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2016 Scarecrow Allocation

#1 Post by z_hart » February 8th, 2019, 11:49 am

Got an e-mail from Scarecrow that I am finally being invited to purchase the upcoming '16 release. I've been buying the M. Etain each year, for years, but this was the first year that I passed, and then I get a Scarecrow allocation. Go figure.

I'm curious where it will be priced since the '17 was scrapped.
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#2 Post by Pat Esposito » February 8th, 2019, 11:50 am

I had not heard the '17 was scrapped, thanks for the information.

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#3 Post by Bdklein » February 8th, 2019, 11:53 am

z_hart wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 11:49 am
Got an e-mail from Scarecrow that I am finally being invited to purchase the upcoming '16 release. I've been buying the M. Etain each year, for years, but this was the first year that I passed, and then I get a Scarecrow allocation. Go figure.

I'm curious where it will be priced since the '17 was scrapped.
Not saying you are wrong , but where did you hear/see that the 2017 Scarecrow was scrapped ?
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#4 Post by Rob Lynch » February 8th, 2019, 12:01 pm

My understanding is that buying M. Etain does nothing for you as far as the Scarecrow list.

And I think Screaming Eagle 17 was scrapped, hadn't heard anything re: Scarecrow, maybe I missed it.

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#5 Post by z_hart » February 8th, 2019, 12:05 pm

Sorry, I got my wires crossed - it was Screaming Eagle, not Scarecrow that scraped the 2017.

I had also heard that buying M. Etain does not help status on the Scarecrow list, but I think I can confirm it now.
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#6 Post by JohnP » February 8th, 2019, 12:16 pm

z_hart wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:05 pm
Sorry, I got my wires crossed - it was Screaming Eagle, not Scarecrow that scraped the 2017.

I had also heard that buying M. Etain does not help status on the Scarecrow list, but I think I can confirm it now.
It took two years of buying M. Etain before I got on offer, first SC vintage was 2013, $900 a pack.
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#7 Post by ykwon » February 8th, 2019, 12:19 pm

You don’t have to purchase Etain to be allocated Scarecrow.
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#8 Post by Dav1d S@wyer » February 8th, 2019, 12:24 pm

z_hart wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 11:49 am
Got an e-mail from Scarecrow that I am finally being invited to purchase the upcoming '16 release. I've been buying the M. Etain each year, for years, but this was the first year that I passed, and then I get a Scarecrow allocation. Go figure.
Interesting. I haven't received the email yet. I was offered the Scarecrow and M. Etain for the last several years but didn't buy. Kept getting allocations. Finally bought some '16 M. Etains last fall and maybe now they kicked me off the Scarecrow allocation list!

I just logged in and it said Scarecrow list members would be offered in March though....I hope so. Looking forward to these.

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#9 Post by Jeremy Charmak » February 8th, 2019, 12:36 pm

I was offered Scarecrow in 2007 and bought the 3 bottles they offered me, I received the same email as above for the 2016 Vintage. Nothing in between... How much $$ does this wine release for now?

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#10 Post by b. c@stner » February 8th, 2019, 1:11 pm

Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:24 pm
z_hart wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 11:49 am
Got an e-mail from Scarecrow that I am finally being invited to purchase the upcoming '16 release. I've been buying the M. Etain each year, for years, but this was the first year that I passed, and then I get a Scarecrow allocation. Go figure.
Interesting. I haven't received the email yet. I was offered the Scarecrow and M. Etain for the last several years but didn't buy. Kept getting allocations. Finally bought some '16 M. Etains last fall and maybe now they kicked me off the Scarecrow allocation list!

I just logged in and it said Scarecrow list members would be offered in March though....I hope so. Looking forward to these.
I purchased '05, '06 and '07. Skipped '08. Went to the back of the waiting list. Got an offer for '15.
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#11 Post by JohnP » February 8th, 2019, 1:12 pm

Jeremy Charmak wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:36 pm
I was offered Scarecrow in 2007 and bought the 3 bottles they offered me, I received the same email as above for the 2016 Vintage. Nothing in between... How much $$ does this wine release for now?
2015 was $1050, guessing 2016 will be $1125.
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#12 Post by BLaird » February 8th, 2019, 1:50 pm

Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:24 pm
z_hart wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 11:49 am
Got an e-mail from Scarecrow that I am finally being invited to purchase the upcoming '16 release. I've been buying the M. Etain each year, for years, but this was the first year that I passed, and then I get a Scarecrow allocation. Go figure.
Interesting. I haven't received the email yet. I was offered the Scarecrow and M. Etain for the last several years but didn't buy. Kept getting allocations. Finally bought some '16 M. Etains last fall and maybe now they kicked me off the Scarecrow allocation list!

I just logged in and it said Scarecrow list members would be offered in March though....I hope so. Looking forward to these.
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#13 Post by KyleC » February 8th, 2019, 1:56 pm

Sigh, my email says I can expect an allocation in 2021.
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#14 Post by Scott Brunson » February 8th, 2019, 2:19 pm

JohnP wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 1:12 pm
Jeremy Charmak wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:36 pm
I was offered Scarecrow in 2007 and bought the 3 bottles they offered me, I received the same email as above for the 2016 Vintage. Nothing in between... How much $$ does this wine release for now?
2015 was $1050, guessing 2016 will be $1125.
Pretty good guess (unfortunately) IMO
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#15 Post by John Webber » February 8th, 2019, 3:10 pm

b. c@stner wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 1:11 pm
Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:24 pm
z_hart wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 11:49 am
Got an e-mail from Scarecrow that I am finally being invited to purchase the upcoming '16 release. I've been buying the M. Etain each year, for years, but this was the first year that I passed, and then I get a Scarecrow allocation. Go figure.
Interesting. I haven't received the email yet. I was offered the Scarecrow and M. Etain for the last several years but didn't buy. Kept getting allocations. Finally bought some '16 M. Etains last fall and maybe now they kicked me off the Scarecrow allocation list!

I just logged in and it said Scarecrow list members would be offered in March though....I hope so. Looking forward to these.
I purchased '05, '06 and '07. Skipped '08. Went to the back of the waiting list. Got an offer for '15.
Nearly same boat, but '16 will be my first offer since passing. Although we went to the back of the line, I know several that joined after we passed and were offered before us.

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#16 Post by Paul McCourt » February 8th, 2019, 3:18 pm

I keep getting emails even though I haven’t bought in a decade.

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#17 Post by D.Callahan » February 8th, 2019, 4:10 pm

They send emails but no allocations after a year or two.
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#18 Post by C. Keller » February 8th, 2019, 5:09 pm

I don't know when I signed up. Maybe 10 years ago. I got an allocation this year for the first time. I have never bought M. Etain.

Hard pass at $1200. Not in my budget.
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#19 Post by Marc Frontario » February 8th, 2019, 5:37 pm

I got the offer again though i have not bought and Fu'lipped the wines in years. When I bought they were $150 per.
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#20 Post by Tony Jones » February 8th, 2019, 6:51 pm

Got my email today also. Last year was my first year getting an allocation and I got 3 bottles. I hope I get allocated more this, my second year.

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#21 Post by RobertM. » February 8th, 2019, 7:13 pm

Wine Advocate gave the 2016 Scarecrow 100 points. The 2016 vintage was stellar for cabs. May be worth the buy as an investment. If anyone in Portland metro area has an allocation available to them and wants to go in on it, let me know.
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#22 Post by Ian S » February 8th, 2019, 7:34 pm

$1200?!?! For one bottle?!?!?!?! [pwn.gif] [swoon.gif]
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Sorry, I got my wires crossed - it was Screaming Eagle, not Scarecrow that scraped the 2017.
Lokoya / Chris Carpenter also refuses to release their 2017 Mt. Veeder:

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#23 Post by NoahR » February 8th, 2019, 8:45 pm

Signed onto the list in 2008. Never once bought M etain though offered every year. Got first offer in 2013...
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#24 Post by Alex N » February 8th, 2019, 9:11 pm

I was able to purchase the Scarecrow 3 pack last year and received today's email. Never bought M Etain and have been on the list for barely 3 years.
Have been on Alban's list for much longer and rarely get offered their super limited wines.
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#25 Post by Paul McCourt » February 9th, 2019, 4:32 am

D.Callahan wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 4:10 pm
They send emails but no allocations after a year or two.
Ah! That explains it.

I haven't actually read it in a while. The last time I ordered I gave my allocation to a certain Californian who had some "difficulties" with the truth and paying me.

He went on to France to become a legendary winemaker.....

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#26 Post by b. c@stner » February 9th, 2019, 4:46 am

John Webber wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 3:10 pm
b. c@stner wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 1:11 pm
Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:24 pm


Interesting. I haven't received the email yet. I was offered the Scarecrow and M. Etain for the last several years but didn't buy. Kept getting allocations. Finally bought some '16 M. Etains last fall and maybe now they kicked me off the Scarecrow allocation list!

I just logged in and it said Scarecrow list members would be offered in March though....I hope so. Looking forward to these.
I purchased '05, '06 and '07. Skipped '08. Went to the back of the waiting list. Got an offer for '15.
Nearly same boat, but '16 will be my first offer since passing. Although we went to the back of the line, I know several that joined after we passed and were offered before us.
I think we got put on double-secret probation!
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#27 Post by Scott Brunson » February 9th, 2019, 5:21 am

Tony Jones wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 6:51 pm
Got my email today also. Last year was my first year getting an allocation and I got 3 bottles. I hope I get allocated more this, my second year.
My first vintage was '07
I didn't get an allocation bump until 2 or 3 years ago.
Paul McCourt wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 4:32 am
D.Callahan wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 4:10 pm
They send emails but no allocations after a year or two.
Ah! That explains it.

I haven't actually read it in a while. The last time I ordered I gave my allocation to a certain Californian who had some "difficulties" with the truth and paying me.

He went on to France to become a legendary winemaker.....
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#28 Post by Ian S » February 9th, 2019, 5:51 am

Scott Brunson wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 5:21 am
Tony Jones wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 6:51 pm
Got my email today also. Last year was my first year getting an allocation and I got 3 bottles. I hope I get allocated more this, my second year.
My first vintage was '07
I didn't get an allocation bump until 2 or 3 years ago.
Paul McCourt wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 4:32 am
D.Callahan wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 4:10 pm
They send emails but no allocations after a year or two.
Ah! That explains it.

I haven't actually read it in a while. The last time I ordered I gave my allocation to a certain Californian who had some "difficulties" with the truth and paying me.

He went on to France to become a legendary winemaker.....
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#29 Post by Paul McCourt » February 9th, 2019, 6:14 am

Scott Brunson wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 5:21 am
Tony Jones wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 6:51 pm
Got my email today also. Last year was my first year getting an allocation and I got 3 bottles. I hope I get allocated more this, my second year.
My first vintage was '07
I didn't get an allocation bump until 2 or 3 years ago.
Paul McCourt wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 4:32 am
D.Callahan wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 4:10 pm
They send emails but no allocations after a year or two.
Ah! That explains it.

I haven't actually read it in a while. The last time I ordered I gave my allocation to a certain Californian who had some "difficulties" with the truth and paying me.

He went on to France to become a legendary winemaker.....
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#30 Post by Dav1d S@wyer » February 9th, 2019, 10:47 am

Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:24 pm
z_hart wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 11:49 am
Got an e-mail from Scarecrow that I am finally being invited to purchase the upcoming '16 release. I've been buying the M. Etain each year, for years, but this was the first year that I passed, and then I get a Scarecrow allocation. Go figure.
Interesting. I haven't received the email yet. I was offered the Scarecrow and M. Etain for the last several years but didn't buy. Kept getting allocations. Finally bought some '16 M. Etains last fall and maybe now they kicked me off the Scarecrow allocation list!

I just logged in and it said Scarecrow list members would be offered in March though....I hope so. Looking forward to these.
10 minutes after I posted the above yesterday, I received an email from the winery:

“As we prepare to release the 2016 Scarecrow Cabernet Sauvignon next month, we wanted to remind you that offers are extended to customers based on list seniority - generally after a 3 year waiting period. If you do not receive an offer this year, it is either for that reason or because a Scarecrow offer was extended to you in the past but was not purchased. Declining to purchase Scarecrow during your prescribed offer period shifts your position to the end of our waiting list, opening the opportunity for newer list members to move up.”

I guess l’ll make sure to buy the 2019s!

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#31 Post by Jeremy Charmak » February 9th, 2019, 2:03 pm

Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 10:47 am
Dav1d S@wyer wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 12:24 pm
z_hart wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 11:49 am
Got an e-mail from Scarecrow that I am finally being invited to purchase the upcoming '16 release. I've been buying the M. Etain each year, for years, but this was the first year that I passed, and then I get a Scarecrow allocation. Go figure.
Interesting. I haven't received the email yet. I was offered the Scarecrow and M. Etain for the last several years but didn't buy. Kept getting allocations. Finally bought some '16 M. Etains last fall and maybe now they kicked me off the Scarecrow allocation list!

I just logged in and it said Scarecrow list members would be offered in March though....I hope so. Looking forward to these.
10 minutes after I posted the above yesterday, I received an email from the winery:

“As we prepare to release the 2016 Scarecrow Cabernet Sauvignon next month, we wanted to remind you that offers are extended to customers based on list seniority - generally after a 3 year waiting period. If you do not receive an offer this year, it is either for that reason or because a Scarecrow offer was extended to you in the past but was not purchased. Declining to purchase Scarecrow during your prescribed offer period shifts your position to the end of our waiting list, opening the opportunity for newer list members to move up.”

I guess l’ll make sure to buy the 2019s!

Below is what I received;

It is our great delight to share with you that based on your list seniority you will be receiving an invitation to purchase the 2016 Scarecrow Cabernet Sauvignon. The offer begins in early March and more details will be provided prior to that time. For a seamless delivery experience, we suggest that you consider using a business or FedEx office shipping address.

We respectfully remind you that declining to purchase the wine during your prescribed time-frame will shift your position to the end of our waiting list, allowing others the opportunity to purchase. As usual, the wine is offered on a first come, first served basis.

The 2016 vintage is our fourth 100 point wine and we are thrilled that you would consider adding this stunner to your cellar!

~My guess is that many people on the list last year did not buy and where booted to the end of the line.
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#32 Post by ykwon » February 9th, 2019, 2:19 pm

Has anyone had their allocations increase after being granted a wish list from the prior release?
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#33 Post by JohnP » February 9th, 2019, 5:36 pm

ykwon wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 2:19 pm
Has anyone had their allocations increase after being granted a wish list from the prior release?
Been buying since 2013 and have only received a 3-pack offer. However, for 2014 I was offered a Magnum but declined, was not offered it again for 2015
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#34 Post by Joe Mendez » February 9th, 2019, 10:19 pm

I got the email for my allocation. Anyone know how long the allocation is guaranteed for?

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#35 Post by Scott Brunson » February 10th, 2019, 4:26 am

Joe Mendez wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 10:19 pm
I got the email for my allocation. Anyone know how long the allocation is guaranteed for?
First come first served
The release usually comes in waves so long time buyers don't have to rush.
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#36 Post by Bdklein » February 10th, 2019, 11:01 am

Any info what is the price point ? Or historically? Have to assume shippinng these to the East coast can get pricey .
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#37 Post by matt d » February 10th, 2019, 11:10 am

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Any info what is the price point ? Or historically? Have to assume shippinng these to the East coast can get pricey .
lat year i was 1225 with tax and shipping to ohio
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#38 Post by ykwon » February 10th, 2019, 11:55 am

I bet it’ll be $1,150 per 3 pack. It went up $60 from 2014 to 2015. Guessing a 6% increase just like the previous year.

Looks like production went from 1,850 cases (2015) to 2,000 cases (2016). Looks like more folks will continue to be added like the previous year.
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#39 Post by Bdklein » February 10th, 2019, 2:23 pm

Thanks .
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#40 Post by Ken Strauss » February 10th, 2019, 4:07 pm

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I bet it’ll be $1,150 per 3 pack. It went up $60 from 2014 to 2015. Guessing a 6% increase just like the previous year.

Looks like production went from 1,850 cases (2015) to 2,000 cases (2016). Looks like more folks will continue to be added like the previous year.
With the increased production I wonder if they will offer extra bottles to existing buyers or add new people.
A few years ago I was able to buy 6 instead of 3. The extra 3 were a wish.
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#41 Post by Christian Becker » February 15th, 2019, 8:12 am

Scott Brunson wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 4:26 am
Joe Mendez wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 10:19 pm
I got the email for my allocation. Anyone know how long the allocation is guaranteed for?
First come first served
The release usually comes in waves so long time buyers don't have to rush.
When is the first wave open ? Anyone know ?

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#42 Post by Scott Brunson » February 15th, 2019, 12:47 pm

Christian Becker wrote:
February 15th, 2019, 8:12 am
Scott Brunson wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 4:26 am
Joe Mendez wrote:
February 9th, 2019, 10:19 pm
I got the email for my allocation. Anyone know how long the allocation is guaranteed for?
First come first served
The release usually comes in waves so long time buyers don't have to rush.
When is the first wave open ? Anyone know ?
Last year was the beginning of March I think.
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#43 Post by Harvey Kornicks » February 15th, 2019, 4:01 pm

Scarecrow is one of our prizes. Not just the wines that are great also their customer services

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#44 Post by AlexanderWestgarth » February 17th, 2019, 7:44 pm

Anyone looking for sell some scarecrow? We are always in the market for OWC cases so please get in contact and see if you like our bids.

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#45 Post by Pat Esposito » February 19th, 2019, 10:42 am

$400 / bottle this year, plus tax and shipping. Up $50/bottle from last year.

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Re: 2016 Scarecrow Allocation

#46 Post by ykwon » February 19th, 2019, 10:43 am

Pat Esposito wrote:
February 19th, 2019, 10:42 am
$400 / bottle this year, plus tax and shipping. Up $50/bottle from last year.
That’s a big increase. What’s your release date?
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Re: 2016 Scarecrow Allocation

#47 Post by Todd F r e n c h » February 19th, 2019, 11:14 am

Pat Esposito wrote:
February 19th, 2019, 10:42 am
$400 / bottle this year, plus tax and shipping. Up $50/bottle from last year.
Where's you get this information?
Apparently I'm lazy, have a narrow agenda, and offer little in the way of content and substance (RMP) (and have a "penchant for gossip" -KBI)

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Re: 2016 Scarecrow Allocation

#48 Post by J. Galang » February 19th, 2019, 12:23 pm

Pat Esposito wrote:
February 19th, 2019, 10:42 am
$400 / bottle this year, plus tax and shipping. Up $50/bottle from last year.
I just looked at my account, my first offer and purchase was back in 2010 for the 2007 vintage. It was $675 for a 3-pack. Now if the rumor is true, we are almost double that price. [cry.gif]
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Re: 2016 Scarecrow Allocation

#49 Post by jordan whitehead » February 19th, 2019, 12:47 pm

3 pack pricing
2005 $450
2006 $525
2007 $675
2008 $675
2009 ???
2010 $750
2011 $750
2012 $855
2013 $900
2014 $990
2015 $1050
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Re: 2016 Scarecrow Allocation

#50 Post by B Thorne » February 19th, 2019, 12:53 pm

Stop the madness!


..as we all still buy
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