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Re: 2017 Beaujolais

#51 Post by Ryan M » June 12th, 2019, 7:32 am

I've had one, and I don't really Beaujolais vintages, so i can't comment on the style of the vintage; but I found this one very compelling:

Pierre-Marie Chermette, Les Trois Roches, Moulin a Vent 2017
Exceptional, lovely nose, with cherry/raspberry, blackberry, black currant, all very meaty, with abundant spice and loads of smokey stone/earth; outstanding depth and fragrance. On the palate, sweet, succulent, meaty cherry / raspberry, blackberry, black currant, a touch of mint tobacco leaf, generous spice and black pepper (with a bit of heat even), then tons of smokey / salty stone / mineral. Very full bodied, with outstanding density, grip, and acid tone, with a long, mineral laden finish; very fresh, succulent but also very savory in texture. Outstanding, the best Beaujolais I have ever had, so complete and satisfying. 5 to 10 years ahead, perhaps as much as 15. 4 Stars [4/27/19]
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#52 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » June 13th, 2019, 6:36 pm

Thanks, Ryan! Just ordered some.

And, motivated, popped a 2017 Thivin. It’s fantastic. Ordering yet more. I accidentally have almost killed the whole bottle through dinner and reading news.

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#53 Post by Jeff Rosenberg » June 13th, 2019, 7:13 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 6:36 pm
I accidentally have almost killed the whole bottle through dinner and reading news.
I frequently have the same problem.

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#54 Post by Ian Fitzsimmons » July 7th, 2019, 3:09 pm

William Kelley wrote:
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My local retailer is carrying a producer that I have not tried before, any comments:

2017 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903

I just grabbed more Bouland.
What you really need is magnums of the Morgon Delys, Robert.
How long do you hold the Delys in magnum, William, as a general matter. I have 2011, and the only 750 I've opened so far shooed me out of the room and told me not to come back for several years.

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#55 Post by G. Newman » July 7th, 2019, 4:31 pm

I really enjoyed the 2017 from Domaine des Billards Saint-Amour. I had read that Saint-Amour can be of poor quality as much of it is produced for Valentine's day, but thought the Domaine des Billards was great: pomegranate and red cherries on the nose, with a rich, full-bodied wine on the palate.

John Gilman has been raving about this Cru bottling for a couple of years now but I had never come across it. His praise for the 2017 was very strong: "seamless tannins and great focus and grip on the very, very long .... finish."

The amazing thing is not that he suggests holding off until 2023 to begin drinking it, but that it could last through 2060!
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#56 Post by William Kelley » July 8th, 2019, 8:00 am

Ian Fitzsimmons wrote:
July 7th, 2019, 3:09 pm
William Kelley wrote:
May 2nd, 2019, 10:39 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
May 2nd, 2019, 8:17 am
My local retailer is carrying a producer that I have not tried before, any comments:

2017 Yohan Lardy Moulin-a-Vent Vieilles Vignes de 1903

I just grabbed more Bouland.
What you really need is magnums of the Morgon Delys, Robert.
How long do you hold the Delys in magnum, William, as a general matter. I have 2011, and the only 750 I've opened so far shooed me out of the room and told me not to come back for several years.
Ten years is great... 2018 will be a bit more open-knit and accessible out of the gates than 2011, whereas 2017 will need a similar amount of time.
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#57 Post by Hank Victor » July 8th, 2019, 9:07 am

2017 Foillard Morgon Cuvee Corcelette was drinking great last week.
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#58 Post by David_K » July 8th, 2019, 10:26 am

Hank Victor wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 9:07 am
2017 Foillard Morgon Cuvee Corcelette was drinking great last week.
Good to hear. I have some of this on order.
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#59 Post by Ian Fitzsimmons » July 8th, 2019, 3:56 pm

What kind of pup is that, David, if you don't mind me asking?

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#60 Post by m. ristev » July 8th, 2019, 3:57 pm

drank the 17 dutraive fleurie lieu dit <champagne> and it was wonderful. the aromatics were very similar to metras. there was incredible balance and freshness...hard to believe it is 14 degrees abv
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#61 Post by David_K » July 8th, 2019, 6:09 pm

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What kind of pup is that, David, if you don't mind me asking?
Good question - wish I knew! [snort.gif]

She's a mut. Probably some lab, hound, and who knows what else...
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#62 Post by Pat Martin » July 8th, 2019, 7:39 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 6:36 pm
... And, motivated, popped a 2017 Thivin. It’s fantastic. Ordering yet more. I accidentally have almost killed the whole bottle through dinner and reading news.
Just had this. I’m not a big Beaujolais guy, but I loved the 2017 Thivin CdB.

Must... get... more.

What’s the scoop with the Reverdon bottling from Thivin?
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#63 Post by G. Shields » July 9th, 2019, 5:12 am

Pat Martin wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 7:39 pm
What’s the scoop with the Reverdon bottling from Thivin?
Hi Pat, the Reverdon 2017 is very nice, have had it a few times over the past 6 months. The vineyard is east facing opposite the domaine and sees no oak in élevage, only concrete to maximize fruit. It is refreshing, fruit-forward and juicy with some nice rocky perfume. Perfect for a simple mid-week drink!

I visited the domaine few months back, some pics on Instagram (see handle below) and you can see the vineyard etc... kept meaning to post here but time ran away from me... blush
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#64 Post by William Kelley » July 9th, 2019, 5:26 am

G. Shields wrote:
July 9th, 2019, 5:12 am
Pat Martin wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 7:39 pm
What’s the scoop with the Reverdon bottling from Thivin?
Hi Pat, the Reverdon 2017 is very nice, have had it a few times over the past 6 months. The vineyard is east facing opposite the domaine and sees no oak in élevage, only concrete to maximize fruit. It is refreshing, fruit-forward and juicy with some nice rocky perfume. Perfect for a simple mid-week drink!
Perfectly expressed!
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#65 Post by Ian Fitzsimmons » July 9th, 2019, 8:10 am

David_K wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 6:09 pm
Ian Fitzsimmons wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 3:56 pm
What kind of pup is that, David, if you don't mind me asking?
Good question - wish I knew! [snort.gif]

She's a mut. Probably some lab, hound, and who knows what else...
Mutts can be the best. Scouting around for a four-legged companion myself now, hence the interest.

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#66 Post by Rich Salsano » July 13th, 2019, 4:32 pm

Pat Martin wrote:
July 8th, 2019, 7:39 pm
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
June 13th, 2019, 6:36 pm
... And, motivated, popped a 2017 Thivin. It’s fantastic. Ordering yet more. I accidentally have almost killed the whole bottle through dinner and reading news.
Just had this. I’m not a big Beaujolais guy, but I loved the 2017 Thivin CdB.

Must... get... more.

What’s the scoop with the Reverdon bottling from Thivin?
I think the Reverdon is slightly younger vines. Regardless, it’s delicious. Popped a bottle today to enjoy in the backyard. Fresh, lively, fruity and delicious with just the right amount of structure for a quaffer. Definitely more of a drink younger wine.
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#67 Post by Bejan Atashkar » July 13th, 2019, 11:09 pm

I had a bottle of the 2017 Lapierre Morgon with N stamp a week ago. It seemed quite ripe for such a young Morgon, but perhaps this was due to bottle variation in the no-sulfite-added form. The wine was delightful and bursting with red and blue fruit, but I didn’t see it having the longevity of vintages in recent memory. Will have to try an S bottle to see if this was a one-off situation.

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#68 Post by slada » July 21st, 2019, 11:28 am

Not a ‘17 but had an incredibly delicious foillard
eponym morgon 2016 last night- touch smoky slightly tart red fruit with wonderful soft texture and long finish
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#69 Post by Justin S » July 22nd, 2019, 7:31 am

Bejan Atashkar wrote:
July 13th, 2019, 11:09 pm
I had a bottle of the 2017 Lapierre Morgon with N stamp a week ago. It seemed quite ripe for such a young Morgon, but perhaps this was due to bottle variation in the no-sulfite-added form. The wine was delightful and bursting with red and blue fruit, but I didn’t see it having the longevity of vintages in recent memory. Will have to try an S bottle to see if this was a one-off situation.
'17 is more fruity and less structured than the '16 in my view, but it could be that the former needed some time to settle down and shed some baby fat. I also prefer the '16.
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#70 Post by Bejan Atashkar » July 24th, 2019, 2:42 pm

Justin S wrote:
July 22nd, 2019, 7:31 am

'17 is more fruity and less structured than the '16 in my view, but it could be that the former needed some time to settle down and shed some baby fat. I also prefer the '16.
Good points. Agreed.

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#71 Post by Hank Victor » July 25th, 2019, 9:23 am

Tasted and bought some Thevenet 17
70 year old vines..
Bio...
Pretty rustic and savory. Will benefit from some cellar time.
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#72 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 26th, 2019, 7:39 pm

The 2017 Roilette Cuvee Tardive is killer but boy does this wine need time. Lots of time. Glad to have it, hide it for ten years.

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#73 Post by slada » July 26th, 2019, 10:27 pm

CHATEAU THIVIN 2017 COTE DE BROUILLY is delicious! Deep color ripe raspberries and plum with a splash of balsamic and then just so lively and fresh and succulent even- and for $25 ...
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#74 Post by William Kelley » July 27th, 2019, 4:26 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
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The 2017 Roilette Cuvee Tardive is killer but boy does this wine need time. Lots of time. Glad to have it, hide it for ten years.
Lots of hail in Fleurie in 2017, but all the Coudert wines are evolving in the right direction. 2018 from them is a bit fleshier and more enveloping, can be drunk younger though I suspect kept just as long.
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#75 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 27th, 2019, 4:52 am

slada wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 10:27 pm
CHATEAU THIVIN 2017 COTE DE BROUILLY is delicious! Deep color ripe raspberries and plum with a splash of balsamic and then just so lively and fresh and succulent even- and for $25 ...
Aside from the Bouland Delys cuvee, the Thivin is the WOTV for me.

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#76 Post by William Kelley » July 27th, 2019, 5:20 am

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 4:52 am
slada wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 10:27 pm
CHATEAU THIVIN 2017 COTE DE BROUILLY is delicious! Deep color ripe raspberries and plum with a splash of balsamic and then just so lively and fresh and succulent even- and for $25 ...
Aside from the Bouland Delys cuvee, the Thivin is the WOTV for me.
Dutraive's 2017 Champagne is up there for me! And the Louis-Claude Desvignes Impenitents.
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#77 Post by David_K » July 27th, 2019, 6:05 am

Anyone tried Foillard's Cuvee Corcelette yet? I'm still waiting on mine to arrive.
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#78 Post by William Kelley » July 27th, 2019, 6:11 am

David_K wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 6:05 am
Anyone tried Foillard's Cuvee Corcelette yet? I'm still waiting on mine to arrive.
Yes, it's very nice! I prefer it to the 2016; whereas I prefer the 2016 Côte du Py to the 2017, at least for the time being. Bought both vintages for my own cellar.
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#79 Post by Nathan V. » July 27th, 2019, 8:12 am

William Kelley wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 5:20 am
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 4:52 am
slada wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 10:27 pm
CHATEAU THIVIN 2017 COTE DE BROUILLY is delicious! Deep color ripe raspberries and plum with a splash of balsamic and then just so lively and fresh and succulent even- and for $25 ...
Aside from the Bouland Delys cuvee, the Thivin is the WOTV for me.
Dutraive's 2017 Champagne is up there for me! And the Louis-Claude Desvignes Impenitents.
So I had a terrible bottle of Dutraive Champagne a few weeks back. Really volatile and ended up being undrinkable for us. Wasn't at all like I remember Dutraive wines of the past. I missed the 2016s but my last visit there tasted the 2014s out of bottle and 2015s out of cask and they were excellent. Really surprised me as this wasn't an off bottle situation but a problem with the wine situation. This passed through the three-tier system directly to me during the fall of last year.

Desvignes doesn't get the love it deserves, IMO. That reminds me to open a bottle of 2005 Javernières soon.
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#80 Post by William Kelley » July 27th, 2019, 8:22 am

Nathan V. wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 8:12 am

So I had a terrible bottle of Dutraive Champagne a few weeks back. Really volatile and ended up being undrinkable for us. Wasn't at all like I remember Dutraive wines of the past. I missed the 2016s but my last visit there tasted the 2014s out of bottle and 2015s out of cask and they were excellent. Really surprised me as this wasn't an off bottle situation but a problem with the wine situation. This passed through the three-tier system directly to me during the fall of last year.

Desvignes doesn't get the love it deserves, IMO. That reminds me to open a bottle of 2005 Javernières soon.
Of the 2017 Champagne? That's surprising. Bottles I had recently in France were terrific. '16s and '17s were a bit up and down because of the hail, but '17 Champagne was my favorite. 2018s are showing nicely, less tannic than 2015.
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#81 Post by Nathan V. » July 27th, 2019, 9:07 am

William Kelley wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 8:22 am
Nathan V. wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 8:12 am

So I had a terrible bottle of Dutraive Champagne a few weeks back. Really volatile and ended up being undrinkable for us. Wasn't at all like I remember Dutraive wines of the past. I missed the 2016s but my last visit there tasted the 2014s out of bottle and 2015s out of cask and they were excellent. Really surprised me as this wasn't an off bottle situation but a problem with the wine situation. This passed through the three-tier system directly to me during the fall of last year.

Desvignes doesn't get the love it deserves, IMO. That reminds me to open a bottle of 2005 Javernières soon.
Of the 2017 Champagne? That's surprising. Bottles I had recently in France were terrific. '16s and '17s were a bit up and down because of the hail, but '17 Champagne was my favorite. 2018s are showing nicely, less tannic than 2015.
I've got a few more bottles so I'll check back. Have your bottles been on the lighter end of the spectrum color wise?
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#82 Post by William Kelley » July 27th, 2019, 10:14 am

Nathan V. wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 9:07 am
William Kelley wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 8:22 am
Nathan V. wrote:
July 27th, 2019, 8:12 am

So I had a terrible bottle of Dutraive Champagne a few weeks back. Really volatile and ended up being undrinkable for us. Wasn't at all like I remember Dutraive wines of the past. I missed the 2016s but my last visit there tasted the 2014s out of bottle and 2015s out of cask and they were excellent. Really surprised me as this wasn't an off bottle situation but a problem with the wine situation. This passed through the three-tier system directly to me during the fall of last year.

Desvignes doesn't get the love it deserves, IMO. That reminds me to open a bottle of 2005 Javernières soon.
Of the 2017 Champagne? That's surprising. Bottles I had recently in France were terrific. '16s and '17s were a bit up and down because of the hail, but '17 Champagne was my favorite. 2018s are showing nicely, less tannic than 2015.
I've got a few more bottles so I'll check back. Have your bottles been on the lighter end of the spectrum color wise?
No, pretty much as I would have expected...
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#83 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » July 28th, 2019, 5:02 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
July 26th, 2019, 7:39 pm
The 2017 Roilette Cuvee Tardive is killer but boy does this wine need time. Lots of time. Glad to have it, hide it for ten years.
I left a 1/3 of the bottle from friday. Wife and I went out last night so forgot about it. Tonight it is more open and pleasing, but damn does it have some structure and tannin. Me likey.

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#84 Post by slada » August 11th, 2019, 7:28 pm

Lapierre morgon 2017 is fantastic too. Sappy strawberry with hint of citrus and spice and just juicy- yum
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#85 Post by Justin S » August 13th, 2019, 11:56 am

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Is a 2017 Château Thivin Côte de Brouilly considered a Cru Beaujolais? I truly don't know the answer. I've had one bottle and thought it was fantastic. I wish I'd bought more.
From early results I have preferred '16s to '17s in Beaujolais, but both are good. I'm hearing lots of hype about '18, but then there was also lots of hype about '15 and to me that vintage was, for the most part, too large-scaled for my tastes.
I'm starting to see pre-arrival orders for '18s. Anyone know if '18 is indeed going to be a vintage like '15 stylistically?
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#86 Post by joz€f p1nxten » August 14th, 2019, 3:39 am

Will visit Roilette and Bouland next week Wednesday - I assume the 2018s will be on show / sale. If anyone is interested, I can pen down some impressions. BTW really easy to get an appointment over there compared to Cote d'Or!
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#87 Post by William Kelley » August 14th, 2019, 4:52 am

Justin S wrote:
August 13th, 2019, 11:56 am
Michae1 P0wers wrote:
January 22nd, 2019, 9:21 am
Brandon R wrote:
January 22nd, 2019, 9:02 am
Is a 2017 Château Thivin Côte de Brouilly considered a Cru Beaujolais? I truly don't know the answer. I've had one bottle and thought it was fantastic. I wish I'd bought more.
From early results I have preferred '16s to '17s in Beaujolais, but both are good. I'm hearing lots of hype about '18, but then there was also lots of hype about '15 and to me that vintage was, for the most part, too large-scaled for my tastes.
I'm starting to see pre-arrival orders for '18s. Anyone know if '18 is indeed going to be a vintage like '15 stylistically?
My report in TWA comes out at the end of the month, but happy to share a few impressions. 2018 was characterized by a wet Spring with above-average rainfall, followed by a very warm, dry summer. Yields were very large. Since a large crop takes longer to ripen than a small one, that helped slow things down, and it may even be the case that high yields actually saved the vintage, avoiding the kind of excesses found in 2015 and 2003. It was not an easy vintage to vinify, with above-average alcohols and below-average acidities, and sugars took a long time to finish fermentation. I heard plenty of horror stories of suck fermentations, volatile acidity and brett. But tasting some 450 wines over the course of ten days in the region, at least among the good producers, I encountered really very few flawed wines. I'm sure there's an element of selection at play, but I was positively surprised. I think the hard-learned lessons of recent warm vintages such as 17, 15, 11, 09 and 03 surely helped.

In style, the 2018s are supple, fruit-driven and voluptuous, without the extremes of concentration of the 2015s, and often with more succulent fruit than that vintage, too, despite their below average acidities. People who love the mouthwatering liveliness and perfume of Gamay will not gravitate towards the vintage, but it's a fleshy, front-loaded, consumer-friendly vintage that will likely win the region new friends even if it doesn't routinely thrill its old ones. Some producers did really well and compare it with 2011 (I'd single out Morgon-based Jean-Marc Burgaud, Daniel Bouland and Louis-Claude Desvinges, though that won't surprise any Beaujolais followers), so these are generalizations. I certainly found plenty to buy for my own cellar: perhaps the Thillardon brothers' best vintage yet, very pretty wines chez Dutraive, etc etc.

The southern Beaujolais was a bit cooler and the limestone soils also help with acid-retention, so it's a good year to look at Brun, Chermette, etc etc. But really, producer is more important than location, and it's hard to think of a year where that isn't the case.
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#88 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 14th, 2019, 6:55 am

Unlike Bordeaux, Napa and Rhône, a bit more ripeness in Chinon and Beaujolais can be nice. While you had to be selective in 2015, as in 2009, there were some major winners. The 2017 vintage, for my palate, has been a hit on every wine that I have tried. Thanks, William, looking forward to trying some 2018s.

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#89 Post by Michae1 P0wers » August 14th, 2019, 9:17 am

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Unlike Bordeaux, Napa and Rhône, a bit more ripeness in Chinon and Beaujolais can be nice. While you had to be selective in 2015, as in 2009, there were some major winners. The 2017 vintage, for my palate, has been a hit on every wine that I have tried. Thanks, William, looking forward to trying some 2018s.
I'd be more inclined to agree with that sentiment for Loire CF (and maybe even N. Rhone) than Beaujolais. For Beaujolais I found a lot of forward, fun wines in '09, and some of those are aging really well too. On theo there hand, in '15 I found mostly dark, overextracted wines bearing little that I look for in Beaujolais. There were exceptions, but very few. So, I think it can be a fine line. I'll be interested to see what '18 has to offer but will continue to buy '16 and '17 with the expectation that '18s could be more miss than hit for my taste.

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Re: 2017 Beaujolais

#90 Post by Justin S » August 14th, 2019, 9:19 am

Thanks William, that is very helpful.
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 6:55 am
Unlike Bordeaux, Napa and Rhône, a bit more ripeness in Chinon and Beaujolais can be nice. While you had to be selective in 2015, as in 2009, there were some major winners. The 2017 vintage, for my palate, has been a hit on every wine that I have tried. Thanks, William, looking forward to trying some 2018s.
I'm a huge fan of the '16 Lapierre Morgon, so when I tried the '17, I felt like it went too far in the candied direction. So much so that after drinking a half case of the '16 (and wishing I had a full case), I stopped at one bottle of the '17. Maybe that is less an issue of the vintage and more of the wine making that year from Lapierre, especially given that I very much enjoyed the '17 Thivin CdB.
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Re: 2017 Beaujolais

#91 Post by Robert.A.Jr. » August 14th, 2019, 9:24 am

Justin S wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 9:19 am
Thanks William, that is very helpful.
Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 6:55 am
Unlike Bordeaux, Napa and Rhône, a bit more ripeness in Chinon and Beaujolais can be nice. While you had to be selective in 2015, as in 2009, there were some major winners. The 2017 vintage, for my palate, has been a hit on every wine that I have tried. Thanks, William, looking forward to trying some 2018s.
I'm a huge fan of the '16 Lapierre Morgon, so when I tried the '17, I felt like it went too far in the candied direction. So much so that after drinking a half case of the '16 (and wishing I had a full case), I stopped at one bottle of the '17. Maybe that is less an issue of the vintage and more of the wine making that year from Lapierre, especially given that I very much enjoyed the '17 Thivin CdB.
I have not tried the 2017 Lapierre, but the 2016 Morgon and the Morgan San Soufre are quite excellent. That 20176 Thivin is smokin.

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Re: 2017 Beaujolais

#92 Post by Lee Short » August 14th, 2019, 6:43 pm

Robert.A.Jr. wrote:
August 14th, 2019, 9:24 am
That 20176 Thivin is smokin.
Yeah, you know how those time portals heat matter up.

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