood? Does Villaine use wood?
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Re: Aligoté in the warmer years

#11 Post by William Kelley » February 10th, 2019, 6:54 am

John Morris wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 6:52 am
William Kelley wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 5:00 am
It is nice to see a bit more aspiration with Aligoté in Burgundy. Often the wine's low prestige has seen it over-cropped, picked prematurely and fermented and raised in steel, with rapid bottling after sterile filtration, resulting in a vicious cycle. When it is treated like fine Chardonnay, it gives much more interesting results.
Does it benefit from time in wood? Does Villaine use wood?
Yes, de Villaine uses foudres, Ramonet and Lafarge use used barrels. So does d'Auvenay, needless to say.

Since it is a high acid white, my sense is that it benefits from extended lees contact.
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Re: Aligoté in the warmer years

#12 Post by m. ristev » February 10th, 2019, 7:29 am

pataille's single parcel aligotes are fantastic and see some extended time on the lees. not sure the 15s have been released yet, but i am sure they will be great.
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