What ESJ-like Berserkers Days Syrah Should I Buy?

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What ESJ-like Berserkers Days Syrah Should I Buy?

#1 Post by David Mc » January 22nd, 2019, 2:42 pm

Since I've drank my last ESJ bottle a few months ago, I have been craving ESJ. With no ESJ in my foreseeable future, are there any ESJ-like wines from BD worth trying?
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#2 Post by mattcitrang » January 22nd, 2019, 2:44 pm

ESJ - would someone please define this acronym.

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#3 Post by Corey N. » January 22nd, 2019, 2:52 pm

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January 22nd, 2019, 2:44 pm
ESJ - would someone please define this acronym.
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#4 Post by T. Altmayer » January 22nd, 2019, 2:54 pm

I don't remember them participating in the past, are they a part of the offering this year?
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#5 Post by mark rudner » January 22nd, 2019, 2:55 pm

he said esj-like

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#6 Post by T. Altmayer » January 22nd, 2019, 3:01 pm

mark rudner wrote:
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he said esj-like
Ahh. I like Lagier Meredith quite a bit and certainly close to the ESJ style.
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#7 Post by Jason T » January 22nd, 2019, 4:28 pm

Was thinking Lagier Meredith as well.
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#8 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 22nd, 2019, 4:47 pm

L-M makes notably larger scaled wines than ESJ. That said, I love their Syrah.

Steve Edmunds has Syrah available. Get in touch with him.
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#9 Post by Dave H. » January 22nd, 2019, 4:51 pm

Halcon has participated in the past. Reliably excellent California Syrah that is neither too fat nor too lean.
Would be one to check out, but can’t speak to degree they are ESJ-like, aside from both being very tasty.
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#10 Post by Lee Short » January 22nd, 2019, 5:18 pm

D@vid Bu3ker wrote:
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L-M makes notably larger scaled wines than ESJ. That said, I love their Syrah.

Steve Edmunds has Syrah available. Get in touch with him.
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I think the closest BD syrahs to the ESJ style are Cabot and Briceland. But they're not really that close, IME. If what you want is ESJ, just get the real thing.

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#11 Post by David Mc » January 23rd, 2019, 3:03 pm

Thanks for the input! I'll check out the deals on BD and have an email into Steve (thanks David!)
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#12 Post by larry schaffer » January 23rd, 2019, 5:37 pm

So it sounds as if you are looking for lower alcohol, more 'restrained' styles of syrah, correct? My guess is that Arnot Roberts may be too far to the AFWE scale, and they don't participate. What about Dehlinger? Again, they don't participate but that might be the ticket.

You should probably become a cru member so you can preview stuff the day before - and get an idea of 'styles' by asking questions then.

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#13 Post by Wes Barton » January 23rd, 2019, 6:00 pm

If the Sandler is offered, jump on that.

Not participating afaik, but Waxwing fits the bill.
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#14 Post by PeterH » January 23rd, 2019, 6:00 pm

Don't forget Deux Vert Vineyard Syrah by Biggio Hamina or Matello. If it happens to get offered, I think it is in the range of what you are looking for.
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#15 Post by Jason T » January 24th, 2019, 1:23 pm

I haven’t had Biggio Hamina’s Deux Vert but have had Goodfellow’s. I thought it was yummy but leaned more AFWE. Can anyone who has had that and A-R chime in?
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#16 Post by PeterH » January 25th, 2019, 11:57 am

Jason T wrote:
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I haven’t had Biggio Hamina’s Deux Vert but have had Goodfellow’s. I thought it was yummy but leaned more AFWE. Can anyone who has had that and A-R chime in?
I'm going to have to hedge and say, "depends on vintage", but I've found Arnot Roberts wines to be generally harsh, packed with more bacon and olive than fruit. The two Oregon producers provide retrained fruit, but flavors are not lacking. The Northern Rhone character comes out, but, while it seems like many new world producers try to push Syrah too far in one direction or another, Todd and Marcus just let the cool climate fruit be what it is.
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#17 Post by Jason T » January 25th, 2019, 1:05 pm

Got it, thanks for the explanation Peter. I don’t drink much Syrah but what you stated makes sense.
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#18 Post by Richard T r i m p i » January 25th, 2019, 1:23 pm

Really no substitute for ESJ Syrah. Best of breed and unsurpassed at the price points. Biggio Hamina and Matello/Goodfellow produce fine restrained examples, if offered. A plug for Cabot (Humboldt County) which can be quite tasty too...don't know if they're participating this year.

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#19 Post by D@vid Bu3ker » January 25th, 2019, 2:24 pm

While I love Arnot-Roberts, it’s way leaner than ESJ.
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#20 Post by Todd Hamina » January 25th, 2019, 7:29 pm

I am not offering any syrah for bday. But I can make you a deal on something after sunday if you are still in a buying mode.
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#21 Post by Todd Hamina » February 10th, 2019, 12:10 pm

Here is some shameless self promotion: viewtopic.php?f=7&t=158443

(...or why you should give Todd and the crew some money to be a Berserker Business).
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#22 Post by brigcampbell » February 10th, 2019, 12:52 pm

I've been working through a case of XIV and when I opened the first bottle I emailed Todd and said "damn, that's a nice wine". He emailed back "duh". LOL

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    Medium light cranberry color with slight bricking. Nose is olive brine, sage and red berry. Medium/light mouthfeel, medium plus acidity balances it nicely. Lean raspberries, black currants and herbal tones. Medium finish. Very nice. Could come off as a well made Grenache based Châteauneuf de Pape. That's high praise.
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#23 Post by Peter Petersen » February 11th, 2019, 8:15 am

Thanks for the note. Bought the last 6 pack of the BH Syrah offer and looking forward to trying them.

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