2016 or 2010 Domaine Armand Rousseau Pere et Fils Clos de la Roche Grand Cru

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2016 or 2010 Domaine Armand Rousseau Pere et Fils Clos de la Roche Grand Cru

#1 Post by YLee » February 8th, 2019, 8:14 pm

If prices are the same which would you take?
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#2 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » February 8th, 2019, 8:31 pm

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#3 Post by p. raghib » February 8th, 2019, 8:35 pm

2016. Better vintage, better tension, better balance, better energy. Less of it.
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#4 Post by alan weinberg » February 8th, 2019, 8:55 pm

10. Six years closer to drinkability.

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#5 Post by PCLIN » February 8th, 2019, 11:29 pm

‘99....just kidding.

I would buy the ‘10.
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#6 Post by Nowell Karten » February 9th, 2019, 2:05 am

10. It's a better vintage, overall, and even if Rousseau's 2016 Roche is equal in quality to his 2010 Roche, the 2010 will be ready to drink sooner.
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#7 Post by William Kelley » February 9th, 2019, 4:55 am

2010.
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#8 Post by davidsturek » February 9th, 2019, 6:25 am

Provenance the same...2010

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#9 Post by Andrew Hamilton » February 9th, 2019, 5:37 pm

Unless I was going to drink it today I'd buy 2010.

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#10 Post by Mich@el Ch@ng » February 9th, 2019, 6:01 pm

Andrew Hamilton wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 5:37 pm
Unless I was going to drink it today I'd buy 2010.
Pobega-ing Rousseau? Next level.

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#11 Post by Andrew Hamilton » February 9th, 2019, 7:29 pm

Mich@el Ch@ng wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 6:01 pm
Andrew Hamilton wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 5:37 pm
Unless I was going to drink it today I'd buy 2010.
Pobega-ing Rousseau? Next level.
Fair enough. My expectation is that the '10 would be shut down somewhat despite Rousseau's reputation for being fairly accessible wines when young. So today the '16 could be better in glass. I'd be hard pressed to open the one '10 I have to provide a data point to support my comments though. :D

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#12 Post by craig v » February 10th, 2019, 7:58 am

I can't remember a vintage that has turned out better than 2010 for red Burgundy but I've only been buying red Burgs since the 1999 vintage. I'm still eager to backfill 2010s if from a producer I love and not overpriced.
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#13 Post by YLee » February 10th, 2019, 8:07 am

craig v wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 7:58 am
I can't remember a vintage that has turned out better than 2010 for red Burgundy but I've only been buying red Burgs since the 1999 vintage. I'm still eager to backfill 2010s if from a producer I love and not overpriced.
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Which producer did you love from the '10 vintage?
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#14 Post by craig v » February 10th, 2019, 8:50 am

Certainly the village Rousseau, which is the only Rousseau I could still afford at the time. I also bought some 12 & 14 Rousseau village but nothing from them since. Rousseau is my hands down favorite red Burg producer. I'm just completely priced out now. I also bought 10s from Gaunoux, J&L Trapet, Rossignol Trapet, Tortochot, Chevillon, Montille, Mugnier,Dubreuil-Fontaine and others. I'm completely smitten with 2010. But, I'm also 63 so will buying very, very few 16s and onward.
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February 10th, 2019, 8:07 am
craig v wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 7:58 am
I can't remember a vintage that has turned out better than 2010 for red Burgundy but I've only been buying red Burgs since the 1999 vintage. I'm still eager to backfill 2010s if from a producer I love and not overpriced.
Craig,

Which producer did you love from the '10 vintage?
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