TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

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TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

#1 Post by Jeremy Holmes » February 7th, 2019, 7:48 pm

  • 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot - France, Burgundy, Côte de Beaune, Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru (2/6/2019)
    There's struck match and perfectly ripe white peach on the nose. With a bit of air you get plenty of spice and the Ramonet telltale spearmint. It is full and generous in the mouth but also a wine of great balance and elegance. It builds through the palate, possessing good volume and showing a hint of lavender and apricot (perhaps botrytis that shows in many '10's?). A delicious wine that is drinking at the top of its game.
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Re: TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

#2 Post by alan weinberg » February 7th, 2019, 8:56 pm

the grand crus from Ramonet are now out of my reach but with wines like this, I’m ok with it.

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Re: TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

#3 Post by James Billy » February 7th, 2019, 11:31 pm

Isn't the spearmint telltale Chassagne?

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#4 Post by James Billy » February 7th, 2019, 11:31 pm

Nice note. Isn't the spearmint telltale Chassagne?

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Re: TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

#5 Post by dcornutt » February 8th, 2019, 3:47 am

James Billy wrote:
February 7th, 2019, 11:31 pm
Nice note. Isn't the spearmint telltale Chassagne?
I heard this has to do with the filter that Ramonet uses. Anyone know?
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Re: TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

#6 Post by alan weinberg » February 8th, 2019, 5:49 pm

dcornutt wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 3:47 am
James Billy wrote:
February 7th, 2019, 11:31 pm
Nice note. Isn't the spearmint telltale Chassagne?
I heard this has to do with the filter that Ramonet uses. Anyone know?
that’s the same story I heard/read. Rarely get it in other wines.

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#7 Post by William Kelley » February 9th, 2019, 4:54 am

alan weinberg wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 5:49 pm
dcornutt wrote:
February 8th, 2019, 3:47 am
James Billy wrote:
February 7th, 2019, 11:31 pm
Nice note. Isn't the spearmint telltale Chassagne?
I heard this has to do with the filter that Ramonet uses. Anyone know?
that’s the same story I heard/read. Rarely get it in other wines.
I have heard it alleged that it's the particular fining agent they use.

To me, it seems more likely to be related to barrel choices and cellar microflora, in so far as it continues to be a feature of the wines.
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#8 Post by Jeremy Holmes » February 9th, 2019, 4:40 pm

Always assumed it was derived from the barrel.
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Re: TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

#9 Post by Jayson Cohen » February 9th, 2019, 4:59 pm

Always heard fining agent. Bentonite binds to terpenes, which one would think would reduce mint-like aromatics. But the chemistry may be more complicated. In any case it’s certainly possible it’s caused by the fining agent(s).

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#10 Post by alan weinberg » February 10th, 2019, 4:19 pm

per Remington Norman, Ramonet fines w casein and bentonite, then does a light plate filtration.

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Re: TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

#11 Post by William Kelley » February 10th, 2019, 6:25 pm

alan weinberg wrote:
February 10th, 2019, 4:19 pm
per Remington Norman, Ramonet fines w casein and bentonite, then does a light plate filtration.
Right, which is not especially unusual... And not necessarily systematic, either.

They are quite attentive to cooperage choices, but several of the coopers they use today didn't even exist when the reputation for "mintiness" was already established.
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Re: TN: 2010 Domaine Ramonet Chassagne-Montrachet 1er Cru Morgeot

#12 Post by m. ristev » February 10th, 2019, 7:30 pm

anyone try the 11 morgeot recently?
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