Have your best wine experiences been with white or red?

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Have you had more memorable wine experiences with red or white?

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Have your best wine experiences been with white or red?

#1 Post by Alan Rath » February 8th, 2019, 2:56 pm

Another thread raised the question of which type of wine, red or white, is more likely to provide the most memorable wine experience. While I've had some amazing and memorable wines of both types, I think I've had more with white wines than with reds. I'm tempted to say that the highest highs are reds, but there is a much greater likelihood of a white wine reaching the "memorable" threshold than a red.

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#2 Post by Justin S » February 8th, 2019, 3:17 pm

Red for now, but I think my incorrect biases and purchasing habits have led to this result more than anything.

My cellar is about 70% red, but lately, my consumption is more like 50/50. White wines go with a lot of food better than reds. This means that I am drinking a lot of young whites and not aging my sparkling too long (other than some of the higher end champagne bottles). For some reason when I started collecting wine, I had a hard time spending more than I do for whites. $60 bottle of red? No problem. But the same price or more for a white would give me serious pause. Trying some grand cru white burgundy changed my perspective. Plus I love champagne.

Over time I think the number of memorable white wine experiences will catch up, but right now they are not as numerous.
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#3 Post by Vuk K » February 8th, 2019, 3:39 pm

Alan Rath wrote:
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Another thread raised the question of which type of wine, red or white, is more likely to provide the most memorable wine experience. While I've had some amazing and memorable wines of both types, I think I've had more with white wines than with reds. I'm tempted to say that the highest highs are reds, but there is a much greater likelihood of a white wine reaching the "memorable" threshold than a red.
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#4 Post by Bdklein » February 8th, 2019, 4:28 pm

My best wine experience included red and white . Someone spilled red wine all over a brand new carpet at our house and blotting with white wine got rid of all the red wine.
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#5 Post by Kris Patten » February 8th, 2019, 4:37 pm

Sparkling. I find a profound white better than a profound red in the case of this question.
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#6 Post by Rich K0rz€nk0 » February 8th, 2019, 4:52 pm

I've had unbelievable well-aged expression on both sides of that fence. I get more excited out of the whites I've had for the nuance they developed.
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#7 Post by alan weinberg » February 8th, 2019, 5:51 pm

Rich K0rz€nk0 wrote:
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I've had unbelievable well-aged expression on both sides of that fence. I get more excited out of the whites I've had for the nuance they developed.
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#8 Post by J. Trombley » February 8th, 2019, 6:52 pm

I quickly voted red on this poll. Almost instantly recalling so many of the memorable nights I’ve shared with great friends over many bottles of red.

Then I paused to reflect and the really memorable wines have actually been whites. Aged white Burgundy and Riesling, specifically.

So I guess it depends on how we’re defining memorable.
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#9 Post by Mark Golodetz » February 8th, 2019, 7:09 pm

The other thread is the gmax one. Great as the 2006 was, it did not have an emotional dimension that I have had with the greatest reds, and only once with a white. That was also a Riesling, a Robert Weil Kiedrich Graffenberg 1923 beerenauslese eiswein. I can still taste that incredibly complexity which started with orange, malt, dried white peaches and a touch of petrol, and a finish so delicate but intense and layered. Never tasted anything like that amount of soul in a white before or since, although probably around thirty times in a red.
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#10 Post by Ian S » February 8th, 2019, 8:19 pm

What if it's white Zinfandel?

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#11 Post by Marcus Goodfellow » February 8th, 2019, 9:58 pm

Equal parts for sure. Early on, reds would have been the choice. But I couldn’t hazard a guess now.

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#12 Post by Rich K0rz€nk0 » February 8th, 2019, 10:03 pm

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What if it's white Zinfandel?

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#13 Post by Gerhard P. » February 9th, 2019, 1:52 am

RED - although I had quite a lot really fine whites over the last 30 years ...
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#14 Post by davidsturek » February 9th, 2019, 1:57 am

Red...but champagne has come close

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#15 Post by Hank Victor » February 9th, 2019, 8:52 am

Champagne... then red....
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#16 Post by BobMilton » February 9th, 2019, 10:10 am

I wanted to answer yes, but it wasn't an option!

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#17 Post by Markus S » February 9th, 2019, 10:33 am

Whites are more transcendent than reds, and fewer in my experience than reds. You can easily find great reds. Whites, not so much.
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#18 Post by GregT » February 9th, 2019, 11:06 am

Hard to say but probably red, especially early on. The first time I had a wine that I simply stopped everything to focus on was a red. Then I've had some incredibly complex aged Rioja that got me to love older wines. With white, the first time I was in Tokaj and was given a tasting of those glorious wines, I was staggered by how complex and delicious they were, young and old. That sparked my interest in dry whites in general and the next experience was with Riesling.

Except for those two, it's hard to imagine a white reaching the same threshold, although for some reason I'm also more tolerant of whites in general. In other words, a red that is too oaky, bretty, tannic, alcoholic, whatever, is usually irritating and if it's a white, I'm often tempted to get some hard cheese and drink it anyway.
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#19 Post by Ron Slye » February 9th, 2019, 11:19 am

Yes an interesting question. I think the most amazing highs were with some well aged reds. But I have been drifting more towards whites in the last few years, and have had some really great examples. My anecdotal sense is that I am more likely to get a better experience with a good white than with a comparable red (these are terrible generalizations with lots of exceptions). Like someone above, I resisted paying too much on whites until recently. Though I would still generally pay more for a red than a white. As GregT says just above, I am much more tolerant of mediocore whites than mediocore reds. In fact if I am at a work function and for some reason what a glass of wine, I used to just ask for white. Now I generally don't drink -- would prefer to save the calories for something better!

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#20 Post by johngonzales » February 9th, 2019, 12:05 pm

I’d have to clarify what specifically the measure is. I’ve had some “memorable” or otherwise great experiences with whites, but a part of that for me is that actually expect them to be fewer and far between. That’s MY bias. Regardless, I bet that many of us have the ratio of whites gaining ground as compared to reds.

Even so, I am heavily in the red camp. If I simply try to consider what I think are the “best” wines I’ve had, of the cuff, I think nine of my top ten are red, the only white would, probably be 01 d’Yquem. If I extend it out to 25 wines maybe there would be five more whites in the 11-25 group. Champagnes would probably be one or two of the five. I obviously don’t love white burgundy as many as most here. I also haven’t had as much of it as some, but over the many years have had a lot. Drinking-wise, I probably drink 35% white, bu it just doesn’t reach the same pinnacle for me.

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#21 Post by dsimmons » February 9th, 2019, 12:29 pm

Red for me, but like everyone else I have had some great white wines.
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#22 Post by Scott Wi3gand » February 9th, 2019, 1:16 pm

Best wine experiences are always with red wines except for when they are with white wines

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#23 Post by Cris Whetstone » February 9th, 2019, 7:22 pm

As an average of experiences I'm pretty sure it would be red by a solid margin.

The highest of the highs being Champagne but just having more great experiences with reds.

Whites can certainly be profound and notable but I'd be hard pressed to identify any number of great performances being as high as the best reds I've had.
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#24 Post by Howard Cooper » February 10th, 2019, 5:41 am

I love white wines, esp. white Burgundy, German Riesling and Champagne. Have had great, great wines from all of these types and others (Laville Haut Brion and Haut Brion Blanc). But, if I had to list my 10 favorite wines of all time, I think all would be red.
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