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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#51 Post by John Kight » February 6th, 2019, 9:10 am

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Well under $50 is 2009 La Rioja Alta Vina Ardanza. Really excellent traditional Rioja in a rich style.
Great producer, but for under $50 you can go one step up and get their Gran Reserva 904, typically in the $44.99-$49.99 range. This is an impressive wine and I think would "win" in a field of cabs, mostly just because it would stand out a bit.

That said, I think your EASIEST path to "Wine of the Night" would be Jean Foillard Morgan Cote du Py (about $35), if you can find it, from any vintage (though of the 2015 and 2016 likely available now, the 2016 would probably have a slight edge). I've never poured that for anyone who didn't think it was the best wine of the night.

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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#52 Post by David Cooper » February 6th, 2019, 10:02 am

John. I like the 904 but find the Ardanza to generally bring less new American oak to the glass. For me the caramel and dill is just a little too much.

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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#53 Post by John Kight » February 6th, 2019, 11:17 am

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John. I like the 904 but find the Ardanza to generally bring less new American oak to the glass. For me the caramel and dill is just a little too much.
Makes sense...dill can be very jolting and disconcerting. Honestly, I haven't had the wines back to back (in order to compare), but my sense with both of these wines has always been that that they have a noticeable dill element, but not enough to be distracting. Never really noticed the 904 to be "more" than with the Ardanza. That said, I did find the Vina Alberdi (which I believe is the least expensive wine in the La Rioja Alta lineup) to be way too much dill relative to the fruit, so I've always avoided that one in favour of the other two.

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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#54 Post by Anton D » February 6th, 2019, 11:20 am

2014 Louis Martini Alexander Valley cabernet.

Parker gave it a 97, if that matters.

Plus, as low as 30 bucks on Wine Searcher!

Plus, it's a name nobody would suspect of being so good.
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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#55 Post by K John Joseph » February 6th, 2019, 11:35 am

John Kight wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 9:10 am
David Cooper wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 1:13 pm
Well under $50 is 2009 La Rioja Alta Vina Ardanza. Really excellent traditional Rioja in a rich style.
Great producer, but for under $50 you can go one step up and get their Gran Reserva 904, typically in the $44.99-$49.99 range. This is an impressive wine and I think would "win" in a field of cabs, mostly just because it would stand out a bit.
My thought ran here too. Some Rioja. A Moro or Muga or La Rioja. Maybe a CVNE, the highest end you can get for $50.

If you want something lighter with show stopping aromatics, go to Oregon for pinot noir. There are so many brilliant wines. Walter Scott, Cristom, Drouhin, Beaux Freres, Brick House Cuvee de Tonnelier or Dijonnais, or any number of other top dogs (many of whom frequent this site).
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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#56 Post by Todd F r e n c h » February 6th, 2019, 11:37 am

K John Joseph wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 11:35 am
John Kight wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 9:10 am
David Cooper wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 1:13 pm
Well under $50 is 2009 La Rioja Alta Vina Ardanza. Really excellent traditional Rioja in a rich style.
Great producer, but for under $50 you can go one step up and get their Gran Reserva 904, typically in the $44.99-$49.99 range. This is an impressive wine and I think would "win" in a field of cabs, mostly just because it would stand out a bit.
My thought ran here too. Some Rioja. A Moro or Muga or La Rioja. Maybe a CVNE, the highest end you can get for $50.
Second this - often CVNE has some age on it when in the marketplace (not a lot, but you'll run across 2011, 2012, 2013 ish) and it's a fantastic wine for the price. Also, buy one for yourself and forget about it. 30 years later...perfect
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#57 Post by Jay Miller » February 6th, 2019, 12:39 pm

Young CVNE is pretty oaky these days (since the mid-90s) so that might depend on the palate preferences of the people in the competition.
Ripe fruit isn't necessarily a flaw.

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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#58 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » February 6th, 2019, 12:45 pm

John Kight wrote:
February 6th, 2019, 9:10 am
David Cooper wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 1:13 pm
Well under $50 is 2009 La Rioja Alta Vina Ardanza. Really excellent traditional Rioja in a rich style.
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That said, I think your EASIEST path to "Wine of the Night" would be Jean Foillard Morgan Cote du Py (about $35), if you can find it, from any vintage (though of the 2015 and 2016 likely available now, the 2016 would probably have a slight edge). I've never poured that for anyone who didn't think it was the best wine of the night.
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It's fruity. Not too oaky. Not heavy/gloppy, which you can likely expect from some of the other entrants. It's "fresh." Most importantly, it's delicious and will stand-out in a crowd of more predictable offerings.
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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#59 Post by J3ff S@g@n » February 7th, 2019, 9:24 am

Thx everyone..

I ended looking for a bunch of these, and found a 15 Venge Silencieux in stock nearby. Anxious to see how it does.

Thx again!

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#60 Post by NickRut » February 7th, 2019, 9:56 am

J3ff S@g@n wrote:
February 7th, 2019, 9:24 am
Thx everyone..

I ended looking for a bunch of these, and found a 15 Venge Silencieux in stock nearby. Anxious to see how it does.

Thx again!

Let us know how it goes
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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#61 Post by J3ff S@g@n » February 11th, 2019, 8:47 am

The contest was held Saturday night. Mixed crowd all pretty intoxicated towards the end.

A few Orin Swift - Machete and Prisoner, and locations F
Domaine Senechaux Chateauneuf du Pape
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Venge Silencioux
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2010 Chateaux Poujeaux

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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#62 Post by David Glasser » February 11th, 2019, 4:09 pm

Love it! Thanks for the follow-up.

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#63 Post by Brian G r a f s t r o m » February 11th, 2019, 4:16 pm

Nice!
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Re: Need to win a $50 max blind tasting red wine

#64 Post by Rama Roberts » February 11th, 2019, 5:09 pm

John Morris wrote:
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Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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Eric S n y d e r wrote:
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Depends on the crowd, but Ridge Geyserville is what jumps to the front for me.
Ridge is what I bring when I either don't really know the audience or know it's a mixed group. I'm not sure I have encountered anyone that didn't like Ridge Geyserville, and most just love it.
Yes, a Ridge Geyserville or Lytton Springs could span a lot of different tastes. It's got lots of fruit, but would outclass a lot of other fruity wines.
Another vote for either of these. Not too hard to find, hits your price point, tons of fruit to please and stand out, yet depth for the discerning.

EDIT: Ha! Guess I'll need to read the whole thread next time.

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